Christian Nanna

Ex SDA

2010-08-19T13:40:00.002+10:00

EX SDA.

As one of my previous post states that I am a Sabbath keeping Seventh Day Adventist.

I have left that church awhile ago as I was realising more and more how legalistic this church can be, and it was making me feel guilty for enjoying certain aspects of my life....So I left and went to a Baptist Church....I have truly never been happier...there is no pressur, just good company and fellowship.
With my search to find a path to walk with Jesus i have learned so much...especially which doctrines are soul destroying....but I now feel so at home with the Baptist church, I think my search is over.
I know I have never really put anything on this blog about my religion, but for those who have read the previous blogs well I just thought I would rectify my situation.

Other than that, I am still reading Chris Logan and Sheikyermami...as well as the other blogs and newsletters..

I have not been as active here as I would like but there are many reasons for it which I will not go into here, suffice to say, I have had a few months of household renovations happening, been away, and other times not been feeling very well, but that is all over with now, so I do plan on getting back to the swing of things and help in any small way to spread the news of what the muslims are trying to get away with especially here in Oz.

Every day I read more and more of what the muslims are up to here...demanding one thing or another, fighting in the courts to be able to wear a face veil in OUR COURT SYSTEM, coz she wouldn't feel comfortable otherwise...well I don't give a rat's Ar*e, the full face burqa, hijab or whatever they want to call it should be totally bloody-well banned here in Australia.

When are people going to wake up to what they are slowly accomplishing...???? Does the regular Aussie take no notice of what is happening in the UK, USA, , France, Germany, etc etc etc as to what is happening with the muslim population. Religion of peace my backside.

So I have one thing to say to my fellow Aussie....
COME ON AUSSIE COME ON COME ON. Wake up, stand up for our rights.... We are going to the polls on Saturda 21st August.... God help us if Labour gets back in...I usually vote Liberal, but I won't be voting for them either, neither will I give the greens any ticks...I will be voting for the Independents, they are the only chance we have in the Senate.

As there was a bit of sabotage happening with the Registration of THE AUSTRALIA PROTECTION PARTY, which resulted in them not being registered on time for this election, that is why I am voting Independents of Fred Nile....at least he wants to ban the burqa and stop muslim immigration.

I have had it with the darn muslims...taking over complete suburbs, demanding prayer time, when others arent allowed a smoke break...footbaths, muslim only rooms at Uni, expecting us not to eat or drink in public during their ramadama dingdong month while they plot their next terrorist move.... if they don't want to see people eating or drinking in public, then let them saty indoors. I am so sick of them dictating to us what we can do what we should be doing etc.

So that's my 5cents worth for today.

2009-12-08T11:01:00.003+11:00

When reading Chris Logans new style blog today, I was incensed to read that muslims are claiming Jesus was a muslim. I let quite a long response there and I will repeat it here. The reply was to a comment by tyga... I am not disagreeing with him, just adding some facts.

Yes tyga, Jesus was born a Jew and raised a Jew. But he also destroyed the inside of the Jewish Temple because they were selling animals for sacrifice and other goods, thus turning it into a market place. He also left that particular doctrine because the Pharisees and Sadducees make it totally ridiculous with the Sabbath laws and other laws handed down from God His Father. He started His own Church with His Apostles and Disciples, saying, "Where 2 or more are gathered in My name there I will be also". The Sabbath Laws are clear, as is the 10 Commandments written on stone by God's own finger. The explanations and directions for sacrifice and all other laws and the building of the Temple Sanctuary were recorded by Moses. I get so upset when muslims try to profess that Jesus was a muslim. The word muslim came with mohammed when he wanted to change the islamic law according to him, so islam was around then actually. But as for any claims of muslim or islam for that matter of Jesus being of them...PLEASE.... when are these muslims gonna get a life instead of stealing everyone else’s, the koran is a plagiarised book...a copy of the Torah and the New Testament. Every one of the muslim verses and stories can be found in the Bible and the stories of the Prophets and Patriarchs and Kings. I am so over this muslim crap. I have one of them come into our Christian Resource Centre, and I do not trust him at all. I once heard him say, and I quote.."I am a muslim, I was born muslim, I live as a muslim and I will always be a muslim, I will never convert to Christianity". end quote. He has been coming to the centre for around 6 months for one on one Bible study, and he occasionally comes to Sabbath service, and shows the most rude manners during service...eg, going outside for a smoke, playing around on his mobile phone and talking to the person sitting next to him. I have complained about him and I am sure he will be spoken to. I just bet he would not behave like that at his mosque. I also don't think he has been in Australia for that long either, but I am going to have a serious talk to the Pastor and Lay-Pastor about him. I have already raised his behaviour and he will be asked not to be doing that in future. He says, we are all God's children, and we are all one etc, but to me, he sort of protests too loudly if you know what I mean. I would like some verse numbers that show this is deceit to show my pastor, and yes I have a koran but had no time to read thru it, although I tried, but my stomach kept turning. Any ideas anyone??
I have posted some extra info on my blog, about how God punishes even His people, and how He forgives and gives many chances to turn oneself away from sin.
Can the muslims say the same about old mo??
I get really insulted when the muslims say that we all have the one God…we don’t. Jews and Christians have the one God, only the Jews wanted a royal and regal king with all the splendour, and what they got was Jesus…He wasn’t good enough for the Pharisees and Sadducees, as He was a humble Carpenter.

The following is an article that shows that the Bible does not cover up any of the sins by even the OT prophets, but they were rebuked by God for their sins. The same cannot be said for the koran which pains old mo as perfect in life.

Read this article then compare it to the next.
Weekly Feature David knew how to repent
Source: Michael Youssef
King David was a champion for God but he did not live a Teflon lifestyle. The problems, difficulties, and sorrows of life did not slide past him. He lived a difficult, tragic, and lonely life. His was a life of brokenness. Great men and women of God are not great because they escape their problems. They are great because they know how to go to God with their problems in brokenness.
The Bible doesn't sanitize its characters before presenting them to us. They are presented with all of their sin and uncertainty. This is why we are given the brutal truth about David and his life — his sinfulness, his blindness, and the consequences of his sin. Time and again, God forgave David, but He didn't overrule the consequences of David's sin. In many ways, the Bible's 66 chapters about David would make for a wild Hollywood soap opera. Everything is there — murder, adultery, incest. However, there is a difference between David's true-life drama in the Word of God and a Hollywood soap opera. The Bible reveals to us the wages of sin while Hollywood sanitizes, glamorizes, and sugarcoats the consequences of sin. Ignoring God's will may be accompanied by successes in the beginning but give this behavior some time, and the wages of sin will become clear. As the heart hardens, no sermon, no preacher, no friend, and no church will be able to get through to that person until the Spirit of God breaks them. David thought that he had gotten away with his sexual sin with Bathsheba. He didn't understand that God's justice may take a long time but it will always come. The law of God was clear and the punishment for adultery in the Old Testament was stoning. Both the adulterer and the adulteress were to be stoned to death. David tried to escape the law by arranging for Bathsheba's husband, Uriah, to be killed. Months passed and everyone forgot about the sin except for God. Through the prophet Nathan, God brought David under conviction and his response was, "I sinned before God." His response is an indication of the sorrow and grief he had over his sin. Every verse of Psalm 51 shows us the depth of his anguish and the reality of his repentance. David's repentance is the only true and biblical kind of repentance. It was genuine because it was accompanied by a desire to forsake his sin. The consequence of his sin was grave — the death of his son. Still, God forgave David just as He will forgive us when we come to Him in repentance. From cover-to-cover, the Bible gives examples of great men and women of God who exercised genuine repentance — in both word and in deed. Sin is deceptive and its wages are death. God honors true repentance and gives life to those who are broken before Him. Today you can ask the Lord to "Restore unto me the joy my salvation" (Psalm 51:12).
Useful link: www.leadingtheway.org

Then an article by Ron Fraser telling us of islamic activity within our own Country.

Terror Touches Australia From theTrumpet
August 5, 2009 From theTrumpet.com
In the second such incident within the past few years, a terrorist plot is unveiled in Australia. By Ron Fraser

Terrorist activity is not new to Australia’s shores. Forty years ago the Croatian Nazi-linked terror group, the Ustashi, were discovered with well-entrenched training camps in the state of Victoria. These days, Australia is more likely to be affected by terrorism having a very different ideological base to that of the Ustashi. Islamist extremists have penetrated Australia over recent years, threatening the “lucky country” with a level of violence more normally associated with the nations to its north.
This week, the terrorist spotlight was again on Victoria as hundreds of police conducted pre-dawn raids in the state capital of Melbourne, arresting a number of suspected terrorists with Somali-Islamist associations, allegedly engaged in a plot to conduct a suicide mission on one of Australia’s best-known military bases. According to Associated Press, police reported that “Some 400 officers from state and national security services took part in 19 raids on properties in Melbourne, Australia’s second-largest city, before dawn Tuesday, arresting four men and detaining several others for questioning” (August 4).
The Melbourne raid allegedly thwarted the second of two planned attacks exposed in the past few years by Australian authorities. As AP reported, “Seven men were imprisoned in the past year for involvement in a nascent plot to target thousands of spectators in an attack on major sporting events in Australia.”
The most publicized effect of Islamist terrorism on Australian nationals was the attack on a hotel in Bali, Indonesia, in 2002, in which 88 Australians were among the over 200 people killed.
Australia became a target of al Qaeda and associated terror groups due to its support of the United States and its allies in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Under the previous administration of Prime Minister John Howard, Australia was reputed to be America’s staunchest ally. This stance has since been modified under the present Rudd government, as is publicized in Australia’s latest white paper on defense. That paper indicates that Australia will no longer feel bound to support the U.S. in campaigns for which Australians see no direct benefit to their nation.
Fulfilling a campaign promise he made prior to his election as prime minister, Kevin Rudd withdrew Australia’s support of President Bush’s alliance against terror in Iraq by bringing home Australian combat troops from that theater a year ago. The remainder, an Australian training contingent, were withdrawn on July 31 this year.
However, Mr. Rudd, in a direct show of support to the Obama administration, has increased Australia’s contribution to the campaign in Afghanistan. Thus Australia is still a target for extremist Islamist elements intent on wreaking havoc on any perceived ally of America.
In better days there was such a crime against the state known as treason. The penalty for such a crime was death. Having taken Australian citizenship, suspected terrorists such as those currently under arrest in Melbourne would be, upon the evidence being proven, guilty of such a crime. Had we a leadership that would recognize this age-old crime for what it is and exact the penalty, there would be far fewer such cowardly beings lurking in our midst.
Our Creator had a straightforward way of dealing with immigrants in the land of ancient Israel. The abiding law of God was inexorable: “One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you” (Exodus 12:49). Immigrants were to be treated as normal Israelite citizenry on condition that they submitted to the laws, the culture and the religion of the nation.
Oh, for leaders who would have the power and the strength of character to demand such conditions for entry into the lands that so many of the deprived of poorer nations long for, the lands of the Anglo-Saxons! And oh, for leaders who would enforce the invitation to leave on those who wish us evil!
That may sound like a vain hope to any genuine seeker after truth. But believe it or not, such leaders are in the making right now!
Request your own copy, gratis, of our booklet The Wonderful World Tomorrow—What It Will Be Like for the revelation as to how such a leadership is in the very process of preparation to engage in a government that will soon truly bring peace and prosperity to all! •

Featured Comments:
Whatever happened to President Obama’s hand of friendship to the Islamic world? The Islamists are showing their true colours. Witness bloodbaths in Xinjiang, Jakarta, Northern Nigeria and now this plot in Australia. Remember history. In the past Islamic armies swept through much of Europe and South Asia not because of their technology or strength. The superpowers of the time, the Byzantine and Persian Sassanid empires were in a state of moral decay. This contributed to their downfall. It is happening again now. The Anglo-Saxon world has lost its moral/religious compass. Self-indulgence in wickedness is the order of the day. So a twisted ideology like Islamism is moving in like a shark smelling blood!
Peter Thomas—Sarawak/Malaysia

Note this last quote...like sharks smelling the blood and moving in....and people are so blind to the real intentions of muslims, especially the ones who blatantly say they are muslim, always will be and have no intention of ever being anything else, and claim Jesus was a muslim....makes me sick to think of it...and yes, as a Christian, I should be open and tolerant of all people as Jesus taught, but Jesus also taught us to be aware of false prophets in the days to come....which include 500-600 years after His death of the founding of mo's religion...being a muslim in the name of islam.
Jesus died for our sins and with it...with Him being the ultimate sacrifice...He did away with the sacrifice for sins practice, the reason the Jews still kill innocent animals in the fashion of sacrifice is because they do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. Furthermore, Jews believe that by building a new temple in Jerusalem, and the Jews and muslims fighting over the land which is Holy, they believe God will build His new Jerusalem over in Israel. That's why Jews from around the world are flocking there and why all wars are fought over this piece of land. God's new Jerusalem will be in the area of Israel, but it will not be a built-by-men city....It will descend from Heaven after Satan is cast into the fire and the whole earth is vanquished, and repleted with new growth. Prophecy clearly tells of this if it is read all in context and really studied. There will be NO secret rapture either. We are in the last days, we can be sure of that. Everything foretold in Prophecy has all but happened, there are only a couple of events left to happen and it will all be over. Jesus will descend on the clouds with His band of Angels and take up those dead in Christ, then those alive in Christ for the thousand years in Heaven, all others will die in the calamities of weather and earthquakes.. During this time of the thousand years the judgement of the Undead will be taking place. During this time Satan and his evil angels will roam the earth with no-one to tempt or destroy. Then God will bring the new Jerusalem down out of Heaven to rest just above the earth. Then He will raise the dead not in Christ, and this is where satan will once again try to win them over by tempting them with power and glory over God, as he did in Heaven in the first place which caused him to be cast down to earth., they will be led by satan to try and overthrow the new Jerusalem, but of course will fail miserably and then according to their sins and life they will have their punishment meted out. Once this is done and the earth cleansed, the new Jerusalem will descend the rest of the way to the earth, where God will reigb, and there will be no more sin nor temptation.

This is not me making up stories, but it is all told in the Bible and Prophecy....go read it.

2009-12-08T10:56:00.002+11:00

This is the 1st Chapter of a book by Ron Fraser...link in previous post....... I urge you to go to it and read the whole lot...it is not a long book. It can be read on line.

Terror Touches Australia From theTrumpet
August 5, 2009 From theTrumpet.com
In the second such incident within the past few years, a terrorist plot is unveiled in Australia. By Ron Fraser

Terrorist activity is not new to Australia’s shores. Forty years ago the Croatian Nazi-linked terror group, the Ustashi, were discovered with well-entrenched training camps in the state of Victoria. These days, Australia is more likely to be affected by terrorism having a very different ideological base to that of the Ustashi. Islamist extremists have penetrated Australia over recent years, threatening the “lucky country” with a level of violence more normally associated with the nations to its north.
This week, the terrorist spotlight was again on Victoria as hundreds of police conducted pre-dawn raids in the state capital of Melbourne, arresting a number of suspected terrorists with Somali-Islamist associations, allegedly engaged in a plot to conduct a suicide mission on one of Australia’s best-known military bases. According to Associated Press, police reported that “Some 400 officers from state and national security services took part in 19 raids on properties in Melbourne, Australia’s second-largest city, before dawn Tuesday, arresting four men and detaining several others for questioning” (August 4).
The Melbourne raid allegedly thwarted the second of two planned attacks exposed in the past few years by Australian authorities. As AP reported, “Seven men were imprisoned in the past year for involvement in a nascent plot to target thousands of spectators in an attack on major sporting events in Australia.”
The most publicized effect of Islamist terrorism on Australian nationals was the attack on a hotel in Bali, Indonesia, in 2002, in which 88 Australians were among the over 200 people killed.
Australia became a target of al Qaeda and associated terror groups due to its support of the United States and its allies in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Under the previous administration of Prime Minister John Howard, Australia was reputed to be America’s staunchest ally. This stance has since been modified under the present Rudd government, as is publicized in Australia’s latest white paper on defense. That paper indicates that Australia will no longer feel bound to support the U.S. in campaigns for which Australians see no direct benefit to their nation.
Fulfilling a campaign promise he made prior to his election as prime minister, Kevin Rudd withdrew Australia’s support of President Bush’s alliance against terror in Iraq by bringing home Australian combat troops from that theater a year ago. The remainder, an Australian training contingent, were withdrawn on July 31 this year.
However, Mr. Rudd, in a direct show of support to the Obama administration, has increased Australia’s contribution to the campaign in Afghanistan. Thus Australia is still a target for extremist Islamist elements intent on wreaking havoc on any perceived ally of America.
In better days there was such a crime against the state known as treason. The penalty for such a crime was death. Having taken Australian citizenship, suspected terrorists such as those currently under arrest in Melbourne would be, upon the evidence being proven, guilty of such a crime. Had we a leadership that would recognize this age-old crime for what it is and exact the penalty, there would be far fewer such cowardly beings lurking in our midst.
Our Creator had a straightforward way of dealing with immigrants in the land of ancient Israel. The abiding law of God was inexorable: “One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you” (Exodus 12:49). Immigrants were to be treated as normal Israelite citizenry on condition that they submitted to the laws, the culture and the religion of the nation.
Oh, for leaders who would have the power and the strength of character to demand such conditions for entry into the lands that so many of the deprived of poorer nations long for, the lands of the Anglo-Saxons! And oh, for leaders who would enforce the invitation to leave on those who wish us evil!
That may sound like a vain hope to any genuine seeker after truth. But believe it or not, such leaders are in the making right now!
A quote from one of the readers.
Whatever happened to President Obama’s hand of friendship to the Islamic world? The Islamists are showing their true colours. Witness bloodbaths in Xinjiang, Jakarta, Northern Nigeria and now this plot in Australia. Remember history. In the past Islamic armies swept through much of Europe and South Asia not because of their technology or strength. The superpowers of the time, the Byzantine and Persian Sassanid empires were in a state of moral decay. This contributed to their downfall. It is happening again now. The Anglo-Saxon world has lost its moral/religious compass. Self-indulgence in wickedness is the order of the day. So a twisted ideology like Islamism is moving in like a shark smelling blood!

Request your own copy, gratis, of our booklet The Wonderful World Tomorrow—What It Will Be Like for the revelation as to how such a leadership is in the very process of preparation to engage in a government that will soon truly bring peace and prosperity to all! •

Featured Comment:
Whatever happened to President Obama’s hand of friendship to the Islamic world? The Islamists are showing their true colours. Witness bloodbaths in Xinjiang, Jakarta, Northern Nigeria and now this plot in Australia. Remember history. In the past Islamic armies swept through much of Europe and South Asia not because of their technology or strength. The superpowers of the time, the Byzantine and Persian Sassanid empires were in a state of moral decay. This contributed to their downfall. It is happening again now. The Anglo-Saxon world has lost its moral/religious compass. Self-indulgence in wickedness is the order of the day. So a twisted ideology like Islamism is moving in like a shark smelling blood!Peter Thomas—Sarawak/Malaysia

2009-12-08T10:39:00.002+11:00

Well we knew it was coming, but when I saw this my stomach did a few turns. I am a Bible Sabbath keeper, and so are a lot of others, not only my Religious Doctrine (SDA) but a few others like the United Church and the Church of Philadelphia. This is the first step to control everything you do. This will in fact turn into THE MARK OF THE BEAST in Biblical Prophecy. I say this as many people think it's going to be a barcode of sorts, well in a way they are right. I believe it will have to do with an ID card, and this will enable you to buy and sell, and will be attached to a census of types. If you do not tow the line in obeying their laws then you won't be able to buy and sell and you will not be issued any money (the new currency which is already made incidentally) This Sunday law looks all nice and warm and fuzzy feeling, yeah???? Wrong. This will be sold to the people so as they will think the government wants families to spend time together and bring the unruly kids back into line sort of thing, but in reality, it is to control what you do. Make no mistake about it...America has had this law on the books for quite some time, it only needs to be enacted and that will come with the signing of treaties. Australia....now I wonder if we are the same?...have we the law already on the books just not enacted?. If Germany is going to control the world and be the next superpower, and the Pope and his Vatican are the rulers and who pull the strings of the UN then we will have no choice but to enact the laws or there will be sanctions put against us.

The next step will be made law that you will HAVE to go to church on Sunday, then following that, it will come down on the True Sabbath keepers that we will be fined for not going to church on Sunday as proscribed by the law. Next we will be persecuted for keeping the Sabbath.

If you don't already know, it was the RCC who changed the day of Worship to Sunday...it is well documented and they freely admit it.

Have a read of this and note the date. Go to Ron Fraser and it will take you to his many articles and some of them are truly frightening to read. We are not told about these things in the media, and like me reading Chris Logans blog, I wouldn't know half of what's happening in the world. Thanks again Chris....

Germany Reaffirms Sunday Law
December 1, 2009 From theTrumpet.comDec. 1, 2009, marks a historic day in Germany in more ways than one! By Ron Fraser

Coincident with the enacting of the Lisbon Treaty/EU constitution on December 1, Germany’s Constitutional Court has ruled that the nation’s capital must, akin to the rest of the country, abide by the law instituting Sunday as a day “of rest from work and of spiritual improvement” (Deutsche Welle, December 1).
Since the war, Berlin had enacted its own legislation allowing 10 shopping Sundays per year. That local ruling is now quashed. Effective from Jan. 1, 2010, Berlin must fall into line with the law institutionalizing Sunday as a day of rest and religious contemplation as contained in Germany’s Basic Law.
The actual law establishing Sunday as Germany’s weekly day of worship is enshrined in an appendix to the Basic Law under the heading, “Extracts From the German Constitution of Aug. 11, 1919 [Weimar Constitution].” There we find, under the subhead “Religion and Religious Societies,” Article 139, which reads: “Sunday and holidays recognized by the state shall remain protected by law as days of rest from work and of spiritual improvement.”
Though, under that same section, Article 137 (1) states “There shall be no state church,” the effect of the Sunday law is to institutionalize Roman Catholicism and its daughter churches as Germany’s state religion.
Those aware of the history of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation will see this move by Germany’s highest court as one step further toward enforcing Rome’s religion, not only as the state religion on Germany, but on the whole European empire enacted by treaty on this infamous day, Dec. 1, 2009.
The prophecies of Revelation 13 leap into current-day perspective with this latest ruling of Germany’s Constitutional Court. For a clearer understanding of just where this is all leading, read our booklet Who or What Is the Prophetic Beast? •http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6782.5295.0.0

Parliament of world religions.

2009-11-13T18:07:00.004+11:00

PREPARE YESELVES!!!!!

Bit by slow bit, Prophecy is taking place without many people noticing. It is happening in very subtle ways. This posting is one of those many ways.
I have noticed the words lately: NEW WORLD ORDER, have made the headlines.
Religions/doctrines joining up, Laws on the books, but just not yet enacted....only waiting for a signature on a piece of paper and a few more hands to be joined then that law I speak of will be enacted. This is a law that is already on the books in America, along with around 33 others (And I would not be surprised if some of them aren't on the books here). This is a law that says you will worship in a church on a Sunday.
To control chaos you need to create chaos.
And that is exactly what has been happening. Society is going to become so intolerable that Governments will listen to the Roman Catholic Church and force businesses to close on Sunday so the family can spend time together and go to church. Then in time it will go one step further and that is that it will be illegal to worship on the true Sabbath...Saturday. I however, will go to jail before I stop worshipping on the Sabbath, and I will NOT worship on a Sunday.

So many people are under the impression that islam is the anti-christ. Well I have news for you....It is the Roman Catholic Church. Islam is not clever enough or powerful enough to control the world. No matter how much it thinks it is. Those Countries who do not conform to the new laws will have economic sanctions put against them.

Many people believe the "Mark Of The Beast" is a computer chip in the hand or on a National ID card. Nah!!! It will be like a form of a ID card, but it will be tied to you being a good little boy/girl and doing what you are told.

Yes, we have been hoodwinked for many years and it has been a long planned scheme for a New World Order. The United Nations, The Vatican, The International Monetary Fund, the Reserve bank, and a few individuals of whom I will not name at the moment. Also Government powers are all in this. The governments who are not a part of it will comply nevertheless because of the economic sanctions.

Yes, I have been away for awhile. I have been doing some heavy duty study on Prophecy, so you might think I have gone loopy, but no, I haven't. I have had a rude awakening...my eyes opened, the veil lifted, call it what you will, suffice to say, I can see clearly now!!
Society has lost the plot. Doomsdayers will brainwash the masses into believing this Greenhouse effect scam....this has to be one of the biggest hoaxes of all time. Marketing companies are telling people what they can't live without and you must go and buy the biggest and best of a product or your life won't be worth living. Can't afford it....no matter, build up the credit card. There does not seem to be a concept of MANNERS, RESPECT or COURTESY in young people these days. That can be attributed to Freud and Spock and the dogooders who told us mums in the 50's onwards that we had to treat our children with kid gloves and democratise the family...give the kids a choice in everything to do with their life. Look where we are now.... FYI....Freud's theories have all been disproved and indeed discredited today.

Anyway, back to Combined, joined Religious doctrines....
I did not however, think that the following would take place in my hometown, but yes it is.... I will be watching this closely, and I suggest you do the same. Read, watch, listen. Internet blogs are a great place to start. You will find a whole list of very informative links on the right hand side of this page. But if you want to do it the esay way...go get yourself a Bible, and read Revelations. You might need to get some help to get through it, and there are books out there to help you...it is all happening people. Another good source is the writings of Ellen G. White. She knew all this way back in the mid-late 1800's. Her books are very easy to read, and in fact, you will think you are reading the writings of someone in the contemporary circles. I often found myself forgetting I was reading the writings of such a time.
Don't say you were not warned.
BEAUSEANT!!!!!

Gearing up for the Parliament of the Worlds Religions.
8 November 2009

In December the Parliament of the World's Religions is coming to Australia. It's a sort of interfaith Olympics, with thousands of people representing all the worlds myriad religious faiths expected to gather in Melbourne - under the sponsorship of the Victorian Government. In Encounter Nasya Bahfen finds out about the Parliament, and tests her prejudices about the whole interfaith project.

NASYA BAHFEN: Welcome to ABC Radio National's Encounter. In December, the Parliament of the World's Religions is coming to Australia. Thousands of people representing the world's myriad religious faiths will gather in Melbourne - under the sponsorship of the Victorian Government.
I'm Nasya Bahfen and in today's Encounter I'm finding out about the Parliament. I'm also testing my prejudices about the whole interfaith project.
MUSIC:
NASYA BAHFEN: I check my email on my phone to make sure I'm at the right place. The instructions were a tad cryptic. I'm looking for something called the Donkey Wheel, which is apparently just up from the corner of Bourke and Spencer Streets opposite the super tram stop. The email says to come through two large wooden doors on which there are the numbers 673 in black gaffer tape. The building is five story gothic brick, beside a laneway next door to a boarded up pub.
Well there's the laneway, and the boarded up pub. Five story gothic brick building, check. Two large wooden doors with the number 6 7 3 in gaffer tape, check.
ADAM CASS: I think...I think the explosion that this speech is comes from not a place of anger not a place of cynicism but a place of despair. Just because your character's called the doubter doesn't mean that's all he is...
NASYA BAHFEN: Platform Youth Theatre writer Adam Cass is helping Neil Tifford go through a particularly dramatic set of lines. Neil is 21, and he's part of the group's main performance for this year - it's called the Faith Project.
NEIL TIFFORD: I'm playing the doubter.
NASYA BAHFEN: And why is he called the doubter?
NEIL TIFFORD: He's the doubter because he doesn't believe in anything and he finds it really difficult not believing in things and that's mainly what he has to come to grips with in the play - his complete lack of belief.
NASYA BAHFEN: The Faith Project looks at religion, spirituality, diversity and difference. Every week around twenty young people gather to rehearse and practice here at the Donkey Wheel. They represent a range of different beliefs and some - like Neil's character - have no particular set of beliefs. One of his fellow actors is 17 year old Kayla Roberts.
KAYLA ROBERTS: It's been great, 'cause I've gotten to learn sort of what people think of one thing and then there's a complete different opinion from someone else. So it's sort of great to learn of different opinions on one thing.
NASYA BAHFEN: Do you have a religion yourself?
KAYLA ROBERTS: No I don't.
NASYA BAHFEN: The statistics tell us young Australians like Kayla and Neil are increasingly wary of religion. Yet as Neil points out, these guys are voluntarily getting involved in a theatre performance specifically about religion, which will be showcased at the largest interfaith gathering in the world.
NEIL TIFFORD: It's just been really good to confront faith. I mean because we never talk about it really in everyday life. So it was really good to end up in a situation where you had to tackle it head on so I really enjoyed it for that.
NASYA BAHFEN: The Faith Project will be one of the cultural performances at the Parliament of World's Religions - a massive interreligious gathering taking place in Melbourne in December. Organisers are expecting thousands of people to attend the event, which takes place once every five years - a sort of interfaith Olympics if you like.
Actually, I'm tempted to call it an interfaith talkfest. I'm a practising Muslim with reservations about interfaith dialogue. Sure, it's great to get people around the table - or around a theatre or stage - and connect, by tackling issues of faith and spirituality. It's also comforting to know that there are people of other religious groups who aren't out to demonise or distance themselves from my own. That's why I felt privileged to be asked to take part in the Parliament, chairing panels on Islamic finance and Islamaphobia in the media, and also being a panellist for the Parliament's Youth Committee's session on the media and faith. But my main gripe with interfaith? It's preaching to the choir.
This is a criticism heard often by Reverend Dirk Ficca, the Executive Director of the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions. Reverend Ficca is based in the US city of Chicago, where the Parliament history began with its first meeting, 116 years ago. Every few months, for the past year, he's been heading to Melbourne to see how preparations are going. Reverend Ficca says he's often had to respond to allegations that events like the Parliament preach to the choir.
DIRK FICCA: There are people of every tradition who are inclined to work with people of other traditions and they don't know each other yet. So if the Parliament event is simply getting the choir together I think it's a plus. It gets more people across religious and cultural lines working together. You have then trusted partners that when your communities - there may be some tension or conflict; there are those within each community who know each other and trust each other. I can't see that as a bad thing.
NASYA BAHFEN: Well, to be honest, neither do I. I'm sceptical about what interfaith can achieve - sceptical, but not cynical. Sure, it preaches to the converted - but so do churches, mosques, synagogues, and temples. All the time. These religious institutions fulfil other purposes - providing comfort, guidance and community. They help people keep in touch with God or whatever happens to be their spiritual path. Maybe people like me who are critical of interfaith on the grounds that it preaches to the converted are missing the point. The goal of interfaith isn't to change minds, to proselytize or to convince the doubters. Reverend Ficca, who happens to be a Presbyterian minister, acknowledges that just as most religions have supporters of interfaith dialogue, there are also members of those religions who are firmly against it.
DIRK FICCA: There are people perhaps at the other end of the spectrum who are never going to be comfortable with religious diversity. I'm not going to demonise those people and I'm going to respect how they want to express their religious identity. And we will welcome them at the Parliament. But the group I am most interested in is the group in the middle that doesn't know what they think yet. I want to bring together those who are like minded, I want to respect those who don't want to come, but then I want to help those who don't know yet become comfortable with that.
NASYA BAHFEN: So while interfaith dialogue may have these noble aims, it can get bogged down by problems that sometimes have nothing to do with faith per se. Jewish community activist Manny Waks has come across people within his own religious group, who criticise his involvement in interfaith events like the Parliament of the World's Religions. It's a criticism he says he understands. Manny was asked to share his experience with faith, at the Parliament - and to reflect on his background as someone who came from quite a strict religious background, and only to move away from the more orthodox aspect of that faith.
MANNY WAKS: Not to follow in the strict religious tradition of my parents - that was growing up in an ultra orthodox Hasidic environment and instead shaping my religion into a form that works for me. I've gone through different stages and at one stage I was extremely anti-religious even, especially anti ultra-Orthodox. But I do feel that in the last few years I have found my comfort zone in terms of the way I practise religion as a secular Zionist Jew and of course that terminology is very complex and controversial. But plainly speaking I am a secular person but I do believe that Israel is a Jewish homeland - the homeland for the Jews. And of course that does not mean that the Palestinians don't deserve a homeland. And of course a Jew for me is being born as a Jew and recognising myself as a Jew.
NASYA BAHFEN: Wow, lots of complex meanings there. Manny says he's come across people who he doesn't believe are inherently anti-Semitic, but they use anti-Semitic phrases as part of the discourse on interfaith dialogue. He says that inevitably his conversations with Muslims end up on the issue of the Middle East. He told me he thinks it's possible to be engaged in interfaith dialogue, while supporting both Israelis and Palestinians.
MANNY WAKS: We must define what does it mean to be pro Palestinian and what does it mean to be pro Israeli? Are we talking about simply pro Palestinian in that the Palestinians deserve a land of their own, the right to self determination and believing in the two state solution? I think most Israelis and many Jews that I know would agree with that concept. Am I pro Palestinian? It just depends on where exactly you draw the line.
NASYA BAHFEN: For Manny, a Jewish Australian who is a fervent supporter of Israel, that line is crossed when Israel's actions are compared to the Holocaust - a time when Jews faced extreme suffering. For me, a Muslim Australian who grew up in solidarity with Palestinian suffering under Israeli occupation, it was unusual to hear how hurtful it was from a Jewish perspective, to describe Israel's actions in the same language used for the Nazis. Manny's views, I suspect, on the Middle East conflict are in complete contrast to my own. But my conversation with him did teach me one thing: for some Jewish Australians as much as for some Muslim Australians, the Middle East conflict is so ingrained in our consciousness that it has a determinant quality - where we stand on it, and how we view it, defines our limits and our boundaries when it comes to talking to and about the Other. This made me wonder if interreligious dialogue, particularly between Muslims and Jews, could ever move beyond the politics in Ramallah and Gaza, or Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, even if that dialogue was taking place in Melbourne. Manny doesn't see this as a bad thing. He believes there is room for interfaith dialogue to expand beyond the religious aspects of discussion, to address the tensions that exist between faith groups.
MANNY WAKS: Interfaith dialogue morphs into more intercultural dialogue. For me personally I do step outside the strictly religious issues and focus much more, especially with my Islamic colleagues, on the issue of culture, politics...There is no point sitting and talking about the fact that we're all from the same Abrahamic faiths and we should all get along. I'm not interested in going down that path. Let's deal with the current issues.
NASYA BAHFEN: Well, those issues are certainly topical for a lot of people. I'm on the set of an ABC TV comedy show in which Nazeem Hussain has a starring role. Nazeem is a law graduate and comedian, and he'll be speaking at one of the Youth sessions of the Parliament. In between takes, we talk about how the Middle East dominates dialogue between Muslims and Jews.
NAZEEM HUSSAIN: Israel, Palestine - that region is very significant and sacred to both Muslims and Jews. And I guess it is a difference, you know, that we probably do need to focus on to a degree but I think at times can really detract from the beauty and the benefit that interfaith dialogue can bring. In fact someone once said to me, "I don't really believe in interfaith dialogue, I believe in dialogue between the faithful" - and I can see where he's coming from. I think often it's more a case of seeing two groups of people sit together and talk and discuss issues - broader issues - who would probably not come together and talk about anything, you know, normally. Learning about how to approach difference - that's important and that's certainly the case with Israel Palestine.
NASYA BAHFEN: Nazeem has been heavily involved with interfaith dialogue as a member of the Islamic Council of Victoria. Thinking ahead to the Parliament, I wonder if any of the interfaith experiences he's had have been negative, instead of positive. I ask him if he's ever felt constrained by participating in such dialogue.
NAZEEM HUSSAIN: Yeah I feel sometimes that with interfaith dialogue we're often striving to find commonalities even where they sometimes don't exist and we're not so happy to embrace and discuss the differences. And I think that's where tensions and conflicts arise where we're actually scared of discussing differences and confronting them and really being comfortable with difference. I actually think that communities that are united in a way are communities that actually appreciate and understand difference in all its complexities.
NASYA BAHFEN: The intermingling of faith, culture and politics is something that resonates with 24 year old Michael Korman. He's one of the Jewish members of the Parliament's Youth Committee.
MICHAEL KORMAN: The thing that I find happens most when it comes to interreligious dialogue, being Jewish, is Israel. There's often a linkage in people's minds that being Jewish I completely support all the policies of Israel...and I feel it's important for people to distinguish between the Jewish religion and the state of Israel because otherwise it often leads to people implanting Israel's political policies onto you and that can lead to some interesting conversations.
NASYA BAHFEN: That's Michael Korman from the Parliament's Youth Committee and he'll be facilitating one of the Parliament's key youth events - a session on the Australian Football League's 2009 Peace Team, involving thirty young Israeli and Palestinian men. Tonight, he's joining twelve other youth committee members for a meeting I'm sitting in on. One of the Muslim youth committee members is journalism student Hella Ibrahim, who warns against having too many role plays.
HELLA IBRAHIM: Maybe for a younger age bracket - yeah, role plays. But there's only so many of them you can do before people just go...
GEMMA MCDONALD: I'll put "no role plays".
HELLA IBRAHIM: That's not what I'm saying - I'm saying have a role play, just not...
MICHAEL KORMAN: Just not fifteen.
NASYA BAHFEN: Although it doesn't seem like much is getting done - apart from discussing the relative merits of role plays - the youth committee members are brought back on track by Gemma McDonald, the Parliament's Youth Community Organiser. By the end of the night they've managed to knock down the format of the media session - coincidentally that's the one I'm speaking at, in my role as journalism lecturer at RMIT, and an ABC radio journalist. This is a little weird because right now I'm wearing my reporter hat, and observing the meeting, which is discussing a session at which I'll be speaking while wearing my academic hat. It gets weirder when I inadvertently get caught up in the planning process and am asked for suggestions. I tactfully avoid the issue of role plays and stumble my way through suggesting a scenario I've often used with my own students.
NASYA BAHFEN: I know some people are not too keen on role plays, I've got a suggestion for a quick sort of role play. Think of an issue covered by the media which has religious connotations for example you might pretend to have the head of a sporting association a netball association for example deciding that uhm girls with headscarves are not allowed to play in the league. I'm thinking of a specifically Muslim example but you can have different ones. You can have one related that might conjure up maybe anti-Semitic coverage, that kind of thing. And then if you could hold within each group maybe a mock press conference and then ask somebody to be the spokesperson and the others to pretend to be journalists. What questions would you in your role as fake journalists - what would you ask the person? How would you cover that story?
NASYA BAHFEN: After the meeting is over I catch up with Azmeena Hussain, a Muslim member of the Youth Committee and one of the Parliament's youth patrons. If you hop onto Youtube there's a video invitation to the event for Melbourne 2009.
PARLIAMENT VIDEO INVITATION: We can all work together for peace and justice, we can end poverty, we can bring peace to the world, the indigenous people of the world deserve respect, make a world of difference, hearing each other, healing the earth, Parliament of World's Religions 2009 - be there.
NASYA BAHFEN: Azmeena is the voice at the end of that video. She's an active member of the Muslim community in Melbourne, which is pretty small, so I've already known her prior to the Parliament. And she's a little less sceptical than I am about what might come out of an event like this. But then again, she's ten years younger than I am. At twenty two, Azmeena can take that optimism and run with it.
AZMEENA HUSSAIN: Initially I think there were a lot of different faiths even in the youth committee and I was even thinking how will we all get along? I found that through understanding and even through humour, of sharing our experiences we've all realised how similar we all are. And, um, initially there might have been those differences but through communication and through humour and working together we've already even just in the youth committee itself we've achieved a lot. So, really looking forward to what the Parliament can achieve.
NASYA BAHFEN: She isn't the only one. Every member of the Parliament's youth committee is excited about the event - perhaps they haven't critically thought about the chances of the Parliament producing a concrete legacy. Again, I could attribute this excitement to their youth and idealism. Or perhaps they have thought about it, and still see value in participating -value that's abstract. For example, a running theme expressed by the youth committee members was realising how much they shared. Twenty five year old Jewish Australian Alanna Bruce says she's found some common ground with non-Jews.
ALANNA BRUCE: Being a religious person and dealing with a secular identity, living in a secular world. I think there are similar issues as young people. Gender and sexuality is an issue that I'm very interested in and I think you know that's similar. I know I've spoken about that to some of my Muslim female friends in the Parliament.
NASYA BAHFEN: Twenty six year old Sharon Cluster is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, also known as the Mormons. I ask her if she's come across any prejudices about Mormons.
SHARON CLUSTER: We've been able to break down some of those barriers through the discussions that we've had in our youth committee groups which have been the same for all of us really - we've all had misunderstandings and stereotypes that we've been associated with.
NASYA BAHFEN: Remember Michael Korman? He's the 24 year old Jewish member of the Youth Committee I spoke to earlier, who's facilitating the session on how the AFL brought a team of Palestinian and Israeli young men together. He added his own experience - an experience which I know would resonate with many people.
MICHAEL KORMAN: In terms of the religion itself most people think that Jewish people particularly Jewish men will wear a kippah, which is you know the black cloth on the head, and will have beards and wear black clothing. And they find I look like what you call an everyday person of Australia they ask "are you sure you're Jewish" and I'm like I'm pretty sure about that.
NASYA BAHFEN: For Lina Magh, the misconceptions aren't about the stereotypes people have of her religion. The twenty year old is from the Baha'i community, and she says it gets a lot of interest because not many people know about it.
LINA MAGH: The Baha'i faith is a very young faith and about 166 years old. People tend to be more interested because they've never heard of it before more than anything. We're quite lucky in that aspect. We have - we are persecuted in our homeland in Iran but this persecution hasn't spread anywhere else.
NASYA BAHFEN: And then there are those who don't actually practise a faith. Laura John is 19 and was raised Catholic, but she describes herself as a spiritual person. Despite not belonging to one of the major established religions, she says she still gets a lot out of her involvement with the Parliament of the World's Religions youth committee.
LAURA JOHN: Personal networking, meeting a lot of people from different faith traditions that I wouldn't normally interact with just on a day to day basis, but more than that. Also, facilitating networking and discussion amongst young people so it'll be really great to see all the people coming from overseas as well as the people within Australia and just getting them together and really facilitating a great discussion. I think the hardest thing is just explaining it to people because I wouldn't call myself atheist or agnostic but I don't identify with a particular faith. I think I'm sort of going with more I'm a spiritual person I take a lot from a variety of religions so I think at the core I'm very similar to a lot of people on the youth committee. It's just the label that's different.
NASYA BAHFEN: I'm Nasya Bahfen and you're with Encounter on Radio National abc.net.au We're finding out about the Parliament of the World's Religions coming to Melbourne this December.
I'm curious about the involvement of people with no faith - in what is, essentially, a religious event. The interfaith movement in Australia - on the surface, anyway - appears to have been dominated by established or widely practiced religions -the Abrahamic faiths, or the Sikh and Hindu religions, as well as the Baha'is, whose faith is relatively new, but who are extremely active in interfaith. When you think of interfaith you tend to think major religions - Muslims, Christians and Jews, for example, so back at the Donkey Wheel, I sit down for a chat to Lewis Allen, a 25 year old member of the Platform Youth Theatre. He gives me an insight into his faith community which is certainly not one that I as a Muslim Australian have ever had much to do with or think about.
LEWIS ALLEN: My parents aren't particularly religious people but I went to a Catholic school simply because I was being bullied at the one I went to previously. I sort of left that faith behind when I left the school behind and travelled on for some time without much connection to anything of the sort. But when my best friend started getting into the occult I thought oh yeah. So I've maintained a bit of interest in it but never really practiced it until I read a particular book by a man named Alistair Crowley and suddenly it all made sense and that's what really started me down my path and got me interested in the esoteric.
NASYA BAHFEN: Lewis and I are talking in the building where the theatre group meets. It's the one that was a little difficult to find - near the corner of Bourke and Spencer streets, gaffer tape on the door - and inside it's like an unfinished warehouse. Our conversation wakes up a young man sleeping on a couch nearby. His name is Ezra Cohen, he's 24, and this is the first time he's ever done any theatre. I ask him how he's finding the experience.
EZRA COHEN: Very fun.
NASYA BAHFEN: Sounds like you expected it to be serious.
EZRA COHEN: Yeah, yeah. No, I enjoy talking to people about religion and faith and things but yeah I really enjoy the theatre. I play the liar, my character always lies. He's the narrator together with the Truth teller, who always tells the truth, and he's basically trying to get a kick out of the audience.
NASYA BAHFEN: Ezra is, for want of a better description, the most secular Jew I spoke to while putting together this episode of Encounter. Like a couple of the other young actors exploring religion and diversity through the Platform Youth Theatre, and like the young people with no specific faith but who are involved in the Parliament of the World's Religions, Ezra is a little bit blasé about organised religion.
EZRA COHEN: It's not in the play anymore but in one of the earlier scripts there was a line - what is - what is delicious for some is poison for others. And that describes my view of religion in general and I think a lot of Jewish people feel that same way because Judaism isn't a universal religion like Christianity or Islam. And I felt I wanted to say that and also my character the Liar he also goes on about this hostility a lot of people have towards religion. They feel like religion is the source of all the world's ills and I feel that's also my feeling too.
NASYA BAHFEN: Despite being somewhat sceptical about religion, Ezra chose not to perform on Friday and Saturday night for the purposes of observing the Jewish Sabbath. He says the organisers were very accepting of this choice. Lewis, the young Occultist, has also found in the theatre group a welcoming environment.
LEWIS ALLEN: We have people from many different faith traditions involved in this show. We have people who are Christian, we have Jews, and we have Occultists, people from the Muslim faith. So we've got a lot of people coming together and just working in that spirit of human love to create something that's grander than us. So I think it says a lot about what we can do together and the fact that it doesn't matter that we may perceive things differently in some ways. More broadly we have a united understanding of our humanity and what we can do for each other rather than against each other.
NASYA BAHFEN: That was Lewis Allen from the Platform Youth Theatre in Melbourne. And in a way Lewis reminds me of Laura, the Parliament youth committee member who described herself as a spiritual person. Both saw Catholicism play a part in their lives at one stage, for different reasons, and had moved away from it. Now I've travelled across town to Richmond, to find Madeleine Marson, a young woman for whom Catholicism is still very much a part of her life. She's one of the Catholic delegates at the Parliament.
MADELEINE MARSON: I'm a theology undergraduate student. I'm at the Melbourne College of Divinity. I'd been studying a lot about my Christian faith and I thought well where can I get more experience - more life experience and kind of more experience of the world, and the place of Catholicism in it? So I was invited to participate in a fellowship for young Catholic women run by the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference and the Office for the Participation of Women in the Catholic Church. And to me, that's a really wonderful way to engage young women in the life of the Church through what I feel is a really important mission of the Church in interfaith dialogue. So for me that experience over five months in Canberra was really about where interreligious dialogue fits for the Catholic mission in the Church - it's not something that's superfluous or on the edges, it's something that's real and very tangible and important for Catholics. So that's really where my inspiration to attend the Parliament comes from.
NASYA BAHFEN: I know that the Quran teaches me that it's actually part of Islam to reach out and speak to people of different - I think the phrase is "nations and tribes so that you may know one another". Can you tell us a little bit about what you know of the theological perspective on interfaith?
MADELEINE MARSON: The theological perspective on interfaith for Catholic Christians really stems from the Second Vatican Council and one particular document called Nostra Aetate, which began to deal with the question of Christianity's relationship with Judaism but then broadened out to really encompass the mainstream religions and some Eastern religions as well. And that foundation in 1965 acknowledged that there was a ray of truth in each of those religions with a particular focus on Judaism and Islam, so since then the Church particularly through the great work of John Paul the Second has really moved forward in its understanding of interfaith dialogue with many different documents over the years and many I suppose milestones in John Paul visiting a synagogue, acknowledging indigenous peoples throughout the world and many milestones such as that.
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DIRK FICCA: Yeah, we're on the second floor of the hub and we're looking at - what, 15 to 20 workstations here. Increasingly there have been more and more people as the weeks go by. When I arrived from Chicago a couple of days ago on a Monday every seat in here was taken up.
NASYA BAHFEN: Reverend Dirk Ficca, the head of the Council of a Parliament of the World's Religions, is showing me the hub - a strange little office building in Melbourne's Docklands. It's on a road called Waterview Walk, and along one side of the road is a series of office buildings and cafes. But the hub is on the other side of the road, on its own, in the middle of a large nature strip. It's meant I suppose to introduce some notion of community into this brand new section of Melbourne which is filled with offices, apartments and retail complexes - and which hasn't grown up with synagogues and churches and mosques and temples. The Hub was donated by the City of Melbourne, as part of their support for the Parliament of the World's Religions. It's the event's central command if you like - the place where all the youth committee members gathered for their meeting the other night, and where the Parliament staff and volunteers work. Right now, in the early morning, the hub is filled with young and middle aged men and women, talking, tapping at keyboards and speaking into telephones. Reverend Ficca tells me about the history of the Parliament.
DIRK FICCA: In 1893 in Chicago there was a World's Fair - the World Columbian Exposition. Twenty million people came to Chicago that year for this world's fair and as a part of that there was a first ever world's parliament of religions. It was organised by local Catholic Protestant and Jewish leaders in Chicago and they sent 4 thousand letters around the world inviting religious leaders, scholars, activists to come to Chicago. The event began on September 11th of 1893, it lasted 17 days and about 400 religious leaders came to present either about their religion or about the role of religion in the world.
NASYA BAHFEN: There's that day that's become so significant for religion. Reverend Ficca tells me that first Parliament of the World's Religions was significant in a number of ways. It was possibly the first time that people in the United States had come across representatives of Eastern spiritual traditions such as Hinduism. It also represented a couple of other milestones.
DIRK FICCA: This was the first time in history that there was this kind of formal inter religious dialogue. Many people trace the study of comparative religion to this event. It marked a number of firsts in American religious life - the inclusion of African Americans in an event like this was quite progressive at that time. Ten per cent of the presenters were women. Most people look back to this event as the beginning of the modern inter religious movement.
NASYA BAHFEN: I wonder if the name of the event is linked to the whole issue of what interfaith dialogue can achieve. Certainly, it's one of the things listed on the FAQs or frequently asked questions section, of the parliament's website. The word Parliament conjures images of a British chamber, elected members, and lawmaking. But the Parliament is more like a gathering, instead of a body that passes bills or resolutions. Reverend Ficca explains the historical context of the name.
DIRK FICCA: Now the word Parliament - we've kind of been stuck with that word because of our historical tie to this event. For many people it has a political and legislative meaning and every month or so we think about changing it but there's some history there. We hearken back to the more ancient meaning of the word which is a safe place for civil discourse, not a legislative body. So the Parliament of the World's Religions is not a membership organisation, it's not a legislative body, but we hope it's a safe place for civil discourse.
NASYA BAHFEN: Another criticism that is often levelled at interfaith or interreligious dialogue is that such dialogue doesn't achieve anything concrete, and Reverend Ficca is realistic about what an event like this can achieve.
DIRK FICCA: People have asked me what can the interreligious movement do about terrorism for instance. And in terms of the next terrorist attack somewhere in the world probably not much. In that terrorism is born of deep seated misunderstanding and often harsh conditions that people are living under, maybe the interreligious movement can seek to overcome that or make a contribution to the articulation of that over the long haul, so that's a long term project.
NASYA BAHFEN: Manny Waks is the Jewish community activist I spoke to earlier. He'll be one of the speakers for the Parliament's youth program, and hopes the experience encourages young people to get a deeper sense of their religious identity.
MANNY WAKS: I really hope the event empowers the youth to retain and cherish their religious identity. From the way I see it it's a major component of who we are. And in my opinion it does not necessarily mean that one has to practice their religion in one way or another because that is subjective as we've seen. It's more about being conscious of it, of your religion, and making it a part of your identity.
NASYA BAHFEN: What the Parliament might mean for young people is also on the mind of Catholic delegate Madeleine Marson.
MADELEINE MARSON: I'm attending the Parliament as a delegate from a Catholic religious women's community, the Faithful Companions of Jesus, and they ran the school that I went to and I was invited to participate for them and help their school students to understand what the Parliament is, and why it is important, and encourage their involvement in the Parliament. So on that level I am very interested in engaging young people. I think it's a wonderful opportunity for young people to become involved in the cultural and religious life of Melbourne and to experience the rich diversity but I think personally I'm very interested to experience ideas and approaches to prayer, reflection, theology and how different religions live their religions. So it's a bit of a personal quest for me which I hope will be definitely spirit filled, as we often say, and also one that I'll get to encounter a lot of the theological arguments and discussions. So I'm very excited.
MUSIC: Trailer from New Muslim Cool
NASYA BAHFEN: New Muslim Cool - a film about a Puerto Rican rapper and drug dealer who left gangster life and found solace in Islam. It's one of the movies that'll be screened as part of the Parliament, where Islam is a major focus of the program. The Parliament program has an entire section devoted to Islam. I shouldn't be surprised at this, because it reflects the geopolitical reality of a post-September 11 world - a reality that's paradigm-shifting, which sounds like such a cliché, but a very real one. I was in my early twenties when September 11 took place - the same age that people like Ezra, Lewis, and Azmeena are now. But the way September 11 was covered and reported - and I'm wearing my journalism lecturer hat again now - I feel that mediation or coverage was so pervasive that it's incredibly difficult to remember what the pre-September 11 world was like - to remember how conversations went, about interfaith dialogue and where Islam fit into the world. The program for the Parliament says that "At the heart of Islam's social conscience is a shared concern for a just, peaceful and sustainable world. The Holy Qur'an repeatedly calls on Muslims to provide for the poor; to respect nature's relationship to humanity; and to come together with diverse peoples to learn from one another."
As a practising Muslim, I know all of that. But does anyone else outside of my religion? Do rightwing crazies who set up rabid ignorant anti-Islamic websites know, or care about those teachings? And while I've got my journalism academic hat on - I accept that the media is a source of information for the majority of people. For that reason, I tend to agree that most non-Muslims are ignorant about Islam because of the absolutist way the religion and its followers are portrayed (and of course, sometimes because of the absolutist way it's practiced). But when talking to people about my religion - which is something you can't escape when you wear a headscarf and you're living in Australia in the 21st century - I've often been surprised by how much some non-Muslims really do know about Islam. The Parliament's executive director, Reverend Dirk Ficca, gives me one of those, "hey" moments.
DIRK FICCA: If I were to turn over the managing of world stability and peace to one faith group, as a Christian I'd turn it over to the Muslims. I believe first of all as a tradition Islam has wrestled with the shadow side of human nature and of religion. However people feel it incorporates the just war ideas, it's done it in an intentional way. But I have found 99.9 per cent of Muslims are the most morally disciplined peace loving people I've ever met. And it's a shame that the acts of a few colour the beauty and the spiritual depth of this growing community around the world.
NASYA BAHFEN: Reverend Ficca is fully aware of the dangers of evaluating Islam not through its values but through the lens of a violent minority. He cites a very recent example.
DIRK FICCA: Other forces in the world use that stereotype of Islam to justify their own acts. So this is not only a concern for the Islamic community but the way this plays into the dynamic of the whole world is quite terrifying. A former president in my country in the few days after Sep 11 used the word Crusades. He backed off of it but the damage was done. And the ways in which after the Cold War people have now pushed Islam into that enemy category I think is devastating. And I'm terrified really that if we don't change the balance here that this could lead to catastrophe for the whole world.
NASYA BAHFEN: As a member of the Islamic Council of Victoria and a young Australian Muslim, Nazeem Hussain has experienced how his religion is under the spotlight.
NAZEEM HUSSEIN: I think Islam and Muslims in Australia are much more under the spotlight and every Muslim is seen as some sort of ambassador for their faith.
NASYA BAHFEN: In a way, Nazeem's account of how he practises his faith reminds me of the other stories I've heard. Parliament Youth Committee member Laura John, moved away from the Catholicism she was raised with. Jewish Australian Manny Waks sees himself as more secular than his Orthodox parents. I ask Nazeem to contrast his practice of Islam, here in Australia, with previous generations.
NAZEEM HUSSEIN: I guess my parents in Sri Lanka their faith was never really questioned, the way Islam has been questioned with me. So I think growing up as a Muslim in Australia you're sort of in a way forced to confront real issues facing Islam or real issues that Islam proposes to Australian life and culture. So you've really had to question your identity and really form a very kind of principled understanding of who you are. And so I guess being a Muslim in Australia is a very different experience to being say a Christian or a Jewish person or a Buddhist in Australia, because in my opinion those faiths just aren't scrutinised and, you know, they're not at the centre of public conversation.
NASYA BAHFEN: Even the Parliament puts a lot of emphasis on Islam, with large sections of its programming devoted to the Muslim faith.
MANGALAM VASAN: Everybody kept talking about how Islam has got a very prominent role in the Parliament and it's even got an extra session put to it. Something like Islam at the Parliament, something like that.
NASYA BAHFEN: But that's not something that worries Mangalam Vasan.
MANGALAM VASAN: As long as all the religions are represented and they can say whatever they want to say, I think that's OK. I'm a volunteer at the Parliament. At the moment they call me a micro media assistant which means that I publicise the parliament in my local community, so that's like the Tamil Hindu community. So I go around writing in the temple newsletters all those sort of things. We went for volunteer training as well so at the time of the Parliament, from the third to the ninth we are supposed to be fully charged waiting to serve and do whatever they ask of us. So that's one role. And the other role is I submitted a program proposal for a paper and the paper has been accepted. So I'm a presenter as well as a volunteer.
NASYA BAHFEN: There are at least nine faith traditions involved in the Parliament - I haven't even scratched the surface in terms of the many voices involved. So I spoke to Mangalam to get her perspective on the role of interfaith dialogue according to the Hindu tradition.
MANGALAM VASAN: As long as all the religions are represented and they have - they can say whatever they want to say I think that's okay. I recently had a bit of an argument - whether Bollywood represented Hinduism. So I said I strongly protested against you know underclad women dancing, and saying that it's Hinduism, so that's one of the things.
NASYA BAHFEN: I'm not too familiar with Hindu teachings on interfaith dialogue.
MANGALAM VASAN: I think Hinduism is like very much...we don't have any sort of bias against other religions or anything like that because most of our teachings say all religions are acceptable. And I mean our Gods are supposed to have said there are many paths to the God or Gods or whatever you can say, or the Supreme Reality - whatever you would like to call it. So we are not very rigid as to the path. I think it's a flexible religion which accepts all other religions. I think interfaith would go very well with Hinduism because we don't have any problem accepting other religions.
MUSIC:
NASYA BAHFEN: Through my preparations for this program, I've come across different views about the value of interfaith dialogue. Some of the phrases used in my conversations with people involved with the event come up again and again - preaching to the choir, better to engage than not, and finding common ground.
19 year old Eleanor is one of the members of the Platform Youth Theatre. She was the most reluctant to talk. But when she did, she said something that blew me away with its simplicity.
ELEANOR: My character mostly feels good about herself through helping other people. It's almost like an addiction she has to help people in order to feel better about herself. Yeah it's been a very different experience to work with people from all different backgrounds and stuff, and you just learn more about yourself and other people.
NASYA BAHFEN: I still think that there are dangers with interfaith dialogue - the pressure to conform or bend your beliefs to accommodate other faiths, for example - but my two main areas of distrust with interfaith in general, and with this particular event in particular, have gone some way to being addressed. Yes, interfaith dialogue preaches to the converted, and no, it doesn't achieve quick concrete aims. But it's more about the long term goals, and learning about yourself and other people - something that, in the post September 11 world, isn't that easy to dismiss.
MUSIC:
NASYA BAHFEN: This has been Encounter. Thanks to all the participants for their contributions and best of luck for the event. You can find out more about the forthcoming Parliament of the World's Religions by checking out the Encounter webpage: go to abc.net.au/rn and click on Encounter. You'll find a transcript of this program and links to information about the Parliament. It's still possible to register - and Radio National abc.net.au will be there and blogging live from the Parliament! Technical production was by Carey Dell and the program was written and produced by me, Nasya Bahfen.
Guests
Reverend Dirk Ficca, Director, Council for the Parliament of the World's Religions
Platform Youth Theatre:Writer: Adam CassActors: Neil Tifford, Kayla Roberts, Lewis Allen, Ezra Cohen
Speakers/delegates at the Parliament:Manny Waks, founder, Capital Jewish ForumNazeem Hussain, director, Islamic Council of VictoriaMadeleine Marson, Catholic delegate, Archdiocese of MelbourneMangalam Vasan, Tamil Hindu community presenter
Parliament of the World's Religions Youth CommitteeYouth Community Organiser: Gemma McDonaldMembers: Michael Korman, Hella Ibrahim, Azmeena Hussain, Alanna Bruce, Sharon Cluster, Lina Magh, Laura John
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Islam In Action: Jihadist Urges Muslims to Cannibalize US Soldiers

2009-06-28T13:51:00.000+10:00

Islam In Action: Jihadist Urges Muslims to Cannibalize US Soldiers

This is just one more sick thing to add to the long list of what these bastards are prepared to do. And civilised people have to bend over backward to appease them, sending them to other countries, which I believe Australia said NO or sending them to island resorts instead of gitmo, even when they get a hold of a soldier as hostage or some civilian to publicly behead them, and their vicious vitriol against anyone not of their islamic cult. The death penalty should be brought back for this scum or held as prisoner of war until the war is over, and not in mainstream prisons where they get a chance to suck in others to the jihadist cause.
As a Christian I try so hard to forgive their sins and try to understand they are humans too, and if I want my sins forgiven then I must forgive others their sin as instructed by the Bible, but I am sorry, I can't even begin to understand these people let alone forgive them...maybe God can, but I can't.

Even our (Australian) weak govt, is amending laws for ARSON etc, yet they will not mention the fact that there is a jihad by arson and jihad by economics component in all of this even tho we have had direct warnings from islamists...like Sept 2008..

I don't often vent my anger or feelings in comment form, but this is just too far gone...we all need to be yelling at our respective government leaders.
I did have one small success...I sent some sharia finance in Australia with the NABank info to my sister, and I actually got a positive response for once. I have severed my accounts with the NAB and soon to sever my accounts with a credit Union who I had been with for over 25 years as they have been taken over by another mob and I don't trust them...so I am going to ANZ.

Please people, look into whichever institution you bank with and find out who their shelf companies are....if you care about our future, you will act on it...
DO NOT SUPPORT ANY INSTITUTION THAT DEALS WITH SHARIA FINANCE.

Islamic school plans halted

2009-06-17T17:58:00.004+10:00

Approved Islamic school plans halted
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/16/2599150.htm

Posted Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:50am AEST Updated Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:00am AEST
Plans for the school have been thrown into limbo. (AAP Image: Alan Porritt)

Map: Hoxton Park 2171
Plans to build an Islamic school at Hoxton Park, in Sydney's south west, have been thrown into limbo, despite being approved by Liverpool Council last night.
The application was halted after three councillors lodged a recision motion later in the meeting.
Liverpool council set up an independent panel to examine community concerns about the proposal for an 800 student Islamic school in Hoxton Park.
Most of the criticisms centred on the traffic problems residents said it would create.
But the panel recommended the school be built and last night a majority of councillors voted to approve the project.
The school's spokesman Ikebal Patel from the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils says some of the opposition was based on prejudice.
"There is a movement of people within the greater Sydney area who have taken it to heart that anything that is Islamic, they would oppose."
"There has been a very rigorous process that we have gone through up until now, an overwhelming majority of councillors had voted for the school to proceed."
The New South Wales Association of Independent Schools says it seems traffic objections have become code for prejudice when it comes to approving new Islamic schools in Sydney.
The Association's executive director Doctor Geoff Newcombe says the Islamic community only wants what other faiths have.
"Our feeling is, it doesn't matter if its an Islamic school, a government school, a Catholic school as long as it satisfies planning regulations and is given the opportunity to adjust plans to satisfy if that's the case," he said.
"It seems more than a coincidence that each time an Islamic school applies to set up, there are objections about traffic congestion.'
The motion to reverse the school's approval will go before the council at the end of the month.

As far as I am concerned, where there is an islamic school there will be a mosque...no doubt there is already many mosques already in NSW, and West Sydney is full of muslims as it is...I believe it is where David Hicks ... you know him as...Our intrepid Aussie from South Australia turned muslim and was just over with his muslim mates in Afghanistan / Pakistan touring around in the name of adventure when he all of a sudden got caught up with a buch of terrorists only he didn't realise what they were..... yeah right!!!!

But anyway, I am just glad we have some people in NSW voiving their concerns and putting a stop to the islamic school...Why can't the muslims call it what it really is...a madrass??? It is what they call a school isn't it?

Maybe the following story might shed some light on this.

Police reveal counter-terrorism raids
Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:30am AEDT
Police and intelligence officers are poring over documents seized in a fresh round of counter-terrorism raids in New South Wales.[MORE]
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2006/03/21/1596619.htm

Posted Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:30am AEDT Updated Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:03am AEDT

Police and intelligence officers are poring over documents seized in a fresh round of counter-terrorism raids in New South Wales.
The action is part of the ongoing Operation Pendennis, which has resulted in multiple terrorism-related arrests and charges in Sydney and Melbourne since November last year.
On March 9 Federal Police, their New South Wales counterparts and ASIO raided homes at Hoxton Park and Bankstown, in Sydney's south-west.
A number of prison cells at Goulburn jail were also raided.
The Australian Federal Police (AFP) and ASIO are now assessing documents seized in the raids.
No arrests were made and no homes were searched in Victoria.
The AFP has confirmed the raids are related to Operation Pendennis.
Last November, police claimed they had foiled a major terrorist plot when they simultaneously raided homes in Sydney and Melbourne in the early hours of the morning.
Meanwhile the lawyer for a man arrested during terrorism raids in Sydney last year says authorities breached legal privilege by taking documents from his client's cell during a jail raid.
Lawyer Greg Walsh says Omar Baladjam's cell and family home were raided.
Mr Walsh says confidential notes Mr Baladjam had made were removed from his cell.
"I'm very concerned that authorities, knowing that I was going to visit Mr Baladjam, would in those circumstances seize documents that he'd prepared for the sole purpose of seeking and obtaining legal advice from his lawyer," Mr Walsh said.
"So there's a remarkable coincidence that authorities raid his former home and raid his cell, and take confidential records or documents that he's prepared to get legal advice [on].
"So any citizen in the community out there can be subject to obviously an arbitrary raid and it would be simple outrage that such documents could be seized by authorities in these circumstances."

Aussie National Bank going Shariah

2009-06-16T16:12:00.002+10:00

Thanks to True Blue Aussie for this... I believe this is only one step further to Australia being in the hands of the Islamists who want to rule the world. I somehow feel that this is out in the open now whereas there are many more Organisations already under Sharia...just not publicly. As it says further on...this just dipping the toe in the water - yeah right!

My fear is that so many naive Aussies will go for this not understanding exactly what it is they are doing. After all, look how so many are gullible and taking loans they don't understand or credit cards and other contracts such as mobile phones etc. without reading the fine print. No interest they will think - but the interest is built in to the loan...equally we already know that when you deposit money into accounts that are in Sharia compliant banks there is no build up of interest either.
I can see many people being sucked into this because of greed.

Australian bank to introduce Muslim friendly loans and raise awareness of Islamic Finance
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25631424-952,00.html http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25632250-5001021,00.htmlNick Gardner and Warner RussellJune 14, 2009 12:00amONE of Australia's major banks is planning to introduce "Muslim-friendly" loans that do not charge interest, to comply with Sharia law.Instead, the National Australia Bank will structure an Islam-approved line of finance to make money from alternative methods.These include profit-sharing on the transaction, joint-ventures or leasing-type arrangements.For example, to get round the Islamic ban on usury - or unfair lending - a Muslim mortgage often works by the bank buying the property, then selling it to the customer at a profit, with the customer then repaying the entire sum in instalments.
In this way the profit margin is built in from the start. It also has the advantage of making the loan immune from future interest rate rises.NAB said the loans, which will start out small, will have to be cleared by a Sharia Advisory Board to ensure they meet strict criteria before they can be made available to the public."We are dipping our toe in the water with this scheme and thought we may be able to offer this product in high-density Muslim areas," said Richard Peters, head of community finance and development at NAB."We suspect there is demand out there, but we don't know how big it is, so we will trial a few products first."For the trial's purposes NAB will pump $15 million from its not-for-profit finance division into the program, which will distribute the funds through various community finance schemes around the country. The bank will monitor the take-up and assess potential demand.Interest-free loans of up to $1000 will be available to help finance household items, such as washing machines and fridges.The loans would also be available to non-Muslims.The news comes just days after federal Assistant Treasurer Chris Bowen said that Australia could exploit international demand for Islamic finance to create more jobs.
For the rest go to… http://true-blue-aussie.blogspot.com/

IRAN: 8 Year old boy bread thief-punishment

2009-06-16T11:35:00.001+10:00

I do not know when this despicably cruel thing was done to this boy as there were no dates or story with what I received.

This would be unbelievable except that it is a Muslim practice.

Muslim Punishment for 8yr. old bread thief. NO WORDS CAN DESCRIBE THIS!!!!!

No religion can ever justify such hideous crimesPass it on let the world know what's happening in the name of Islam.... Pass this to all, for public awareness.
It must be sent WORLD WIDE! Even if this message is sent to you more than once, ............................just keep on passing it on!

From the horses mouth in Malaysia.

2009-06-13T13:00:00.003+10:00

After sometime not hearing from my friend in Malaysia, I was starting to become very concerned about him.

But my fears have been allayed as I received an email from him last night.
As I have mentioned previously in earlier posts, I have his permission to post some of the content of his emails here. This is so any readers can read for themselves, the perspective of someone who hast to live in a Country predominantly muslim and he being a Christian, he has to be very careful what he does and says. Even in his web activities and his emails. He is under no illusion that he is not being monitored and he cannot send for any books or DVD's as customs will be on his doorstep and he will be in serious trouble for speaking against muslims or for buying anything of an anti-muslim nature.
Good God, I cannot imagine having to live like that. He has his friends, but still has to be a bit wary of them especially in what he says.

So here is some of the emails content.
Make of it what you will, but remember that this is real life in a muslim country.

I'm very very shocked when I heard that President Obama would be giving a long-awaited speech to the Muslim world.I could never imagined that.When I read some extractions of his speech,i said to myself "What is he talking about?".The speech is very sweet-talked and he acted as if he is pro-muslim than pro-American.I wonder what is Americans' reaction and feel towards his so-called remarkable speech..Do you have friends from US?Did you ask them their opinion about President Obama's speech?.Even Muslim leaders in Malaysia hail his speech.Our Prime Minister says that he is a true American leader and claims that Malaysia is the best example of Muslim nation in the world.How about Saudi Arabia.Isn't Arabic people practising the true Islam which advocate killing of unbelievers.The problem in Malaysia is most Muslim here are practicing 40% to 50% of Islamic teaching.Some of them don't pray 5 times daily.The most common things they do to show themselves as a Muslim are praying facing Kaabah,fasting during the month of Ramadan and paying zakat(giving alms).

I notice there's a big problem here for me.In East Malaysia(Sarawak and Sabah) where most native people(Iban,Bidayuh,Christian Melanau,Kenyah,Kayan and other Orang Ulu ethnics,KadazanDusun,Murut) are Christian,they have no idea about what Islam really is.They think that Muslim and Christian are praying to same God,yet with a different way.Surely,this is a big problem.As I can notice,the native youths when entering to tertiary level institute(i.e. uni,private college etc),they tend convert to Islam especially with the girls.It's not because they love Islam,but during their uni period,their boyfriend will be a Malay Muslim.FYI,many of Sarawakian and Sabahan ethnics are going to West Malaysia for study and at the same time,West M'sia is Muslim-populated.So,the malay guy will be seeking for non-muslim Sarawakian and Sabahan girl as their girlfriend and start to brainwash them. My emphasis.Sadly,the non-muslim are too naive and totally out of idea about what is the true face of Islam.Nowadays,this issue is on the rise and some of my non-muslim friends even notice about this.I'm thinking about how to combat or at least reduce this problem but I don't know how.If I start exposing the hidden side of Islam,I know there will be a risky consequence awaits.But I did tell and share to my close friends about Islam in such an informal way.I hope I've the guts to tell to more people..

I have had to take out some personal references from his homeplace and a few other identifying remarks.

He is a brave person but he must tread carefully as he is concerned for his family living in the East. I have no doubt that if it were not for them he would be more pro-active and vocal.
So my friend, I wish you God's speed and stay safe.

The Settlement Myth.

2009-06-11T18:40:00.004+10:00

As my learning takes me to most things ISRAEL and JUDAISM I came across quite a few really good websites. And this is one (part)of the lessons I have learned today.

THE SETTLEMENT MYTH.

For generations, Palestinian leadership chose destitution and despair rather than accept any settlement not accompanied by the extinction of Israel.

by Charles Krauthammer
An admirable sentiment. It applies to everyone -- Iran, Russia, Cuba, Syria, even Venezuela. Except Israel. Israel is ordered to freeze all settlement activity. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton imperiously explained the diktat: "a stop to settlements -- not some settlements, not outposts, not natural-growth exceptions."
In his much-heralded "Muslim world" address in Cairo yesterday, Obama declared that the Palestinian people's "situation" is "intolerable." Indeed it is, the result of 60 years of Palestinian leadership that gave its people corruption, tyranny, religious intolerance and forced militarization; leadership that for three generations rejected every offer of independence and dignity, choosing destitution and despair rather than accept any settlement not accompanied by the extinction of Israel.
This article originally appeared in the Washington Post.
Go to
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/middleeast/The_Settlements_Myth.asp
for the full story and others related.

AND FOR A BIT OF HISTORY that I found very interesting.

The Jews In Australia.

http://www.naa.gov.au/naaresources/publications/research_gui... - 22k

The arrival of Yiddish-speaking ‘yokels’ was viewed with concern by vocal sections of both the wider community and the Anglo-Australian Jewish establishment. The Jewish community feared that the migrants’ distinctive dress and manners, non-conformist appearance, poverty and obvious ‘foreignness’ might adversely affect its own standing.
The fears were not unfounded. John Levi has maintained that antisemitism was ‘a strident characteristic of the incipient Australian nationalism of the late 19th century’, lasting well into the 20th century.[10] Sections of the labour movement promoted stereotypes of Jews as manipulative bankers, usurers and profiteers while, at the turn of the century, the Bulletin claimed that the Boer War had been precipitated by Jews for their own (financial) ends. Humphrey McQueen has speculated that the ‘White Australia’ lobbying which resulted in the anti-Asian Immigration Restriction Act of 1901, was, in part, a reaction to a rumoured influx of Russian Jews.[11]
As a result of their concerns, Australian Anglo-Jews consciously developed a policy of non-distinctiveness, encouraging the playing down of cultural or religious practices which might render them ‘odd’ or ‘obvious’ in the eyes of their gentile peers. They emphasised their fervent loyalty and attachment to King and Country and, in many instances, actively distanced themselves from their less fortunate ‘foreign’ co-religionists. As Hilary Rubinstein has written of the Anglo-oriented majority:
Not unexpectedly, the waves of immigration were greeted with mixed emotions by both the Jewish establishment and the wider Australian public, and the immigrants found themselves forced to contend with often less than flexible Federal Government policy. Some found themselves under surveillance as ‘enemy aliens’. Ultimately, however, the immigrants – arriving en masse – had a significant impact on, and in time transformed and revitalised, the remote and insular Jewish community. As Suzanne Rutland has pointed out:

Obama's Settlement Obsession: In a recent public opinion survey of likely American voters participants were asked: Do you think that if the Palestinians were given their own state in the West Bank and Gaza they would live peacefully with Israel or continue their campaign... (read more)
http://www.onejerusalem.org/2009/06/mr-president-jerusalem-is-a-fr.php

(The following 2 statements are parts of some of the comments for this story.)
This man and his dangerous ME policy will soon plunge this region into another war if he has his way. Noel Nitzarim is correct when he said that Obama is clueless.
When Obama speaks to the Arab world, his middle name comes into play and when he speaks to the rest of the world including the USA he uses his first.

President Obama does not have a clue what is really going on in the Middle east. His contention about Jerusalem is way off base.

Women of Islam...Oppression and repression....surely not

2009-06-04T14:35:00.002+10:00

Surely women are not treated like this in the muslim world????? Women of Islam have wonderful lives - don't they??? Oh wait...that's right, I must be talking about muslims in 3rd world countries, right? WRONG... Where's the likes of germaine Greer, and all the activists from all the Universities who partake in Women's Studies???? Islam disgusts me....

Bulletin of the Oppression of Women June 2 2009‏
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BULLETIN OF THE OPPRESSION OF WOMEN, June 2, 2009
Facts without comments We collect the dots, you connect them
Mid-East
May 23, 2009
Israel
A father admits to shooting his daughter in an "honor" attack.

May 24, 2009
Iraq
Men prefer their wives to die rather than be touched by a male doctor or nurse.
May 26, 2009
UAE
A British woman, who is attempting to gain custody of her children, is jailed after being accused of adultery.

May 28, 2009
Saudi Arabia
Religious police want cameras installed in shopping centers to monitor behavior.
Asia
May 26,2009
Bangladesh
A woman is caned for alleging her neighbor is the father of her son.

May 26, 2009
Afghanistan
Girls are no longer allowed to attend school.
May 26, 2009
Pakistan
A 13 year old girl is forced into marriage.

May 28, 2009
Bangladesh
A village woman is whipped after claiming paternity for her son born out of wedlock.

May 29, 2009
Pakistan
Family members shave the head of a woman and and urinate on her.
America
May 27, 2009
United States
US feminists fail to support Muslim women.
Europe
May 26, 2009
Sweden
A girl is awarded compensation for genital mutilation.

May 31, 2009
Britain
Does God Hate Women is a book that cites religious attitudes toward women. There is some fear that the discussion of Mohammed marrying a child bride may bring a backlash from Islamic fundamentalists.

May 31, 2009
Sweden
Liberal party ministers have proposed a law that removes the right to seek exemption from sexual education and swimming classes. This law, in keeping with equality in female education, forbids girls from being taken from these classes and hopes to help the "honour culture oppression of women" from growing.
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The Diet Chocolate Recession.

2009-06-04T13:02:00.002+10:00

The Diet Chocolate Recession.

I feel it is an important subject..Our finances..The Recession etc.
Remember how we were supposed to boost the economy with all these pre-Christmas bonuses??? Spend, spend, and spend some more... Did we all really think the money was staying within Australia...No, it was going to overseas companies and their shelf companies that sometimes wear the Aussie logo, thus sucking us into believing that the product is Aussie made therefore the money stays here to boost our treasury dept.'s growth...WRONG!! Many products might be assembled here, or one or two of the parts might be made here, but it is still an overseas company that gets the profits... So have a read of this article from the DAILY RECKONING...and see if you still think we are not in a RECESSION or Mr Rudd is doing the right thing by us...as I don't. His true colours are surely showing through...Just like the obamessiah's is showing up all the colours on the colour charts...He is one that stands out, for all the wrong reasons...
I actually sent an email to D.R saying I enjoyed this article...

The Diet Chocolate Recession‏

The Daily Reckoning Australia (dr@dailyreckoning.com.au)

Thursday, 4 June 2009

Melbourne, Australia

Two Time-tested Economic Errors
From Dan Denning at the Old Hat Factory:

--Today's Daily Reckoning is brought to you by the stupidity and buffoonery of Australia's politicians and mainstream economists. We thank them for today's bounty. Seldom in our four years since moving to the Lucky Country have we had such a target rich environment. Today's papers are filled with flim-flam, idiocy, and good old fashioned economic illiteracy.

--But wait! Before you write in accusing us of being perma-bears and running down Australia's economic good news, just remember this: the economy is not a footy team. It's not something you cheerlead or barrack for. Of course you want things to be good. But whether they actually are or not is a matter of fact, not national pride.

--And the facts? Here they are, in brief, for the March quarter: imports fell 1.6%, exports rose 0.6%, consumer spending rose 0.3%, and "consumption expenditure" fell 1.1%.

--"Consumption expenditure," by the way, is government, household, and business spending. And business spending, as you know, is investment (it creates jobs and incomes). Business investment actually fell 6.1% in the March quarter. That's an ominous sign for future employment.

--All of that added up to 0.4% GDP growth. That means that technically, Australia hasn't had two consecutive quarters of "negative growth" and isn't in a recession. That's if you accept the technical definition of recessions, or if you're a moron.

-- The numbers show reduced imports because consumers are scared. They show statistically goosed exports which predict lower commodity prices and therefore higher export volumes. And they show the biggest contraction in business capital and machinery outlays since 1991.

-- In summary: to celebrate the GDP figure as a triumph of government policy is to shout your economic ignorance from the rooftops of the world. Sure, there are items to be positive about, especially exports. But the idea that government spending has somehow spared Australia from the long-term consequences of debt and leverage is beyond absurd. If this isn't an old fashion recession, it's a Diet Chocolate recession, in which the short-term benefits of consumption belie the long-term consequences of debt.

--Specifically, there are two errors we'd like to expose, and ridicule if possible. The first is that increased consumption implies healthy growth. For starters, the government's December cash splash may have boosted consumer spending by 0.2% during the quarter. But the bigger contributions to the GDP figure were the surge in exports and big decline in imports.

--Why should that matter? Basic economics. Exports generate income and add to GDP while imports cost money and subtract from GDP (in general terms). Or if you were a business, when you sell more and spend less you generate greater income and profits. That's positive for growth, obviously. And that's what led to the positive quarterly figure.

--But by boosting consumer spending with borrowed money, the government detracts from Australia's long-term health for a short-term political benefit. Healthy consumption is financed from production. You make something. You sell it. The income you generate pays for the things you buy.

--But in the interests of generating the appearance of activity, the government borrowed money so people would spend it (or spent the surplus accumulated in the boom years). That's debt-financed consumption, an economic stupidity that has led America into a national nightmare. That is what the Aussie government seems to be encouraging and crowing about today.

--Of course it's said that deficit spending is "temporary and targeted." But no one has really explained yet how long it's going to take to pay off a $300 billion deficit. It will take years. And it will mean higher taxes or lower spending on other things.

--It reminds you a little of Scarlett O'Hara pinching her cheeks to make them rosy for Rhett Butler in Gone With the Wind. The colour rises, but it's all artificial. It's the same with Australia's GDP figures. The number expanded, but it was completely artificial. It didn't indicate a blush of health, but a kind of bureaucratic harlotry.

--So why go to all the trouble of making a sick economy look pretty? Well, if the first error is believing that you can borrow your way to prosperity without producing something of value and generating surplus income from it, the second error is one a four year old might make. You believe you can have something for nothing. And you want it now or you'll pitch a fit.

--The second error is confusing the temporary benefits of a policy for a small group with long-term benefits for an entire economy. It's like believing you can eat chocolate without getting fat, or get drunk without getting a hangover. Or, if you're doing it on purpose-knowing full well what you're up too-it's putting your short-term electoral prospects ahead of the national interest (something all politicians everywhere now do as a matter of course.)

--To be fair, the journo and politicians who think yesterday's GDP number is a victory for Keynesian policies are making perhaps the oldest mistake in economics. Bad economists and policy makers have always focused only on the immediate and obvious effects of their decisions. After all, it is easy to show who benefits in the short term.

--Pensioners get more money. Who'd argue with that? Who wants to see Nanna starve? Consumer spending rises? What retailer will complain? If you focus only on the short-term and obvious, you see that GDP grows and Australia manages to pull off what only two other industrial countries in the world have? Shouldn't we all be justly proud?

--All these obvious benefits have unseen costs that come later, and hardly anyone in Australia is talking about what those costs are and who doesn't benefit (the next generation). Chocolate makes you fat. Drinking to excess ruins your liver. And debt financed growth ruins a nation's economic health and steals a fair go from the future. Don't take our word for it, though. Just listen to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke speaking to Congress yesterday in America.

--"Unless we demonstrate a strong commitment to fiscal sustainability in the longer term," the Chairman said, "we will have neither financial stability nor healthy economic growth...Maintaining the confidence of the financial markets requires that we, as a nation, begin planning now for the restoration of fiscal balance."

--Bernanke knows America has to get its fiscal house in order before investors lose complete confidence in the U.S. dollar and dollar-denominated assets. But judging by the reaction of markets, it might be too late already to restore confidence. America's debt and deficits are large and getting larger.

--Australia's, by contrast, are merely small and getting larger. But if people begin believing that more borrowing and government spending is good for the economy-based on this first quarter GDP number-then Australia will walk even further down the road that has taken America to a road of national servitude to foreign creditors.

--Any government that is proud of a policy with that result is either incompetent or economically illiterate. However, now that we write that, we realise that is what most governments are: incompetent and economically illiterate. So what should investors do now? More on that tomorrow...

If you are at all interested in tomorrow's follow up, just go to the website of Daily Reckoning..not hard to find.

You Might Be Taliban If ...

2009-05-26T18:07:00.003+10:00

One of the funniest lists I have read for a while...Thanks to Evil Conservative Radion.......And the article was sent in by a Trooper in Afghani land....

You Might Be Taliban If...

Posted: 24 May 2009 07:19 PM PDT

You Might Be Taliban If...
Sunday, May 24, 2009
http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2009/05/you-might-be-taliban-if.html

"YOU MAY BE A TALIBAN IF..."

1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor.

2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes.

3. You have more wives than teeth.

4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon "unclean."

5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.

6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against.

7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.

8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.

9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least two.

10. You've always had a crush on your neighbor's goat.

Guantanamo closed.

2009-05-26T16:58:00.003+10:00

I like to watch SBS at times, but mind you, I also feel it can be a bit one-sided in its views...and it aint the side of politics I am on....As long as none of the released detainees are sent here I will be happy. Australia is NO LONGER the scrap heap for unwanted criminals and sexual perverts.

****I would like to see Sheriff Joe, run another Tent City to confine “suspected terrorists” and those who are proven terrorists. See how many rights they get afforded to them then….And dontcha ya just love the story about the Transexuals in Iran.... Homosexuals are killed but Transexuals get their half their operations paid for by...Now this I do not understand...but with AhMadinejad running the place, I should not be surprised.

Guantanamo Double TONIGHT Tuesday 26 May
One of President Obama’s first actions was to order the closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention facilities and ban the use of torture. So what really went on under the Bush administration’s War on Terror?

8.30pm — Cutting Edge: The Torture Hunter
10pm — Michael Winterbottom’s The Road To Guantanamo
Manfred Nowak is a special UN appointee given the mission of hunting down and fighting torture. Survivors from China, Zimbabwe and Moldova tell their stories of the torture used to create fear and obtain confessions — true or false.
The Road To Guantanamo is the terrifying first-hand account of the “Tipton Three”: three British citizens who were held for two years without charges in the American military prison at Guantanamo Bay. No formal charges were ever made against them at any time during their ordeal. Winner of the Silver Bear at the Berlin International Film Festival.

SBS June 2 at 10PM Tuesday 2 June at 10pm
Transexuals in Iran
Today, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except for Thailand. The government even provides up to half the cost and a sex change is recognised on birth certificates. Homosexuality however remains punishable by death.

Claire says she is no racist...

2009-05-26T16:51:00.002+10:00

I'm no racist, says Clare the bogan
Superstar bogan Clare Werbeloff has hit back at claims she is a racist, saying "wog" is no longer an offensive word in Australia.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/817783/im-no-racist-says-clare-the-bogan/?rss=yes

Speaking for the first since she became an internet phenomenon, Ms Werbeloff expressed disbelief at the attention she has received after her made-up account of a Kings Cross shooting. ...."The next day I had a fan page on Facebook [and] people have been setting up Twitter accounts."

DID ANYONE READ THIS IN THE NEWS??? I am sure some people only know how to comment when they want to be derogatory....they obviously do not have a sense of humour.... Anyway, here is my 2 bob's worth...

FFS, cant you naysayers keep your anger and vitriol and take it to the real racists of this country…the ones who call us “white trash”, “maggots”, “cat-meat”, “filthy infidels”, “apes and pigs”, and oh the list goes on.

We Aussies are well known for our sense of humour, and real true Aussies don’t go in for all that PC-MC crap. We call a spade a spade and that’s all it is… So Claire was having a bit of fun. Look at some of the under handed things the Media have pulled on us...the poor unsuspecting fools of an audience… they set a story up, use false props and photos taken from some story of long ago, then try to feed it to us like it is Sunday’s roast lamb.

And you have the temerity to compare Claire to that little no-hoper Cory???? Excuse me, if that was my grandson, I’d kick his backside from here into next year.

Sheeeshh, No wonder I don’t bother to watch any of the current affair shows these days…. I do however watch Media Watch…I think that’s fantastic as it does expose some of the scam stories these current affairs shows try to foist on the unsuspecting square box viewer.

I am by no means a RACIST, but make no mistake, I do have my PREJUDICES against certain cultures and ethnicities that come here to use and abuse the Australian generosity.

I, myself am a ‘mixed-breed’ of immigrants that came here in the late 1890’s, I have WOG Italian, WELSH, and horror of horrors…IRISH. I was brought up a Roman Catholic and endured years of being called a Catholic Wog… but I just got on with my life…

Oh, and… by the by…I am one of the fans on FACEBOOK.

Israeli Soldier's LIFE & THOUGHTS: Waiting for Churchill#c8562881005157302720

2009-05-11T14:04:00.000+10:00

Israeli Soldier's LIFE & THOUGHTS: Waiting for Churchill#c8562881005157302720

Please read Yoav's blogs, he has a lot to say about being a soldier in Israel...often sad stories.

Islam in Society

2009-04-20T13:09:00.002+10:00

Thanks to Evil Conservative Radio for this.... please go to the link at the righthand side in this page.....and click on the link

Evil Conservative Radio (evil@evilconservativeonline.com)

Islam in Society: Where it Starts, and Where it Ends

Posted: 18 Apr 2009 04:44 PM PDT

Are you concerned about the Islamicization of our nation? This video lays out, nation by nation and stage by stage, exactly what the effects are of creeping Islam. Put this in context with the Islamophilia so openly displayed by the professed Christian Obama, and you have a fascinating and thought-provoking video. To watch this video turn down the volume on the blue player to your right. Hint - if you lower the volume and don't hit pause, it will remember the lower setting when you refresh/return. If it doesn't start, hit REPLAY. Enjoy Don't miss EC GETS THE LAST WORD...

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How lucky we are.

2009-04-13T18:16:00.003+10:00

A collection of comments from a friend.

I have received a few emails from “a friend” who has the misfortune to be living in Malaysia. He is at the University in Penang but his family lives on the other side of Malaysia so he is forced to live close to the Uni while he is doing his degree.
Anyway, first I must say that I do have his permission to re-print some of his comments to me, as he wishes for the real truth to get out to the wider public, and he is in danger if he puts anything in his blogs.

I shall call my friend by another name for his safety. Let’s see, I shall refer to him as Mark or blogger in place of the name of his blog. I will not identify his type of degree, his home area or his friend’s names for the obvious reasons. (identify them and I end up identifying him.)

Please note that in these emails, are some personal messages to me that we write back and forwards to each other so I will edit these out, as they can sometimes be identifying to him, and/or boring to the readers as they would not know the connotations and they will be out of context. And the only other editing I have done is correcting punctuation and I will also edit out any identifying blog names that he uses and any links from his blog. . . I have also added in some of my questions or responses to him. I have also left the dates in and added some of my comments…

Monday, 2 March 2009
Blogger has left a new comment on your post "EX-muslims against islam":

(I asked him if he ever read Faith Freedom by Ali Sina.)

Yes, I have reading FFI articles for almost 3 months. The information about Islam is so perfect and all of them are well-researched. Only the ignorant will deny the truth and then claim that FFI is false without reading it first. Truth is sometimes hurtful but it will set us free and it's something that sometimes people don't want to hear.

Monday, 2 March 2009
Blogger has left a new comment on your post "I urge all Aussies to have a look at the site... A...":

Although I’m not Australian but I support what is said above. Good Nanna! Uphold your country's freedom because I believe it is a very precious legacy that has made what Australia is today. Don't be like Great Britain where Islam appeasement is on the rise. Stand where you should belong. Educate West more about Islam. Don't let your country's liberty, freedom, cultural heritage, and Christian values collapse by a single click from evil agendas of Islam.
Anyway, I’m from Malaysia

Tuesday, 3 March 2009
Blogger has left a new comment on your post "Polygamous Marriage Welfare & no more offending th...":

Hi again. Thank you very much for being my first follower:).. yeah, I agree with you. Islam in Action is very informative in exposing muslim mob, how the western civilization is 'eaten slowly' by Islam infiltration and all the evil images caused by muslims which is rooted from Islam itself. But, you know, to tell you the truth here in Malaysia criticism of Islam is considered a crime and can lead to punishment. Can u imagine that? So sometimes, it's hard for me to criticize Islam. We don't have free speech like yours. And for now situation in Malaysia, the Islamic authority is pushing us Christians to stop using word Allah in our Christian publication or in Malay mass. But our church leaders won't remain silent and they bring this up to the court. As for me, it's not name that matter, but importantly, they fight for our right and the dignity for whole Christian in Malaysia. God bless you and your whole family.
This is my email: xxxxxxx

Thursday, 5 March 2009 Christian Nanna has left a new comment on the post "Malaysia to restore 'Allah' ban for Christians":

(This is my response to a comment left on this blog, to which is followed by a comment by “Mark”)

hey arah, why do you say Paul is the anti-christ? It is very easy and simple to be pulling out texts from books such as NIV, and would I be right in saying the koran? Yes, most Christians believe in the Holy Trinity, God the Father, Christ the Son and The Holy Spirit. But not as separate individuals but 3 Divine beings as one. It is sometimes a very hard concept to understand, and you know what, quite a few Christians still grapple with this issue. It is only by reading, listening to learned people and praying that one comes to a good understanding of the whole concept.
By the look of the web address you have posted I gather it is a site for 'converts' to islam. I wish them well in their searching for whatever it is they are searching for. As long as you all respect the individuals right to choose their own way in life then the world will be a happy place. But we don't threaten death to people if they choose not to follow Christianity. Even Jesus said that each person has the right to choose the path they walk in life.

Friday, 6 March 2009
a comment on “Mark’s” blog has left a new comment on the post "Malaysia to restore 'Allah' ban for Christians":

"He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth"
I'm wondering what is this verse really mean. It's as if that God forgive and punish whoever He likes.. rather than to have this kind of statement, it's more likeable to have it like this 'He forgive who come to Him, and He punish who disobey Him.' By arah.

Friday, 6 March 2009
Blogger has left a new comment on the post "Malaysia to restore 'Allah' ban for Christians":

Yup Nanna, even Christians have some difficulties in understanding in Trinity. So, what more can I say about arah. He/she didn't even spend some minutes to read sample of example regarding the Trinity concept that I've posted.

Friday, 6 March 2009
Blogger has left a new comment on your post "Banned Christian Fellowship Allowed to Meet on Ohi...":

What? I can't believe this.. How could possibly the Christian Fellowship be banned in such Christian majority country? As far as I concern, I've never heard any news regarding the troubles, mob, violence or any unpleasant act committed by Christian student groups at other places in U.S (correct me if wrong).This is totally ridiculous!

(This last comment was in response to some remarks I had made about muslim groups here in OZ carrying on about Christians praying on campus and how it insulted them but that they wanted separate prayer rooms for their prayers to allah.)

( I was telling ‘Mark” how I was planning to buy a couple of books that had been recommended on sites such as JW, IIA & FFI. And about the books and DVD’s I had already purchased online, sent from USA.)
Saturday, 7 March 2009
Blogger has left a new comment on your post "How Islam Plans to Change the World":

Muslim says "you will die for what I believe" Christian say "I will die for what I believe"

I wish I could buy the book that you'll be purchasing. But here in Malaysia, any books that Muslim feel offensive are strictly banned. Only 'wonderful' books of Islam are being allowed. Actually, I kind of interested in Ali Sina's book entitled Understanding Muhammad. I want to order one but I know even if it's shipped here, the customs will inspect the content that I order before I can bring it home. So sad...

Sunday, 8 March 2009
Re: freedom of speech in Australia‏
Hello my Aussie Friend
Sorry for the late reply. I kinda busy lately...

Wow, I don't expect that you will write me an email. Anyway, it's good for me because this my first time having an oversea pal and good for both of us so that we can come up with or share our opinions regarding Islam especially. But before that, let me introduce a little bit of myself. I'm “Mark” and xx years old, living in xxxxx. Currently, I live in Penang because of my study in Uni. I'm doing xxxx and I love sports, reading and xxxxx. maybe you can briefly introduce about yourself..

I become interested in Islam since last year and it's not because I want to embrace Islam. Instead, I want to know the hidden agenda of evil Islam. Here in Malaysia, the evil agenda of Islam isn't obviously seen because a lot of Muslims are moderate and secular. Only a small portion of Muslim groups where their concern is more about Islamic affairs and they don't keep the sensitivity of non-muslim. They always demand our respect and ask us to avoid any sentiments that can cause uproar but they seldom think of others and when someone is trying to speak out, the Islamic group will accuse non-muslim of threatening Islam position in Malaysia. In the West, muslims there are more aggressive compare to Malaysian muslims and I notice that Western muslims are mostly immigrated from Middle East and North Africa (correct me if wrong). I wonder why they are more aggressive and tend to create violence if something offend them. As for me, it's all start with Koran. If Koran doesn't teach hatred and incite violence on non-muslim, then they won't mob around. I did ask my moderate muslim friend whether he truly understands the Koran or not. He replied me that he didn't understand at all because it's not their mother-tongue although they recited the Koran verses during school. What the muslim students know is all the sweet-mouthed talk teached by their Islamic teacher. They won't reveal the bad side of Islam because they are brainwashed by their local imams that say Islam is superior to other religions and it's truth sent by Allah with no imperfection. Verses in Koran are mostly hate-filled and if it read by non-muslim, certainly it will offend us. Koran even command muslim not to befriend with Christians and Jews (Surah 5.51). If Koran is truly sent by True God, why would Him want to set muslim and non-muslim apart.. It's ridiculous! Back to Western muslims and Mid-Eastern muslims, their teaching of Islam is more radical because they believe that radicalism is the way to achieve their goals: conquer non-muslim land by killing infidel or make them convert, replace man-made laws with sharia laws and lastly establish a caliphate world. Fundamentalism, extremism and terrorism are all associated with Islam because of one hate-filled book, Koran.

As I follow Islam in action, Atlas Shrugs and other conservative blogs regarding Islam, it makes me sad because appeasing and catering Islam is on the rise in Western countries such in UK and other European countries. Although there are plentiful of evidences that show Islam and muslim just bring troubles, still some politicians and mainstream media close their eyes for the sake of political correctness. The most tragic is in UK. I don't know what's wrong with their government. Christian heritage, their culture and liberty are gradually 'eaten' by Islamic infiltration. I've heard that Sharia is part of legal system, ban pork meal at school, no-Bible zone in Birmingham, word Christmas changed to White festival, denied Geert Wilders access to UK and Catholic school was asked to promote Islam....just to list a few. This is incredible and unbelievable. How can one of the great countries in the world fall to Islam so fast? It's truly sad if Great Britain turns to Cracked Britain.

I hope there will be more politicians like Wilders who openly opposes Islam. Not only the West, but the rest of the world must wake up to this Islamic global war for the sake of our future generation.

(I was telling him that I plan to re-learn Bahasa Indonesia, as I have a feeling I am going to need to soon)

I'm happy for you that you have the determination to learn Bahasa Indonesia. I understand it a little bit because some of the words aren't differ much from Bahasa Melayu (our official language). Maybe by watching Indonesian dramas or movies, you can learn more and quicker. Anyway just take your time. I believe, you surely can make it.

I don't have MSN chat. I only have Yahoo Messenger..

Jaga diri dan semoga sihat selalu(take care and be healthy always)
Semoga Tuhan memberkati awak selalu (May God bless you always)

Bye. ‘Mark”

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, DeeDee Johnson wrote:
From: DeeDee Johnson
Subject: freedom of speech in Australia
To: xxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 8:10 PM
Hi, and Thankyou for letting me have your personal e-mail address. But umm, what do I call you?? I understand what it's like to have a blog and no followers. I am quite content following the blogs of the people I do...after all, they do such a great job and I can't compete with them, Nor would I wish to, nevertheless I do not have the resources or finances to compete even if I did want to. I was not aware that you, in Malaysia could be up for a 'crime & punishment' for speaking about/against islam, and NO free speech per se, well not as of yet to say the least.

I dread the day if this stupid law ever gets through the UN...who to me are as useless as #@#@#. We sometimes do not know how darn lucky we are here in Australia. There are still so very many people who do not want to be aware of the encroachment which could be imposed upon us...so many Aussies tend to think that if they don't think about it then it won't happen, and it is just something that is happening in another country like a civil war. Take my family for example. They see me as some kind of crazy person because of my political outlook and my religion and my learning as much as I can about islam...I like to know what I am up against. I am about the only Christian in my family.... a few Catholics (non-practicing) but mostly atheists or agnostics but they believe in a form of spirituality.
How safe is it for you to even be writing in your emails about your feelings on islam? I would hate to see you get into trouble.
We Western Christians do not refer to God as allah. We have always said the name of GOD. So this silly new rule will not affect us in the same way as it will affect some others.

It really terrifies me as to what is happening in the UK, as we are still tied to Britain politically. Make no mistake about it, the muslims here are doing fairly well with their encroachments and gaining more concessions every day, and breeding like bloody rabbits I can tell you, all the while putting their hands out for as much welfare as they can greedily get.

Do I guess your name is “Mark”....??? Tell me about yourself if you like. Have you been to visit my Butterfly Haven yet? at http://54cuddlybear.spaces.live.com/ there are lots of photos in the albums, and book reviews, and lots of links to other really good sites...most of them political like Islam In Action is, and I would be very pleased if you would join my network.
Are you able to access MSN chat?...

When I was doing Asian Studies at Uni in 1998-99 I was learning Bahasa Indonesia. After 18 months, and I was getting okay with it, but then I left Uni and had no one to practice with and so over the last 10 years I have lost a lot of it. I often think about re-learning it as I get a feeling I am going to need it as Indonesia is our closest neighbour and there are approx 200 million muslims there, there are only 21 million people in Australia. I have all my books still and I also have a computer program that would help me with it, but I am afraid I lack the motivation at the moment. I really want someone with whom to practice, especially the correct pronunciation. I suppose I could always advertise for a Christian Indonesian person...but what are the odds of me finding one....I would have better luck just advertising for someone who is at Uni and would like a practice partner.

well for now I must go, so you stay safe. your Aussie Friend...Di J...aka Christian Nanna.

(His response to the above)

Monday, 9 March 2009
Hi again...(How should I address you? Di or Nanna?)

Wow, what a long essay you have written. haha.. For me, it won't cause me a headache if you jump from one topic to another topic as long as you don't talk crap here and there. I bet if we meet face-to-face, you'll talk more than me. Anyway, I like the friendliness and talkativeness of yours. I love to listen to people talking about their experiences in life, how they overcome something whenever they are in trouble and especially when the thing inspires me most or it can make my eyes opened bigger like in Oprah's show. Actually, I was an insensitive and heartless person before because I felt that everything is all about me and no one could interrupt my life. I tended to ignore others feeling or concern and I didn't care about the things happened around me but as I grew up, this kind of ignorance seemed to make me feel isolated from the real world. I know as long as I still in this earth, my graph of life shouldn't be constant with time. My life should be either sinusoidal or exponential, which means must have ups and downs. I realized when I stick to the real life where I'm not that ignorant, a lot of things I can experience and learn. This bit by bit improves my sociality and the way I deal with different people of different characters. I'm amazed because your life is full of job experiences and I'm impressed that you're willing to do voluntary job. Some people might feel reluctant to do voluntary job because they want mutual benefit which they want to get paid for what they do. Last month, my friends and I did a charity work back here in Penang. We did this for our Christian group project and our job was to distribute some foods and drink to homeless during the night because during the day, they were nowhere to be seen (don't where they are hiding). Before we went to Penang Island at that night, me and my 12 other friends were busy buying and preparing the food. We packed them sandwiches, orange, sausage, cucur, a stick of chocolate and a bottle of mineral water. Surprisingly, upon arriving to the targeted place, I was so shocked because I never knew that they were so many, more than 100 people scattered at different places. I wondered where are their families and relatives and I kept thinking why couldn't they search for a job, earn some money to support their living. Although I was pity on them, I felt that they actually have the ability to do some job. Is it because the community who don't accept their appearances or they feel happy to continue living like that? However, they are taken care by one organization, we call it Light House under church's support and I pray so that they will live happily and be accepted by people surrounding.

And you know what, out of 12 friends I mentioned above, only one is a Muslim. He is a Muslim convert. He was a Buddhist but later he embraced Islam because after he had some researches on Christianity and Islam, he claimed that Islam makes sense to him more. Oh, before I tell you further, his name was Kwek Keng Hau aka Didi and later changed to Muhammad Danial Yusof Abdullah. Before he embraced Islam, he joined us going to the church and Christian group gathering. At first, I was happy for him coming to accept Jesus, but few months later he appeared to be in change slowly. His close friend, xxx who is a Christian tried to hold him so that he would think twice before he made the decision but xxx's effort failed. He finally converted to Islam because he did tell xxx that Christian people is involved too much in alcoholism. He assumed this after he saw some of my friends drank beers on one occasion. For me, this is unreasonable and unacceptable if it's to be assumed that Christian people are corrupted. He didn't know that Jihadists, fundamentalists and Islamic terrorists are the group of people who bring the actual corrupt to the world. For me, having some beers is just to socialize among friends. Nothing more nothing less. When he's accepted as a new muslim by other muslims, he goes to the mosque daily, read more books on Islam (Islam is surely great in doing taqqiya -holy deception), avoid alcoholic stuffs and prevent doing something that is prohibited by Pisslam. One thing that make me angry is he distance himself from not only me, but my other non-muslim friends. Maybe he has been brainwashed by imam that non-muslim is dirty infidel and full of najis (muslim word for shit). But lately, he's approaching us and I can notice that his life is slowly coming back to normal. He joins us in any activities, drink some beers and he did confess that he's got gambling with his Chinese uncles during Chinese New Year. FYI, although he's still under Islamic name, his way of life is apparently changing. He turns a little bit unIslamic although he still prays according to Islamic pagan ritual. I bet he doesn't pray 5 times a day because he still with us playing football during and after Maghrib azzan (call to prayer at about 7.30 p.m) .Usually, muslim students will stop playing and go back to their rooms when there's a call to prayer. I can feel that he just pray to please other muslim friends so that he won't be condemned. Furthermore, his roommates are all muslim and most muslims here are too sensitive about their religion being defamed. In Malaysia, there's no point of turning back when you have embraced Islam. It's a one-way street, once you're Muslim, you'll remain muslim forever. I hope that one day he has the courage to renounce Islam.

I'm glad that you came back to Jesus. Yeah, I think some people are in denial when it comes to the existence of God. They will keep wondering and thinking "why God didn't answer my prayer although I keep praying", "why He takes life of someone I love", "why am I always unlucky compared to others".. For me, rather than asking God too much, we need to ask ourselves. Emm, maybe something like this, "Do I pray and seek Him with all of my heart?" and "Do I love him that much?". Some people pray to God because they want the benefit for themselves, not because they're being faithful to God. That's the problem. About being unluckier, it's not because God unfairly treats us. He has mentioned that He knows the plan for us and He plans to prosper us, give us hope and future, not to harm us. (A few sentences of his comments were cut here because they were about health issues of mine he was commenting on) Anyway, thanks to God because you still have eyes to watch, nose to breathe, mouth to eat and so on. I pray that you'll stay safe and get well soon. About different denominations in our churches anywhere in this world, I don't see it with any difference although I'm a Roman Catholic. My core belief is in Jesus Christ. That's all.
( I was mentioning some other blog sites that we may have in common)
Wind of Jihad? Yes, I've listed it as the 'site I follow' in my blog. I visit it often. Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch...Jihad Watch is a very good, informative and reliable source regarding Asslam ugliness. Robert Spencer is surely a hope for America's future and his articles about Islam and muslim is well-discussed. He's very well-rounded. I sometimes visit www.faithfreedom.org and www.islam-watch.com. and Islam In Action. These sites reveal the true ugliness of Islam make-up face. Yes, Islam is absolutely absurd, hypocrite and evil. I can watch the evilness made by muslims through Fitna film by Wilders and Obsession. Wow, I never imagine before that conquering the world and force people to submit to Allah are their true goals. Scary...

(After finding out how much danger “Mark” is in by blogging and emails etc. I decided to ask him…..the following)

"I would like to ask your permission to use a couple of your quotes from your email to me to put into a new article on my blog."
His reply….
You have my permission. You can just proceed as long as you don't spam my blog. hahaha...No, just kidding. FYI I have to be careful of my blog contents because there's government department that monitor our blogging activity. It's so sickening!.. Recently, one headline in our government-owned news reported that they have asked the polices and Internal Security Act to track down a blogger whose contents in the blog are about insulting Islam and Muhammad. But until now, the investigation is still pending. No news. So, I need to be careful.

what sort of books do you like to read, when your not studying? How much longer do you have Uni for?
Actually I don't read books much. When I'm not studying, I'll read science fiction books, reader digest, comics and magazine. And also books (in .pdf format) about real face of Islam that I printed out from the internet. So pity of me. hahaha...As you know, I can't purchase even one in this democrazy country. They just sell wonderful shit books of Islam. xxxxxx is my other interest and I xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Last 2 months, I spent RM400(1 US dollar=RM3.5++) just for buying the xxxxx (part of “Marks” hobby). What a waste of money. haha..

(I was telling him why I named my dog what I did).

SEKECIL ANJING. This name makes me laugh. How on earth you came out with the idea? It's a very cute name. Your dog must be as pretty cute as his name. I like dog. I plan to have one when I already have my own family.

I think I should go for now...I want to take bath and get my sleep.

Selamat tinggal (bye) Di aka Christian Nanna. Peace be with you and God bless.

Thursday, 12 March 2009
Hi Di....Sorry for late response. just to let you know that I'm fully packed with bunch of assignments, design project and preparation for my upcoming mini tests and final examinations. Hope you will understand that...

First and foremost, thank you so much for the recommendation of subscription of Christian's newsletters. It's an up-to-date reports worldwide that will surely give me a lot of stories, facts and issues happening within the Christian community.

(I had sent him a link to some online Christian newsletters)

And also thanks for your comment on misguided Omar F*%kri. His statement is so insulting and offends me much. He should be erased out of this world, yet most Muslims support him blindly. So sickening. His henchman, Anjem Choudary is a big problem. How can British government still allow him to stay in Britain although he's evidently bringing corruption within the community? He creates more problems than solving problem. I don't get it because Geert Wilders who has the intention to defend Western civilization, expose evil Islam and not to let Islam to poison the world had been denied of his access to Britain. They called his intention as hate speech and threatening the public security. So politically correct. He's not giving any hate speech. He just makes an open criticism. The one whose 'speech' is filled with hatred is Koran.

I've read your post regarding 'I'll care when...'.Just ordinary woman who has so much concern of what's going on around the world. I hope more people will be like her. For me, it's not an obsession that we're talking much about Islamic terrorism, extremism, fundamentalism and radicalism of Islam, muslim rampage and every issue made Islam/muslim. Instead, we are in the process of waking up, alerting not only ourselves, but others as well.. How long we want to be in deep slumber before we notice that we're already under tyranny and totalitarian ideology.. As we know, Islam isn't all about religion. It's a way of life and there is a hidden political agenda where it wants to impose on the whole world. Thus, I'll care when it comes to the matter of my future generation's destiny and I don't care when Islam is in the state of downfall..

You're so great with your Vol work.. So, you have my credit for the quality you've shown. I hope you'll enjoy with your work and may you get more happiness and blessings. Who knows God use you as an instrument to outreach others so that more people will be seeking the importance of God in life. That's why you never feel burden with your job. Hehe .. God will give you rest. I wonder where you got all the strengths to do a lot of Vol work.

"Take Care....selamat tingall". Sorry to correct you but it should have been spelled like this, 'selamat tinggal'. Anyway, usaha yang baik good effort.

Bye. take care...senyum selalu (smile always) “Mark”

Thursday, 12 March 2009
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“They devise crafty schemes against your people, laying plans against your precious ones. ‘Come,’ they say, ‘let us wipe out Israel as a nation. We will destroy the very memory of its existence.’ This was their unanimous decision.” Psalm 83:3-5 (NLT)

“Yes, this was their unanimous decision. They signed a treaty as allies against you – these Edomites and Ishmaelites; Moabites and Hagrites; Gebalites, Ammonites, and Amalekites; and people from Philistia and Tyre. Assyria has joined them, too, and is allied with the descendants of Lot.” Psalm 83:5-8 (NLT)

Monday, 16 March 2009
Hi there...Sorry for not responding yours for some time.
How are you doing there? I hope you're doing well and having a great weekend.

I'm so sorry to know that Victoria's bushfire has caused unimaginable destruction. I want to extend my deepest condolence to all who have lost family members, friends and loved one in the destructive fire. Surely for those who were living nearby have lost everything and sorry to say that maybe some of them have to suffer a lot because of the unforgettable burden they shoulder. May God bless their future life and give them rest. Although I'm not an Australian, I believe since we're children of God and equal in God's eyes, I can offer my prayer especially to the victims. I'm sure they need someone to help them to rebuild their lives and their homes and I believe some non-government bodies, charity bodies and many other humanitarian organizations there have done some contributions in order to lessen their burdens.

2 days ago, my friend, xxxxxxx warned me that I should be more careful with my blog contents from now on. Then, I asked him why.. He told me that the government has already enacted the law which enable them to detain anyone who dare to criticize and insult government, Sultan's status and Malay high-ranked religion, Islam. I'm appallingly disgusted with their way which tell us as an ordinary citizen what to do and not to do. Recently, 5 have been detained under this enactment because they just gave some comments criticizing Sultan Perak in one Malaysia's website. Yeah, just a comment you can be detained. Unbelievable!.. For me, this kind of action may violate someone's privacy because they monitor what we're doing online. Our privacy and freedom are too limited but I won't bow down because they don't respect our rights of privacy and freedom. Because they think they've got the power and authority, they can do whatever they want. Ouch! It makes me sick.

Ok. that's it up to now. let me hear from you soon ..I want to continue with my unfinished assignments.
Bye! God bless you and your family.

Friday, 20 March 2009

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The worst US president ever.. He's giving the chance for the terrorists to plot another terror attack. Americans should have been waking up by now. Let him be means suicidal to America.

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Free speech can't be stopped as I see it as a pure thought of ideas. Great countries such as US, UK and Australia shouldn't be fallen into a trap created by muslims who use and manipulate your freedom in order to satisfy their own interests. Sorry to say that freedom in such countries gives way for them too much without noticing the impacts that may happen in the future. Defamation of Islam new regulation shouldn't be taken into consideration because if it's effectively agreed, it will kill our future generations for years to come. The less people know about how evil, totalitarian, violence and absurd Islam is, the easier for them to fall into the pit of Satan's home. Open criticism of Islam is to expose more of their true colour so that it will be likely to help for those who are being so naive and ignorant. Islam deserves criticism because it appears wrong in many ways although some muslims do some makeover to cover its ugliness. Plants can't stay too long in dark place as they need sunlight to remain alive.

(the following are my remarks about Chris Logan setting up the Facebook network)
Tuesday, 24 March 2009

Hi “Mark”... How are things?
Isn’t it great Chris Logan has set up his facebook so now we can all communicate with each others contacts....It just means I am here on this darn computer for a lot longer. Quite a few months ago I had a FB and I had a lot of the applications. I found it was consuming most of my time and I really got sick and tired of all the useless emails and messages I was getting...So I got rid of it, closed all the applications etc.. HOWEVER, this is a very different situation...this is about us all fighting this bullshit islam. When I went to sign up again I found I was still registered and all I needed to do was re-activate it. Ho Hum.

I am yet to send you a 'proper' email, but I know you are very busy with assignments etc...I understand as I have been there, done that...I was a mature aged student in Uni 1998-99.
Also my Godson Dallas is at Uni.. Melbourne doing a degree in Music. He will later on apply for his Teaching Degree. He is also a friend on my FB.

Anyway, I am forwarding this newsletter of Gospel Of Asia to you. Hopefully you might know someone who could do with it.

Oh, I did want to ask you one thing. As you now have to be EXTRA CAREFUL WITH ANYTHING YOU WRITE ON YOUR BLOG ETC...if there is anything that you need to get out to the public, I have an idea. If you were to post it to me by regular mail. Then I can make sure it gets out and you will not get into trouble with that pack of bastards.
Customs can not open ordinary mail either coming from you or to you.

Bye for now.. Regards Di.

Say NO to Sharia Law.

Wednesday, 25 March 2009
Hi Dee ,
It's been a while since I was so busy for the past few weeks.. I have limited time in front of my laptop but I still try my best to read Islam- and muslim-related articles and blogs, give comments to them, update my blog and so on. But this week and the following week will be a tough week for me because final exam is just around the corner and at the same time me and my group members have to finish up our design project. I feel like to burst because of heavy load but I need to be very positive to face this situation.

I sometimes have problem in accessing FB because the connection line here is quite damn slow. Every time I try to access my FB, the screen just appears in white. Totally blank. So that's why I seldom log in my FB. The internet will be much faster only during the semester break because almost everybody is going back to their own hometown.. Ok, I'm the eldest out of 4 siblings. All guys, no girl.. I wish I could have a sister. haha...I'm still living with my parents but for the time being, I far apart from them. It's not because I ran way but I have to leave them due to my study. My hometown is at xxxxx xxxxx which is the Eastern part of Malaysia but currently, I'm at Penang which is the western part of M'sia. These two parts of M'sia are seperated by South China Sea. So,I have to travel here (Penang) by flight and only going back home twice a year.
I love xxxxxx because it’s rich with its cultures. In the western part here you can only see Malay, Chinese and Indian but in xxxxxx, apart from those three there are Iban, Bidayuh, Melanau, Kenyah, Orang Ulu and many more. I can't wait going back to xxxxxx this coming semester break. hehe..

As I rethink about the issue which I mentioned in my previous e-mail, I've decided to continue on what I'm doing right now. I don't need to be in fear just because they warn to those who dare to insult Islam.. It's no use to be in fear because I need to wake up, help all of you to expose the evil doings in the name of Islam. For me, fear means you're too coward to face the truth. Truth must prevail..

That's all from me for now.. Bye. “Mark”.

(The following is in response to my blog about more Aussies getting together to fight against islam)
Thursday, 26 March 2009
I wish I could do that here. Invite all my friends to fight against the barbarism of Islam. But FYI, approximately 50% of my friends are muslim. Wow, could you imagine that? But they are all good friend of mine because they know nothing about what Islam truly is. What they do as a muslim are they go to pray (some don't even go to pray) and fast during Ramadan. That's all. You can predict what will happen if I do as what you all do. It's very difficult for me but I hope more people especially Westerners are joining you for goodness sake. Wish you all the best.

Blogger has left a new comment on your post "The Holy Bible and its preservation & Assembly of ...": Thanks Dee. This article has enlightened me more. Now I know how 'preserved' the Koran is. By the way, where you got this? I tried to open up the link given above but couldn't.

This is in response to an article and link I sent him about Father Zakaria, describing how the Koran has had 4 abrogation’s and no matter how many times the Bible has been reprinted, it is always an EXACT copy, unlike the comical Koran…

I just really would like to say a big thankyou to my friend in Malaysia and that I hope all of the above gives some of you just an iota of a glimpse as to what it’s like to live in a predominantly Islamic society. How if we don’t start doing something now about the encroachments of islam on our society then we too will not be able to openly have our beliefs or write what we want in our blogs or advertise what we want etc. I have grandchildren and a great grandchild, and I want them to grow up with all the freedoms that I grew up with…the freedoms that my father fought for…the freedoms that my past generations of family members fought for. The freedoms that so many brave men and women fought and died for. And That is for Australia to be a free country.

How about you?????

Freedom of speech...where?

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So much for free speech.....While we here in Australia can still say more or less what we want without going too far and risk being arrested for insulting islam...you know...the religion of peace...
I have had to take away any identifying remarks from him, but this latest email is in response to a few things I had asked him....

Here is part of an email I received from a Christian friend who lives in Malaysia, and studies at a Uni in Penang. His family live on the other side of Malaysia so he is away from them for most of the year.
I had asked him how his Easter went and explained how we get a long weekend here and how I was too ill to attend Church Thursday night for Easter. And I asked him if they had a long weekend/holidays there for Easter…this is his reply…I have had to take out any identifying names etc to protect him. And yes, I have permission to re-post some of his comments as he can’t do it there.

“Supposedly, we celebrate Easter happily and merrily among our friends and family but I don't have the chance to do so. FYI, tomorrow is my first paper for my final exam and I could do nothing but to attend the mass. After the mass, I directly went back to campus to continue my study for better preparation. FYI, living in predominantly Muslim country, we have no specific holiday for Good Friday and Easter except for Christmas. Here is different, whenever their festivals (Awal Muharram,Eid-ul Fitr,Eid-ul Adha and any Muslim holidays) fall on weekend ( Saturday and Sunday) they will have the holiday replacement on weekdays. For example, if Eid-ul Fitr is on Saturday and Sunday, they will replace those holidays on Monday and Tuesday. So, Monday and Tuesday will be the day off. For Christian holiday, they won't do something like that except for Christmas. If they want to talk about equality in everyone, we suppose to have extra holiday for tomorrow”

I had asked him to please join my network at my other blog that I keep for family and friends as I have a few photo albums in there…, I had also forwarded him a newsletter from Faith Freedom, and asked him if he had ever read it before….this is part of the reply…

I've accessed to your Butterfly Haven and sadly to say that when i entered to your photo albums, it's blocked by Fortiguard. I couldn't access it because it under personal storage restriction. Here in my uni, the internet policies are very strict. Only certain web sites are made accessible. This is what I'm against at. I can call this breaching of student's freedom. Same goes with Faithfreedom, it's also blocked by those who think they are doing the "best" for student. Hey, come on.. We're not underage or a stupid people. The problem here is there's still a control on student's mindset. From the age of 6,the students are asked to absorb what the teacher teaches without allowing us to think independently. This phenomenon continues until our tertiary level. That what makes us different from Western students. I can only have my internet-access freedom when I'm out of this uni. I'm not against my own uni, I just couldn't agree with some of its policy. Back to Sina, I know his blog quite well. I have been accessing the site from my 2nd year of study until it's suddenly blocked out of nothing. Maybe they know I'm accessing it, so they decide to block the page, hahaha ...

This next comment of his saddened me…He does have a blog site, and he has told me on different occasions that he has to be extremely careful as a couple of his friends have been bashed and hauled over the coals type of thing and charged for saying negative things about islam. He was going to start another blog and stay completely anonymous, but he knows that he can be tracked through his computer and he feels as if he is already being watched. This is what he now must do....

FYI, I have to stop blogging for a while. This is because of the reason I mentioned to you. Gov't is busy tracking down for those who dare to insult their so-called religion of peace. When I rethink about it, I've decided to put it on hold. It's not that I put aside completely for what I've done. I'm still visiting your blog, Islam in action, Jihad watch and so on, relating to Islam and Muslim issues. In Malaysia, we have one body called Internal Security Act (ISA) where it has the authority to detain anyone who has the tendency of threatening nation's harmony. "Advocating truth" about Islam is a crime here and I don't want to put my families, friends and my girlfriend on risk. I will continue my blog someday later when the time comes. So, keep up your good job exposing Islam evil, lies and the hate-filled Muslim issues, knowing that one of your friends here has to put the blogging on hold due to unavoidable reason.

I will be putting some more of his comments on my blog on Christian Nanna at http://beauseant.blogspot.com/ just so people understand what some people have to actually live their lives. And I mean ordinary, everyday people, and if they are Christian they are watched very closely especially in places like Malaysia and Indonesia etc. that are predominantly muslim.

Israel Today

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With my quest to learn about Israel, and some helpful suggestions from the crowd at FaceBook, and my trawling around different sites I came across one that I know is going to furnish me with a lot of information. So now I do not think I am going to have to spend so much time at the Library...instead I can see me sitting here infront of my PC for as long as my back will allow me.
Israel Today allows re-posting of articles with credit given to them, so that is no hardship.

About Israel today
http://www.israeltoday.co.il

I have also added a link to my blogroll, and I have signed up for newsletters. I would have liked to subscribe to the magazine but funds are against me at the moment. Nevertheless, they have many, many articles I can read and the ones I have read present a fair and balanced view.

So as I gradually read the articles, and questions on a subject come to me, I will write them down and ask in the forums on FB, I know I will get answers.

Unemployment Shocker in Australia.

2009-04-10T12:22:00.003+10:00

One of the reasons I like The Daily Reckoning is that it actually features Australian issues as well as other places. It does not focus on terrorism or islamisn etc...for that in Australia I have Sheik yermami and a few other good Aussie bloggers. It does however, focus on the economy and in this issue, unemployment amongst other topics.

The following is a few paragraphs from the latest newsletter. You can get the full stories by going to the link in the righthand side bar in this blog.

Unemployment Shocker
The Daily Reckoning Australia.

Buenos Aires, Argentina - Melbourne, Australia
Friday, 10 April 2009

From Dan Denning in Melbourne:

--The stock market is closed today in Australia for Good Friday. That will give us all weekend to digest Friday's rather large rally on Wall Street. Stocks on the ASX were down for the week but finished strong on Thursday. Yet on Wall Street, it was all guns blazing with the Dow up 246 points and back up over 8,000 again.

--So are good times here again? It depends on who you ask. For example, if you ask one of the newly unemployed in Australia, they will probably say that good times are definitely not here again. The ABS reported yesterday that the unemployment rate jumped from 5.2% to 5.7% in March.

--That puts the jobless rate at the highest level since the 1991 recession. That's not the scary thing, though. The scary thing is that it was also the largest monthly jump since 1991. Like a virus that jumps from one species to another, the financial crisis has jumped from Wall Street to Main Street. And if it's as severe on Main Street now as it was on Wall Street late last year...ugh.

--Australia is one such exporter of raw materials to China. And thus, if the World Banks' predictions are to be believed, Australian stocks might be begin diverge from tracking the U.S. indexes as the East Asia affect gets priced into resource shares. But maybe that's already happening!

--Today, everyone admits that there will be trillions more in losses for banks. What no one knows is whether the huge declines on global stock markets in the last year reflect this reality, or whether there is still a considerable amount of self-deception among investors about stocks.

--Bill Bonner in Buenos Aires, Argentina:
The state of the economy can be summed up this way, according to our friend Barry Ritholtz, author of The Big Picture blog and the forthcoming book Bailout Nation.

--Though in Los Angeles, where we just came from, the economy seems to still be floating along, unfazed. It turns out that the worst financial crisis since the '30s wasn't affecting the City of Angels...or so it seems.

The restaurants were full. In the streets, people ambled around, apparently buying things. The freeways were clogged with expensive autos.

What has changed?

Nothing we could see.

--People who have no jobs, or fear losing their jobs, are poor consumers. They hesitate. They procrastinate. They make do.

That's why retail shop vacancies are at a 10-year high. If people aren't buying, you don't need space to store merchandise that you won't sell them.

--Addison in Baltimore, with surprising news about home prices in The City that Never Sleeps:

"Looks like the Manhattan housing bubble is finally cracking under the strain of the credit crisis," says Addison today, taking a break from our marathon editorial meetings.

"Preliminary first quarter data released today show a 60% annual crash in sales of Manhattan co-op ands condos. Average co-op prices fell as much as 24% in the same timeframe, but condo and apartment prices are still relatively firm...for now.

-- "Home prices in Manhattan are still outrageous - there are currently 350 apartments for sale there with asking prices over $10 million.

--back to Bill in Argentina:

In our book, Financial Reckoning Day, which we wrote with Addison Wiggin, we argued that the United States was following Japan into a long, on-again, off-again slump. We wrote the book in the early 2000s and were proven wrong almost immediately. Instead of a long, Japan- like slump, the U.S. economy took off and soon turned itself into the biggest bubble the world had ever seen.

Now, that bubble has burst. Everything is beginning to turn Japanese. The financial crisis is straightening our hair. It's taking inches off our height. And it's causing us to like raw fish!

Japan never got out of its slump. Instead, asset prices in Japan are lower than ever. And the Japanese economy is contracting faster than any economy did during the Great Depression. And to make matters worse, deflation is back. Consumer prices are now falling...again.

--The difference between this bout of deflation, and other periods of deflation in Japanese economic history over the last 18 years, is that now they no longer alone. Switzerland is already in deflation too. And so is China. China has lost 20 million jobs since the beginning of the crisis. Asset prices have collapsed. And now, consumer prices are going down too.

Like Japan, China and Switzerland are exporters. When Americans don't buy, China, Switzerland and Japan don't sell. And soon, their factories go quiet...and their workforce is idled.

--Will the United States soon have falling consumer prices too? Will it finally follow Japan into a long slump?

Yes...and maybe no.

There is a big difference between the United States on one side and Japan and China on the other. The United States is not an exporter; it's an importer. Nor is it a creditor; it's a debtor.

When the Japanese economy fell off the truck in the early '90s, its people had savings. They could wait out the correction. They didn't have to cut spending and increase savings; they were saving enough already. In fact, when consumer prices fell, Japan's savers got richer; they could buy more things with less money.

But the United States can't wait out a correction in comfort. Its people have debts, not savings. Deflation doesn't make them richer; it makes them poorer. And in order to pay their bills, they have to cut spending and increase saving. This puts further downward pressure on the economy and creates a very uncomfortable situation for Americans. The more they save to pay their debts, the more the economy contracts. The more it contracts, the less revenue they have available to save.

--But wait. Isn't there a way out? Isn't there some magic the Fed can perform...some abracadabra, perhaps, from Tim Geithner? What if we get a lot of smart people together in a room, as Thomas Friedman suggests? Won't they be able to figure something out?

We don't know...but we wouldn't bet on it. Tomorrow...what we can learn from Argentina...

----How to Survive in This Economy
by Michael Covel

The vast majority of Wall Street uses fundamental analysis alone. They are the academics, brokers, and analysts who spoke highly of the new economy during the dot-com craze. These same Wall Street players brought millions of players into the real estate and credit bubbles of 2008. Millions bought into their rosy fundamental projections and rode bubbles straight up with no clue how to exit when those bubbles finally burst. Consider an exchange between a questioner and President Bush at a December 17, 2007 press conference:
Questioner: "I wanted to ask you [Mr. President] - I'm a financial advisor here in Fredericksburg [Virginia], and I wanted to ask you what your thoughts are on the market going forward for '08, and if any of your policies would make any difference?"

The President: "No (laughter), I'm not going to answer your question. If I were an investor, I would be looking at the basic fundamentals of the economy. Early on in my presidency, somebody asked me about the stock market, and I thought I was a financial genius, and it was a mistake (laughter). The fundamentals of this nation are strong. One of the interesting developments has been the role of exports in overall GDP growth. When you open up markets for goods and services, and we're treated fairly, we can compete just about with anybody, anywhere. And exports have been an integral part, at least of the 3rd quarter growth. But far be it for me - I apologize - for not being in the position to answer your question. But I don't think you want your President opining on whether the Dow Jones is going to (laughter) be going up or down."
The President's view is a typical fundamental view shared by the vast majority of market participants. Consider further an excerpt found in Yahoo! Finance's commentary; it outlines a single market day:
"It started off decent, but ended up the fourth straight down day for stocks early on, the indices were in the green, mostly as a continuation from the bounce Monday afternoon, but as the day wore on and the markets failed to show any upward momentum, the breakdown finally occurred. The impetus this time was attributed to the weakness in the dollar, even though the dollar was down early in the day while stocks were up also, oil prices popped higher on wishful thinking statements from a Venezuelan official about OPEC cutting production whether or not these factors were simply excuses for selling, or truly perceived as fundamental factors hardly matters."
Millions of readers read this type of drivel every day. Worse, thousands watch Jim Cramer of Mad Money fame promote similar nonsensical beliefs every day. Predictions based off of fundamental analysis don't work for the vast majority of market participants. Great example? Not many predicted the October/November 2008 market crash! On top of not being able to predict, fundamental analysis leaves many with trying to pick bottoms or trust that conditions will always improve. One of the great traders of the twentieth century, Ed Seykota, nailed the problem with fundamental analysis:
"One evening, while having dinner with a fundamentalist, I accidentally knocked a sharp knife off the edge of the table. He watched the knife twirl through the air, as it came to rest with the pointed end sticking into his shoe. 'Why didn't you move your foot?' I exclaimed. 'I was waiting for it to come back up,' he replied."
Don't we all know an investor who is waiting for "his" market to come back? The financial website marketer Motley Fool has a back-story, a narrative behind how it started, that reflects the folly of literally banking on fundamental analysis as a solution for making money:
"It all started with chocolate pudding. When they were young, brothers David and Tom Gardner learned about stocks and the business world from their father at the supermarket. Dad, a lawyer and economist, would tell them, 'See that pudding? We own the company that makes it! Every time someone buys that pudding, it's good for our company. So go get some more!' The lesson stuck."
The Motley Fools' David and Tom Gardner's pudding story might be cute, but it is Forrest Gump-like simplistic (and wrong). Their plan gets you in, but it doesn't tell you when to get out or how much of the pudding stock you must buy. Unfortunately, many people believe that simple story is a good strategy for making money. That is a sad state of affairs.

--Editor's Note: The above was excerpted with permission from Trend Following (Updated Edition): Learn to Make Millions in Up or Down Markets by Michael Covel (FT Press; 2009).

Michael Covel is an author, director, and founder of TurtleTrader.com. Covel's books include the best selling Trend Following: Learn to Make Millions in Up or Down Markets, which has sold over 100,000 copies, and The Complete TurtleTrader: The Legend, the Lessons, the Results. Covel also wrote, directed, and produced the documentary film, Broke: The New American Dream. Covel has been interviewed by Bloomberg Radio, Technical Analysis Magazine, Barron's, and others.

mutilated bodies of three missing political dissidents in Pakistan

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April 9, 2009
religiousintelligence.com
I also have a link to this on the right hand side of this blog.

This list does not record the countries with the worst security situations, rather those most volatile countries where there is the greatest likelihood of escalated violence in the immediate future. While some countries are likely to remain in this condition, newer entries are marked out.

A cleric who negotiated a peace accord that ending fighting between the Taliban and security forces in Pakistan's Swat valley says he is leaving the region to protest the government's failure to impose Islamic law. Sufi Muhammad's announcement today casts doubt on the durability of a controversial peace effort in the valley. US officials have expressed concern that the deal will create a sanctuary for allies of al-Qaida. President Asif Ali Zardari has said he will only sign an order introducing Islamic law in the region once peace has been restored there. Imposing Islamic law was the key plank of the peace accord.

Violence erupted in southwestern Pakistan today after the discovery of the mutilated bodies of three missing political dissidents, with one police officer killed and three others injured. Activists immediately blamed Pakistan's spy agencies for the dissidents' grisly deaths. The unrest in Baluchistan province — where a kidnapped American was recently freed after two months — raises another threat to the stability of nuclear-armed Pakistan. The country already faces spreading Islamist militancy in its northwest and mounting US pressure to hunt down al-Qaida leaders on its soil.

The list goes on to describe countries around the world who have islamist terrorising the population, Journalists, clerics, missionaries etc. and the politics of these places. Makes for rather interesting reading. Also lets us keep up with what is happening around the world.

NY Times is like a Whirling Dervish

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Some interesting articles from - BoycottNYT.com
I have included each individual link.
There is also a petition to sign protesting the new york post.

In Covering Obama, NY Times is a Whirling Dervish
By Don Feder | Wednesday April 8, 2009
In reporting on Obama's speech to the Turkish parliament, The New York Times was like a groupie screeching over a rock star.

http://boycottnyt.com/in-covering-obama-ny-times-is-a-whirling-dervish/

Times Applauds Obama’s Self-defeating Response to North Korea
By Don Feder | Monday April 6, 2009
When The New York Times reports on President Obama's foreign policy pronouncements, it treats rhetoric as reality.

http://boycottnyt.com/times-applauds-obamas-self-defeating-response-to-n-korea/

Add Anti-Semitism To The Biases Of ‘The New York Times’
By Herb Denenberg | Friday April 3, 2009
The New York Times has a long record of being anti-Israel and anti-Semitic, so its association with this cartoon should surprise no one. I checked a group of anti-Semitic cartoons circulated by the Nazis and Arabs, and Mr. Oliphant’s fits that mold perfectly. He has captured the vicious, pernicious Jew-hatred perfectly. Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda minister, and Yasser Arafat would be proud of him.

http://boycottnyt.com/add-anti-semitism-to-the-biases-of-the-new-york-times/

Would Someone Who Blew Up The Times Building Be a “Terrorist” or a “Militant?”
By Don Feder | Wednesday April 1, 2009
What do you call someone who uses bombs to turn civilians into body parts? If you're not afflicted by moral relativism, you call them "terrorists." If you're The New York Times, you call them "militants," "extremists," or "insurgents."

http://boycottnyt.com/would-someone-who-blew-up-the-times-building-be-a-terrorist-or-a-militant/

Times Columnist Gloats over America’s Economic Decline
By Don Feder | Monday March 30, 2009
Paul Krugman, who sings socialist serenades on the op-ed page of The New York Times, loves to rail at what he calls unbridled capitalism. As delighted as he is by President Obama's statist policies, Krugman is equally outraged that some refuse to shut up and do as they're told.

http://boycottnyt.com/times-columnist-gloats-over-americas-economic-decline/

The Sociology of Jihad‏

2009-04-10T07:59:00.002+10:00

This is an excellent artical...well worth reading. It is nice to know there are some professors out there who do know the real deal. Unlike the islam loving lecturers I had to put up with in Sociology and Asian Studies when I was at Uni 1998-99. They did not want any essays from us that were not within their way of thinking, so I played the game and got good marks, I only wish I could have had someone like John Andrews teaching me, then I could have joined this struggle a lot sooner and learnt the truth. I used to cringe when Lecturers and professors would spout off about how beautiful islam is, and they would even go so far as to denigrate Christianity in favour of islam. aarrgghhh!!!!!

The Sociology of Jihad‏
Bill Warner (bw@politicalislam.com)

Friday, 10 April 2009
A reader responded to my charge that university professors are dhimmis. He maintains that not all professors are apologists and sent me this well-done article using a sociological basis of analysis. This is the type of work reflects both knowledge of doctrine and critical reasoning.

The Sociology of Jihad, How Rational People Commit Atrocities
John Andrews

The Salafists believe that only Jihad can reestablish a true Muslim state that will abolish all injustice from the earth and bring people out of the servitude to others and into the servitude of God. It is the duty of Islam to destroy all political systems which prevent people from freely choosing it and experiencing universal freedom (56). The sword (Jihad) must clear the way for the preaching and destroy those elements which limit mankind to living in a world of evil and chaos (62). This sword would be carried by a restored Caliphate based on the traditions of the Prophet. The Caliphate would be a leader the masses could trust, understand and follow. He would provide a simple message well suited to Muslims, not well schooled in traditional Muslim teachings. This message is liberating the Umma from its external enemies, the infidels and Jews (al-Zawahiri, 2001: part 11).
It is difficult to generalize about the characteristics of the Salafist. Most of these individuals, approximately 80 percent, went to secular schools as children. Over 60 percent had some form of college, many attending in the West, and most were trained in the sciences, not philosophy or religion. However, a majority considered themselves religious as children; 73 percent were married and most had children. The majority were from overprotected families with doting parents and stable households. They did not suffer from any major mental disorders. If they had antisocial personalities, they would have been weeded out because of their inability to work well in an organization and their lack of dedication, perseverance and ability to sacrifice for the cause. The 9/11 hijackers are perfect examples. They were not hostile, violent or macho throughout their yearlong stay in the U.S. However, when the moment came they killed enthusiastically. They were able to do so because of their social networking and group morality, which was developed over years. These individuals were not predisposed to do harm individually, but did not hesitate to perform monstrous acts collectively (Sageman 2004: 74-82).
This original group joined the Jihad in their mid-twenties in a country where they had not grown up. Although they were, for the most part, religious as children, they became considerably more devout immediately before joining the Jihad (92). The subsequent group of Salafists were second- or third-generation Muslims living in the West. Many of these individuals felt excluded from the society they grew up in, had no discipline in their lives, and pursued petty crimes, drank and took part in drug use. They grew up with little or no religious training (100-101). We will go into greater detail later on this second group, but for now it is important to note a similarity between both groups prior to joining the Jihad. They felt alienated in their current society. This was true for the first group who had immigrated to another country and the second group who felt alienated in the country of their birth. They both sought a cause that would give them emotional relief, social community and spiritual comfort (97). They eventually drifted towards like-minded local individuals.
The original group sought out the mosque in the foreign country where people from their homeland were. These prospective converts may initially have had strong reservations about the group's doctrines, but began developing strong ties of friendship with members of the group. There they began to form networks of friendships that solidified over a period of time. Sub groups were formed within the mosque where the intensity of their beliefs spiraled upward in an apparent game of one-upmanship. They found rules and structure that went beyond religion and became psychological and personal (108-109). They became embedded in a socially disembedded network, which, because of its lack of anchor to any society, is free to follow abstract and apocalyptic notions of a global war between good and evil (151). Instead of a top-down process of recruitment, it became a bottom-up process of young people volunteering to join the organization. They joined as a group, not as individuals. The East African embassy bombings and the Lackawanna Six involved individuals were close friends prior to joining the Jihad. Most of these relationships go back to childhood or are familial in nature, including in-laws and spouses. The crucial element is that social bonds predated formal recruitment into the Jihad. (110-113)
This process is rarely a fully conscious one. These sub-groups do not start out as terrorist groups. They evolve in that direction as their mutual relationships deepen, in a spiral of greater loyalty, mutual devotion, self-sacrifice and intimacy. They begin to believe that their actions are taken on behalf of God. Although outsiders focus on their willingness to kill, the insiders focus on their willingness to die. Their awareness of their own readiness to transcend their own self- interest fosters a special view of themselves and others like them that increases the value of friendship within the group and diminishes outside relationships. These feelings may compete with, and even be stronger than, those of love.
Ziad Jarrah's fiancé testified about her progressive loss of her fiance's love to the Hamburg terrorist cell which planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks. The loss of love to this type of friendship demonstrates its powerful bond. Positive emotions motivate people to carry out horrific acts more easily than negative emotions. Killing in defense of family, friends or country is acceptable and encouraged. Perhaps the 9/11 perpetrators carried out their horrendous actions out of in-group love rather than out-of-group hate (155-157). As was previously stated, the Jihad strives in the cause of God to abolish all injustice from the earth in order to bring people to the worship of God alone and to bring them out of servitude to others-to abolish those oppressive political systems, which prevented people from freely choosing Islam.
Islam is one of the most communal of all religions, with many orchestrated, shared rituals. Salafi Islam is very strict in its code of conduct and prescribes dress, diet and conduct. The elegance and simplicity of its interpretations attract many who seek a single solution devoid of ambiguity. Salafi Islam uses tactics developed by other totalitarian ideologies, such as fascism and communism. It promotes a visual apartheid to distinguish its adherents from the rest of society. The specific uniform consists of beards, shirts falling down to the knees, and baggy pants with a cloth cap. They also carry worry beads. Women cover their hair, avoid bright colors, and, in some instances, wear the burqa, which is head-to-toe covering. They have simple answers to complicated problems, and they divide the world into good Islam and bad non-Islam (116).
There is another subtle factor that makes Islam attractive. Traditional masculine roles are well preserved in Islam. Western men find it difficult to express their "manhood" in increasingly neutered societies. Islam possesses what are seen as masculine virtues from the seventh century when men walked the earth, sword in hand, accepting no insult, and conquering infidel neighbors. In comparison to Christianity, which states "turn the other cheek and pray for those who persecute you," Islam comports more closely with man's primordial lusts for war, booty and women (Ibrahim, 2006).
People will often seek a new religious or social affiliation after some significant change disrupts their old social networks, e.g., a new country, imprisonment, and alienation from friends and family. There is a period of social isolation in which the existing social and emotional ties are called into question and loosened until finally there is a total negation of everything that existed before (Sageman 2004:116). The religious revivalist organization possesses superior attractiveness over a secular political group. The Salafist emphasizes brotherhood, mutual sharing and spiritual support, which becomes the functional equivalent of an extended family.
New adherents progressively accept the new faith because it makes sense in their new interpretation of the world and their role in it. This learning process involves intense social interaction and introspection. The adherents distance themselves from their original network of friends and family or are rejected by them because of their new, highly visible behavior. The mastering of their friends' beliefs comes after a long period of intense day-to-day interaction with them. In many cases they begin living an isolated lifestyle, which intensifies the social bonds of the members. This leads to a spiral of further isolation from the outside world, the development of a collective identity, and total commitment to the group. Muslims may engage in the Jihad because they share certain norms, values and worldviews which are shaped under the guidance of a Salafi imam preaching the benefits of the global Jihad. Social interactions at these mosques build and reinforce ideological commitments to the Jihad, which these new friends further encourage (117-121).
This social jihadism has worked with second- or third-generation Muslims and new immigrants as well. This development is a paradox to many sociologists, who figured that radical Islam was confined to newcomers who brought it with them. With time, the theory went, immigrants and their children would moderate their views. Instead, it is Europe's second- and third-generation Muslims who are the most radical. Many of these individuals believe their European society is against them. They are growing up in a world of high unemployment and lack of integration in their homeland. Some begin drinking, doing drugs, becoming members of youth gangs and engaging in crimes with no moral compass or goal in life. They then become introduced to an individual who talks to them about the world, their place in it, and the religion of their ancestors. They are provided with audio and videotapes of preachers who advocate a stripped-down form of Islam that emphasizes the culture's past glories and a handful of simple religious regulations.
Soon they are meeting with like-minded contemporaries, getting rid of jeans, t-shirts, drugs and alcohol and wearing the white gowns, skullcaps and beards. They become indoctrinated into political Islam, which preaches a Utopian view of society where all citizens are part of a just and fair Umma. There is no separation of church and politics. Life centers on the mosque not just for religious instruction, but for everything. Society should be founded on Islam, and all those who are different are held in contempt. Inside the mosque talk isn't of integration, but rather how to protect oneself from harmful European society. Those members of the mosque who do not agree with this political Islam are shunned or forced out. The group dynamics change alienated young men into terrorists.
Basically, these individuals, with the help of their friends, recruit themselves. They do not necessarily attend terrorist camps or have experience on the battlefields (Johnson and Carreyrou: 2005). Their source of knowledge and indoctrination comes from the Internet. The Internet both appeals to and fosters disembeddedness. On the one hand, it appeals to isolated individuals by easing their loneliness through connections to people sharing some commonality. On the other hand, it leads them to spend more time with this virtual community at the expense of interaction with the immediate social environment. The chat rooms are egalitarian and appeal to those with limited theological background. It is a perfect compliment to the elegant simplicity and clarity of Salafism. The virtual community is not tied to any nation but to the abstract concept of the mythical umma of Salafism. This community is just, egalitarian, full of opportunity, unified in Islam, purged of national peculiarities, and devoid of corruption. It is the ideal world that Jihad strives for (Sageman, 2004: 161-163).
"He is a great guy, one of the nicest people I've ever met. He is a loving husband and he has a wife and parents in town. They are a great family. He is a very kind person. You would meet him on the street and he would want to hug you. He was a normal guy always laughing. We went partridge hunting together. He was into partying. We hit some pretty wild clubs in Hollywood." These are all quotes from people who knew individuals convicted of killing hundreds of people in suicide attacks or conspiring to provide money, recruits and equipment to the international Jihad.
Were they really decent fellows? They would never commit a murder or crime of any kind for personal gain or self-interest. Their ideology convinced them that the murders were committed for a good purpose. They were committed for the sake of a societal vision of building a good and just world. They are not unlike the SS during the Third Reich. Heinrich Himmler told a group of SS leaders:
"Most of you know what it means to see a hundred corpses lying together, five hundred or a thousand. To have gone through this and yet-apart from a few exceptions which are examples of human weakness-to have remained decent fellows, this is what has made us hard. This is a glorious page in our history that has never been written and shall never be written ... "
These people are not raving maniacs. We must go beyond calling them terrorists and examine their ideology. They do not perform these acts in a vacuum. They are building a society and will use any means to achieve it. They do so not because they are sociopaths who hate people, but because they are true believers who want to save people. And so we are continually surprised when they turn out to be nice guys after all. Decent fellows. Like the SS (Spenser, 2007).
REFERENCES
Al-Zawahiri, Ayman. (2001) "Knights Under the Prophet's Banner." Serialized in eleven parts in Al-Sharqal-Awsat (London) December 2.
Ibrahim, Raymond. (2006) "Islam's Appeal or Boys Will Be Boys." www. victorhanson.com. September 19.
Johnson, Ian and Carreyrou, John. (2005) "In France, Political Islam Preaches Intolerance, Challenge to Secularism." Wall Street Journal, July 11.
Qutb, Sayyid. "Milestones." N.D.
Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Mother Mosque Foundation.
Sageman, Mark. (2004) "Understanding Terror Networks." University of Pennsylvania Press, Philedelphia.
Spenser, Robert. (2007) "Why's a Nice Guy Like You Doing a Terrorist Act Like This?". www.FrontPageMagazine.com. April 18. 8
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Mr. Andrews served as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation for twenty-three years. He conducted international terrorist investigations for nine years, serving as a national case agent and coordinating with the United States Foreign Intelligence Court in order to initiate extraordinary investigative techniques in complicated terrorist investigations. He operated numerous Middle-Eastern assets. Mr. Andrews currently serves as an Adjunct Professor at Florida State University and Troy University conducting seminars on Islamic Fundamentalism and International Terrorism and Conducts police training throughout the United States for Benchmark Professional Seminars and Unitech on Homeland Security and Terrorism.
Reprinted from: The Counter Terrorist-July/August 2008

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Fethullah Gulen Infiltrating the US Through Charter Schools

2009-04-10T07:51:00.002+10:00

Here is something a bit new to most people. And especially with the tuks living in the US and mocking the pres Hussein.

By the way, does anyone know why he is called by those that revere him the Ruler of the world...I thought he is just the CEO of the United States.

Fethullah Gulen Infiltrating the US Through Our Charter Schools?

An ACT! for America Exclusive
by Guy Rodgers

www.actforamerica.org

For some time we have been researching a Turkish-based Islamist movement that has a significant network here in the United States. Given Turkey’s history of secular, democratic government, and some of the remarks made by President Obama in his recent speech there, many of our members and other readers will likely be surprised by what we have found.

I suspect that even many who are well-read on the issue of Islamism are unfamiliar with the Fethullah Gulen Community (FGC), a movement a February 2009 article in the respected Jane's Islamic Affairs Analyst labeled “Turkey’s third power.” Indeed, the article noted in its Key Points: “Turkey’s Islamist Gulen movement, while a powerful political force, is largely an unfamiliar entity to the West.”

The FGC is named after Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish imam who now lives in the United States. He fled Turkey in 1998 to avoid prosecution on charges that he was attempting to undermine Turkey’s secular government with the objective of establish an Islamic government. Since Gulen’s arrival here the Department of Homeland Security tried to deport him, but he successfully fought the effort in federal court because it was ruled he was an individual with “extraordinary ability in the field of education” – although he has no formal education training.

The FGC emerged in Turkey in the 1970’s. According to the Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst piece, Gulen stated that “in order to reach the ideal Muslim society 'every method and path is acceptable, [including] lying to people.’” This public acknowledgement of taqiyya (employing deception to advance Islam) is highly pertinent to Gulen’s activities here in the United States.

A recent article in the Middle East Quarterly by Rachel Sharon-Kreskin titled “Fethullah Gulen’s Grand Ambition” sheds light on Gulen’s background:
Gülen was a student and follower of Sheikh Sa'id-i Kurdi (1878-1960), also known as Sa'id-i Nursi, the founder of the Islamist Nur (light) movement. After Turkey's war of independence, Kurdi demanded, in an address to the new parliament, that the new republic be based on Islamic principles. He turned against Atatürk and his reforms and against the new modern, secular, Western republic.
Sharon-Kreskin documents how the FGC, in league with Turkey’s ruling party, Adalet ve Kalkinma Partisi (AKP), has been successful in gradually moving Turkey away from its secular democratic governance, towards an Islamist state governed by Shariah law, and reorienting itself toward Iran. What’s more, other evidence suggests that Gulen’s ultimate goal may well be the resurrection of the Ottoman Empire so as to reinstate the Islamic Caliph. Clearly this has immensely serious ramifications for geo-political affairs in the Middle East as well as for the continued rise of radical Islam throughout the world.

What makes Gulen particularly dangerous is his strategic and tactical means to achieving this goal. He oversees a worldwide network of businesses, schools, foundations and media outlets, with an estimated budget of 25 billion dollars. Here’s what Gulen had to say in a sermon in 1999 aired on Turkish television:
You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.
Simply put, he is brilliantly and patiently employing taqiyya on a global scale, because this strategic approach is not confined to Turkey.

Here in the U.S. the FGC runs over 90 charter public schools in at least 20 states. This was brought to our attention by ACT! for America members who actually have relatives who teach in one of these schools, an illustration of the growing reach of ACT! for America’s “eyes and ears” across our country. For obvious reasons we cannot reveal the identity of our sources.

Our readers may be familiar with the numerous emails we have released regarding the operation of the Tarek ibn Zayed Academy (TiZA), a publicly funded charter school in Minnesota that is so blatantly Islamic in nature that the Minnesota Department of Education issued two citations against it and the ACLU is suing it. FGC schools appear to be very different, and reflect the Gulen’s exhortation to “move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers…”

Indeed, the fact that so little has been written about the FGC schools here in the U.S., as well as the accolades that have been accorded the FGC as a model of “moderation” by some in our government, would appear to confirm that the FGC and its schools are doing an excellent job of heeding Gulen’s exhortation and masking their true intent.

During several discussions and emails with our sources inside FGC schools, I asked specifically if the schools promote Islam in the way that the TiZA school in Minnesota does. I was told that this was not the case in the schools these sources were familiar with. However, one particular school (and likely numerous others) appears to be in violation of state law because the school’s affidavit for its charter does not acknowledge that it is connected with a religious institution or group. In other words, those who chartered this school practiced taqiyya by hiding this fact. (Enterprising readers may want to research this with respect to FGC schools around the country. For a list of the FGC network in America and its schools, click here).

What’s more, the schools appear to be a source of recruitment for outside school activities sponsored by the FGC, such as summer camps, which would be in keeping with the pattern of recruitment of members and followers that FGC employs worldwide, according to both the Jane’s and Middle East Quarterly articles.

As a further example of the use of taqiyya, the Jane’s article gives examples of how FGC’s Turkish language media outlet Zaman runs stories with information and headlines that are missing from the English language media outlet Today’s Zaman. This practice of two different messages, one to the indigenous Islamic population and one to the West, is common in the Islamic world, and has led many in the West, including political leaders and academics, to be misled as to the true intentions of Islamists.

In building a sophisticated and well-funded worldwide network, including a substantial presence here in the U.S., Fethullah Gulen is following in the footsteps and exhortations of Mohammed, who counseled patience and deception as a means of overcoming the infidel when the power of the infidel was greater than the power of the umma, the Muslim community. In a very real sense this is as or more sinister than the frontal assault strategy of Islamist organizations such as al Qaeda and Hamas, because, like the proverbial “frog in the kettle,” we are incrementally “boiled alive” without realizing it.

For years American Congress for Truth, and now its “sister” organization ACT! for America, have been ringing the alarm bells about what is variously known as “cultural jihad,” “creeping jihad,” “stealth jihad,” and “creeping shariah.” Much of Europe and Great Britain has been Islamized through this process, a process that invariably does not lead to peaceful coexistence between Muslims and non-Muslims, but leads to Islamic self-segregation, increased Islamist militancy and aggression, and the eventual forced imposition of Islamic shariah law within the society.

The FGC charter schools in America may outwardly appear innocuous, but they are serving a greater and long-range objective of Fethullah Gulen. We in the West need to be less gullible and more discerning when it comes to the elements of “stealth jihad” within our midst.

Guy Rodgers is Executive Director of ACT! for America.

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New York Immigration Attorney Wife Convicted of Asylum Fraud

2009-04-09T18:56:00.002+10:00

About time we see some of this happening.

New York Immigration Attorney Wife Convicted of Asylum Fraud.

New York immigration attorney James Christo and his wife, Remila Christo, were found guilty of conspiracy to commit immigration fraud for assisting a 'client' --who was actually an undercover FBI agent posing as an Albanian immigrant -- to create and document a fake story of persecution in support of an application for political asylum.

IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY AND WIFE FOUND GUILTY OF ASYLUM FRAUD
LEV L. DASSIN, the Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced that New York immigration attorney JAMES CHRISTO and his wife, REMILA CHRISTO, were found guilty today of conspiracy to commit immigration fraud following a one-week trial before United States District Judge DAVID HITTNER, sitting by designation in the Southern District of New York.
As established by the evidence presented at trial:
JAMES CHRISTO, with the assistance of his wife, operated a law firm in Manhattan that, among other things, assisted aliens of Albanian nationality with applications for political asylum. In April and May 2004, the CHRISTOs worked together to help a "client" -- who was actually an undercover FBI agent posing as an Albanian immigrant -- to create and document a fake story of persecution in support of an application for political asylum.
JAMES CHRISTO, 44, and REMILA CHRISTO, 35, of Jersey City, New Jersey, were both found guilty of one count of conspiracy to commit immigration fraud and face a maximum sentence of 5 years in prison. CHRISTO was found not guilty on a second count of conspiracy to commit immigration fraud. Sentencing of the CHRISTOs is scheduled for July 17, 2009, at 2:00 p.m.
Mr. DASSIN praised Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for their work on the case.
Assistant United States Attorneys RUA M. KELLY and BRENT S. WIBLE are in charge of the prosecution. This case is being prosecuted by the Public Corruption Unit of the United States Attorney's Office.

Turkish TV Mocks Obama in Blackface

2009-04-09T18:26:00.003+10:00

Turkish TV Mocks Obama in Blackface
Posted: 07 Apr 2009 07:48 PM PDT
This comes pretty close to maxing out the weird scale... a Turkish broadcaster in blackface reporting on Obama's butt-kissing speech today in Turkey. Obama's speech was long on praise for Islam and apologies for America. I wonder what the response would be if Rush Limbaugh did a show in blackface? ScoopThis.org provides a rough translation of the original jibberish: "Welcome, Mr. Obama. You took our hearts with your hospitality. We appreciate your kindness. We will do whatever America asks of us, as friends. Now, we ask the same of you." To watch this video turn down the volume on the blue...

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Gawd, talk about the old Black and White Minstrel Show. Yeah Hussein should be good at kissing arse by now, especially when he prays at the mosques...I just wonder what row he'd be in.
I am only sorry I am having audio problems at the moment...... what a joke.

Watch Barack Obama vs. The Law Here!
Posted: 07 Apr 2009 04:56 PM PDT
Watch NMA TV's daring new film, “Barack Obama vs. The Law" - Available now! In the film, Attorneys Dr. Orly Taitz, Mario Apuzzo, and New York City’s WOR talk show host Steve Malzberg make the case questioning Barack Obama and his constitutional eligibility for the presidency of the United States. To start watching the movie now, Just click the "Play" button in the viewer to the left. Following the preview you will be prompted to pay just $1.99 to watch the complete film....Thank you and enjoy the movie! To watch this video turn down the volume on the blue player to your right. Hint - if you...

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So when are the American citizens gonna rise up and demand proof that the obamasia was born in the USA. If the proof can be found, will he then get kicked out of the White House??

12,000,000 New Democrats
Posted: 07 Apr 2009 03:28 PM PDT
Contributed by Joan Sharon The acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau, Thomas Mesenbourg, told CNSNews.com that the bureau intends to work with community organizations to make sure every illegal alien in the United States is counted in the 2010 Census. The Census is used to apportion the seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. There are 435 House seats that are divided among the states in proportion to their population, which is determined by the decennial census. States with more people get more seats in the U.S. House. This means that a state harboring more illegal aliens can...

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So does this mean that illegals put their details in the census form....??? who would be so stupid??? Surely they would be getting knocks on their doors from the relevant agencies....What a bloody joke. Fancy having more bums on seats because they have more illegals in their areas... Ah, can't wait to read the rest of it.

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Will Untapped Ottoman Archives Reshape the Armenian Debate?

2009-04-09T18:18:00.001+10:00

Will Untapped Ottoman Archives Reshape the Armenian Debate?
Turkey, Present and Past.
by Yücel Güçlü
Middle East Quarterly
Spring 2009, pp. 35-42
http://www.meforum.org/2114/ottoman-archives-reshape-armenian-debate

The debate over what happened to Armenians in World War I-era Ottoman Anatolia continues to polarize historians and politicians. Armenian historians argue that Ottoman forces killed more than one million Armenians in a deliberate act of genocide.[1] Other historians—most famously Bernard Lewis and Guenter Lewy—acknowledge that hundreds of thousands of Armenians died but question whether this was a deliberate act of genocide or rather an outgrowth of fighting and famine.[2] In recent decades, the debate has shifted from academic to legislative grounds. In 2001, the French parliament voted to recognize an Armenian genocide.[3] In 2007, U.S. political leaders narrowly averted an Armenian genocide resolution in the House of Representatives. While Armenian activists lobby politicians to recognize an Armenian genocide formally, which is likely to be a first step toward a demand for collective reparations, and genocide studies scholars seek to close the book on the Armenian narrative, it is ironic that many of the archives that contain documentation from the period remain untapped.
The Richness of Ottoman Archives

Ottoman soldiers march through a town. During World War I, Ottoman soldiers fought Russian troops in areas populated largely by Armenians.

In 1989, the Başbakanlık Osmanlı Arşivleri (the Ottoman Archives division of the Prime Minister's Office) in Istanbul fully opened its doors to scholars regardless of their nationality or subject of research. The Ottoman Empire's central state archives originally consisted of two groups of documents: the records of the Imperial Council and of the Grand Vizier's office. From time to time, the state added other collections, for example, the records of the finance departments and the Cadastral Survey Office. The government registers include copies of the texts of imperial orders and decrees sent to provincial officials and judges and replies to reports from across the empire. They relate to questions of law and order, state revenues, military arrangements, foreign relations, administrative assignments, and other matters submitted for the sultan's consideration. Survey registers of rural and urban populations and their production convey figures and other information collected for administrative purposes. Likewise, there are specific registers dealing with the non-Muslim peoples of the Ottoman Empire, such as church registers and registers concerning other non-Muslim communities (millets). These run through World War I and contain valuable information on the question of Turkish-Armenian relations.[4]
There are approximately 150 million documents that span every period and region of the Ottoman realm in the stacks and vaults of the Ottoman Archives. Each day, new collections in these Ottoman archives are opened to researchers. All these extensive records are well preserved and organized.
The first published catalog of Ottoman archival holdings appeared in 1955 and consisted of ninety pages of archival inventory and commentary.[5] Archivist Attila Çetin followed in 1979 with a more extensive catalog, which is also available in Italian.[6] As the classifying and organizing of the archives continued, the catalog grew. The 1992 edition is 634 pages long. The expanded 1995 compilation provides access to even more documents. Revised editions are to be forthcoming from time to time, as more detailed descriptions become available for the various fonds or individual record groups.[7]
Ottoman archival documentation constitutes an unequaled trove of information about how people lived from the fifteenth through the early twentieth centuries in a territory now comprised of twenty-two nations. İlber Ortaylı, director of the Topkapı Palace Museum at Istanbul, argues that the history of the Ottoman Empire should not be written without Ottoman sources.[8] He is not alone in this. His position is buttressed by a number of specialists in the study of the Ottoman state and society. Albert Hourani, for example, the late British scholar of Middle Eastern affairs, argued that his best advice to history students considering Middle East specialization would be to "learn Ottoman Turkish well and learn also how to use Ottoman documents, since the exploitation of Ottoman archives, located in Istanbul and in smaller cities and towns, is perhaps the most important task of the next generation."[9]
The Archives and the Armenians
There are few comprehensive sources about Armenian life in Anatolia outside of Ottoman archival sources. Diplomatic records, such as those cited by Armenian historian Vahakn Dadrian, as the basis for discussions among genocide scholars are spotty and intertwined with wartime politics.[10] The Ottoman Ministry of the Interior (Dahiliye Nezareti) was the government department directing and supervising the relocation and resettlement of the Armenian population. The collection of the ministry documents covers the period from 1866 to 1922 and consists of 4,598 registers or notebooks. It is classified according to twenty-one subcollections, according to office of origin. Among the available documents in the Ottoman archives are several dozen registers containing the records of the deliberations and actions of the Council of Ministers, which set policies, received reports, and discussed problems that arose regarding the relocations and other wartime events. The minutes of its meetings, deliberations, resolutions, and decisions are bound in 224 volumes covering the years 1885 through 1922. These registers include each and every decree pertaining to the decision to relocate the Ottoman Armenians away from the war zones during World War I. The Records Office of the Sublime Porte (Babıali Evrak Odası) also contains substantial documentation, including the correspondence between the grand vizier and the ministries, as well as the central government and the provinces that can illuminate the events of 1915.[11]
It is ironic, therefore, as politicians seek to deliberate on questions of history, that few historians investigating Armenian issues have actually consulted the Ottoman archives. As Australian historian Jeremy Salt has explained,
The Ottoman archives remain largely unconsulted. When so much is missing from the fundamental source material, no historical narrative can be called complete and no conclusions can be balanced. If the Ottoman sources are properly utilized, the way in which the Armenian question is understood is bound to change.[12]
There is little explanation as to why more historians do not consult the Ottoman archives. They are open to all scholars. Bernard Lewis, Cleveland Dodge Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who has worked extensively in the Ottoman archives since 1949, has argued that "the Ottoman archives are in the care of a competent and devoted staff who are always willing to place their time and knowledge at the disposal of the visiting scholar, with a personal helpfulness and courtesy that will surprise those with purely Western experience. [These records] are open to all who can read them."[13] The late Stanford Shaw, Professor Emeritus of Turkish and Judeo-Turkish History at the University of California, Los Angeles, also spoke highly of the helpfulness of the archivists.[14] He argued that the sheer amount of new material available removed any excuse for any scholar investigating various nationalist revolts not to spend time examining the new sources.[15]
Even Taner Akçam of University of Minnesota, one of the most vocal proponents of Armenian genocide claims, noted the improvement in the working conditions of the archives. In a recent article, he thanked the staff and especially the deputy director-general of state archives for their help and openness during his last visit.[16] The archivists are now helpful to all researchers, not only those pursuing research which supports the Turkish government's line.
Turkish Military Archives
The archives of the Turkish General Staff Military History and Strategic Studies Directorate in Ankara (Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Genelkurmay Askeri Tarih ve Stratejik Etüt Başkanlığı Arşivleri) provide a military perspective. Indeed, more than the Ottoman Archives in the Prime Minister's Office, this repository provides a rich trove of information about internal conditions in the empire, operations of the Ottoman army, and the Special Organization (Teşkilat-ı Mahsusa), somewhat equivalent to the Ottoman special forces, for the period 1914-22.[17]
The World War I and War of Independence archives alone number over five and a half million documents spread among Turkish General Staff Division reports and War Ministry files. Division 1 (Operations) contains military operations plans and orders, operations and situation reports, maps and overlays, general staff orders, mobilization instructions and orders, organizational orders, training and exercise instructions, spot combat reports. Division 2 (Intelligence) contains intelligence estimates and reports and orders of battle. Divisions 3 and 4 (Logistics) contain files concerning procurement, animals, munitions, transportation, rations, and accounting. The Ministry of War files contain the General Command's ciphered cables to military units as well as the papers of the infantry, fortress artillery, and other divisions. Vehip Pasha's Third Army (Erzurum), Jemal Pasha's Fourth Army (Damascus), and Ali İhsan Pasha's Sixth Army (Baghdad) are included among the staff files. These also include the Lightning Armies and Caucasian Armies groups.[18]
The cataloging and microfilming of the military archives repository up to the end of 1922 is complete. Once-secret documents should provide new information on the Armenian issue.[19] In addition to the microfilmed documents, the Turkish General Staff Military History and Strategic Studies Directorate publishes volumes of documents from its collection, including Latin alphabet transliteration of all documents.[20]
Justin McCarthy, professor of Middle Eastern history and demographer at the University of Louisville/Kentucky, one of the few Western scholars to have done systematic research in the Ottoman archives, has written that the "reports of Ottoman soldiers and officials were not political documents or public relations exercises. They were secret internal reports in which responsible men relayed to their governments what they believed to be true."[21] Indeed, the military records have already called into question conventional wisdom about the Special Organization, namely, the organization's involvement in the Armenian relocations. [22]
Other Ankara Resources
The Turkish Historical Society (Türk Tarih Kurumu) at Ankara is also open to the public. The society houses private collections relating to strategy and political matters in the twentieth century, which include the papers of World War I-era war minister Enver Pasha together with those of his chief aide-de-camp and brother-in-law, Kazım Orbay. The Enver Pasha collection, donated in 1972 by his daughter Mahpeyker Enver, consists of 789 single, disparate items of handwritten notes, memoranda, reports, military records, cards and invitations, dispatches, letters of appreciation of colleagues and opponents, photographic albums, topographic maps, charts, private correspondence, diaries, and miscellany for the period 1914-22. There are no restrictions on access to these.[23] Because in the early decades of the twentieth century it was customary for officials to keep their papers upon their departure, these remain a relatively rare resource. Orbay's papers add additional insight because they enable historians to gauge which issues most occupied the Ottoman Empire's highest ranking military official of the time. Few scholars have used this last collection perhaps because they remain unaware of it.[24]
The National Library (Milli Kütüphane) at Ankara houses thousands of Muslim court records, most of which were transferred from local museums and offices scattered around Turkey. These records contain a vast array of information concerning imperial administration, city government, the affairs of townspeople and villagers and deal with almost every aspect of the lives of the subjects be it personal status, taxes, loans, sales, price regulations, complaints, flight, or theft. Any matter requiring official resolution, registration, verification, or adjudication was potentially the domain of the Muslim judge (kadı) even when the matters applied to non-Muslims, such as Armenian Christians.[25] Many Turkish historians have employed Muslim court records extensively for Anatolian regional studies, but they remain relatively untapped by Armenian historians.[26]
Armenian Archives
Sole reference to Ottoman archives will not and should not satisfy historians; a full study of the Armenians during World War I should consider material from all sides in a conflict. The Armenian community maintains a number of archives. The archives in Watertown, Massachusetts, contain repositories from the Dashnak Party (Dashnaksutiun, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation) and the First Republic of Armenia. Both of the above together with the archives of the Armenian patriarchate in Jerusalem and the Catholicosate, the seat of the supreme religious leader of the Armenian people, in Echmiadzin, Armenia, remain closed to non-Armenian researchers. Tatul Sonentz-Papazian, Dashnakist archivist, for example, denied İnönü University scholar Göknur Akçadağ access to the Watertown archives in a June 20, 2008 letter. Dashnaksutiun archives are also not available to those Armenians who do not tow the party line. Historian Ara Sarafian, director of the Gomidas Institute in London, complained that "some Armenian archives in the diaspora are not open to researchers for a variety of reasons. The most important ones are the Jerusalem Patriarchate archives. I have tried to access them twice and [been] turned away. The other archives are the Zoryan Institute archives, composed of the private papers of Armenian survivors, whose families deposited their records with the Zoryan Institute in the 1980s. As far as I know, these materials are still not cataloged and accessible to scholars."[27] Beyond the closure of Armenian archives to non-Armenian and even to some Armenian scholars, few of these allow the public to access catalogs detailing their holdings.
Many scholars writing on the Armenian question utilize Britain's National Archives (formerly the Public Record Office) in Kew Gardens. While the British government has made available many of their diplomats' reports for study, much material from the British occupation of Istanbul (1919-22) and elsewhere in Anatolia following World War I remains closed to researchers under the Official Secrets Act and are only partially available in the archives of the government of India in Delhi. British authorities say they remain sealed for national security reasons. Their release should be important to historians as they will include evidence regarding returning Armenian refugees and other related matters. Files of the British Eastern Mediterranean Special Intelligence Bureau also remain closed, perhaps because the British government does not wish to expose those who may have committed espionage on behalf of Britain. These are important because they should enable historians to research British espionage and sabotage, demoralizing propaganda, and attempts to provoke treason and desertion from Ottoman ranks during and immediately after 1914-18. The documents of the Secret Office of War Propaganda, which under the direction of Lord James Bryce and Arnold Toynbee developed propaganda used against the Central Powers during World War I, also remain sealed. Their opening will allow historians to assess whether British officials in the heat of war created or exaggerated accounts of deliberate atrocities.
An International Historians' Commission
History cannot be decided by politicians weighing either constituent concerns or emotions more than evidence. Nor should the debate on history be closed while the existing narrative utilizes only a small portion of the source material. The same holds true not only for Armenian historians but also for their Turkish counterparts and others.
Rather, historians should work together to consider all source material, both in Armenian and Turkish archives. Each should be open fully. Cherry-picking documents to "prove" preconceived ideas and to ignore documents that undercut theses is poor history and, in a politicized atmosphere, can do far more harm than good.
On April 10, 2005, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan extended an invitation to Armenian president Robert Kocharian to establish a joint commission consisting of historians and other experts to study the developments and events of 1915, not only in the archives of Turkey and Armenia but also in those of relevant third countries such as Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the United States, and to share their findings with the public.[28] Ninety-seven members of the Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly at Strasbourg signed a declaration calling on Armenia to accept the Turkish proposal.[29] In his annual commemoration message to the Armenian-American community in 2005, President George W. Bush expressed support for Turkey's proposal, declaring, "We look to a future of freedom, peace, and prosperity in Armenia and Turkey and hope that Prime Minister Erdoğan's recent proposal for a joint Turkish-Armenian commission can help advance these processes."[30] Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reiterated the point two years later, telling Congress,
I think that these historical circumstances require a very detailed and sober look from historians. And what we've encouraged the Turks and the Armenians to do is to have joint historical commissions that can look at this, to have efforts to examine their past, and in examining their past to get over their past.[31]
It is unfortunate that the Armenian government has failed to accept the joint commission, for without joint consideration of all evidence, the wounds of the past will not heal and, indeed, when an incomplete narrative enters the political realm, the consequences can be grave.
Yücel Güçlü is first counselor at the Turkish Embassy in Washington, D.C. The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Turkey.

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North Korea Islamism and the Axis of Nuclear Proliferation

2009-04-09T18:00:00.002+10:00

by Brigitte Gabriel

While President Obama recently made a commendable effort to “connect” with the Islamic world, especially during his visit to Turkey, he went perilously too far by saying things that simply are not accurate and thus should not have been said.

For example: Obama said: "We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better..."

I can understand why Obama would not want to say, “1,400 years of Islam has resulted in 270 million deaths and countless millions enslaved.” But such a history hardly qualifies as “shaping the world for the better,” and he would have been advised to simply not make such a historically unsupportable statement.

Obama also said that he wants to “strengthen Ataturk's vision of democratic Turkey.” What Mr. Obama needs to thus say to the Muslim world is remind them what Ataturk’s vision was – a vision which ended the Islamic Empire in 1924, rebelled against Islam and its Sharia law, and gave women rights to vote, to get an education, to work, etc. It was Ataturk's vision that put the last nail in the coffin of the Islamic empire, ending centuries of murder and terrorism. It was because of Ataturk's action that the Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt five years later, to reclaim and revive the Islamic Empire and setting the course for present-day Islamism. The Muslim Brotherhood is now the oldest and largest terrorist organization in the world, boasting 70 offshoots including Al-Qaida.

While Obama eloquently stated that America is not at war with Islam, which was necessary to speak with such clarity, it was important to continue by saying: "However, we are all challenged today by Islamist radicalism that has declared war, not only on America but also on moderate, peace-loving Muslims. Islamism, or the ideology of political Islam, threatens the entire world, including the millions of Muslims who don’t adhere to it, and it is growing in strength with every passing day.” Attempting to disconnect terror and radicalism from the political ideology that underlies it is precisely what Western Europe and Great Britain have tried, without success.

Obama missed a great opportunity to challenge the moderate Muslim world to stand up with us against the Islamists who wish to destroy not only our way of life but change the political landscape in their own countries through overthrow of their leadership and their governments.

Such an outreach by Obama would have created solidarity between moderate Muslims and America, because moderate Muslims are more likely to hear and respect what Obama says due to his Islamic heritage. This was Obama’s opportunity to make a statement that could have set the stage for real and historic change, but sadly, he missed it.

Meanwhile, North Korea conducts another missile launch, which has enormous ramifications for the world’s ability to defeat Islamism. North Korea is doing more than manufacture nuclear weapons for itself. North Korea's business is selling arms technology to the cash-rich Arab nations who provide it with the cash it so desperately needs.

A few years ago North Korea supplied Syria with the nuclear reactor that Israel bombed in September 2007. North Korean engineers were killed and many injured at the Syrian facility during the Israeli bombing.

On another Islamist front Iran is clearly set on attacking Israel and America. Iran is very interested in buying the North Korean missile technology which they can then deliver an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) attack against America. So while North Korea may not attack us directly, its technology is what our die-hard enemies are going to use to destroy us.

The United Nations has proven to be virtually impotent in dealing with such serious issues. Saddam Hussein ignored UN sanctions, North Korea ignores the UN, and Iran marches on, ignoring UN sanctions. The United States needs to take a bold step to disrupt the “nuclear proliferation axis” that exists between North Korea and the militant nations of the Islamic world.

We can and should go directly to China and ask them how would they feel if we made nuclear and missile technology available to Japan and Taiwan? We can exert great pressure on China in this area because those two nations are a major threat to China if we make our technology available to them.

This will give China a vested interest in pressuring North Korea to stop their missile program. What we are concerned about right now is the political victory that North Korea has achieved with this launch. Even though this was not a military victory because the launch was not successful to the point they expected, it achieved a political victory against America.

This message is not being wasted on Iran and other nations, like Syria and Libya for example, who are trying to stand up to the United States. America is establishing a clear track record of “no-response.” In 2006 Kaddafi, who signed an agreement in 2003 to get rid of his 30 tons of mustard gas, reneged on the contract and changed his mind after watching America's lack of decisive action against Iran.

North Korea is so dangerous because its missiles could carry a nuclear warhead to America or it could continue to provide the technology to other nations wanting to harm America. In other words, the nuclear threat to America and the West will continue to escalate beyond North Korea to Islamist regimes unless we bring it to a screeching halt.

The clock is ticking ever closer to midnight.

Brigitte Gabriel is the New York Times Best Selling author of “They Must Be Stopped: Why We Must Defeat Radical Islam and How We Can Do It.” She is also the founder and president of ACT for America.org

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Afghan Reviews Rape Law Amid International Outcry

2009-04-09T17:23:00.002+10:00

By Ethan Cole
Christian Post Reporter
Tue, Apr. 07 2009 05:29 PM EDT

Afghan president Hamid Karzai’s spokesman said Tuesday that the controversial new law that would essentially allow husbands to rape their wife is under review following international outcry.
• In this March 8, 2009, Afghan women pray for justice and security of the country during a gathering to mark the International Women's Day in Kabul, Afghanistan. Human rights groups and some lawmakers criticized Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Thursday, April 2, 2009 for signing into law legislation that some believe legalizes the rape of a wife by her husband and prevents women from leaving the house without a man's permission.

“All the efforts that were made in the last seven years to enhance women’s rights will be undermined,” Kufi said to AP

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Journey to Israel.

2009-04-09T16:57:00.003+10:00

I am on a mission to learn about Israel. I have had some very helpful suggestions from FBook...Thanks Guys. I just want to really learn...well try to learn and understand... what it's all about. Why are so many countries turning against Israel as mention further in this article? Now Hussein is turning against Israel by wanting to confront 'Her' Prime Misnister. I would give just about anything to go on this upcoming tour to Israel, but unfortunately, it is just not possible financially. But I can and I will be making full use of my library. Learning from a few books that have been suggested as a place for me to start. I can't go on saying I support the cause without at least knowing some of the history - apart from Bible History and Christian stories I have read.

Happy Passover and epicenter update‏
Joel Rosenberg
Thursday, 9 April 2009
HAPPY PASSOVER -- AND AN EPICENTER CONFERENCE UPDATE

* Come with us to Israel and stand with the Jewish people
By Joel C. Rosenberg (Washington, D.C., April 8, 2009) --

"I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." (Exodus 20:2)

Lynn and the boys and I are celebrating Passover this year with our Joshua Fund team. As we do, we are rejoicing over how the Lord has delivered the Jewish people through so many trials in recent decades, and how He has miraculously and prophetically resurrected the State of Israel, as He had promised in the Scriptures to do in the "last days" of human history. We are also praying for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to deliver the children of Israel from rising new threats - this time from Iran and Radical Islam, not the Pharoah of Egypt.

Many nations around the world are turning against Israel at present. The Turkish Prime Minister recently called for Israel to be banned from the U.N. A Spanish court is considering trying Israeli military officials on "war crimes" charges for defending Israel from Hamas rocket attacks. Boycotts of Israeli goods and services are being called for around the world. And now comes this headline in a leading Israeli newspaper: "Obama team readying for confrontation with Netanyahu."

That said, we are not worried. The Lord who has been so faithful to the Jewish people from time immemorial will show His mighty hand once again. That was the theme of this year's Epicenter Conference, that we serve a great and mighty God, a prayer-hearing and a prayer-answering God, a God who loves Israel and will bless her. In my "State of the Epicenter" address on Saturday, I spoke from the Book of Esther about another time in history when the leader of Iran/Persia (King Xerxes) called for the annihilation of the Jewish people. It seemed hopeless. But as the Jews who really loved the Lord fasted and prayed and turned their hearts towards Him, the Lord heard their cries and sent a great deliverance through one man (Mordechai) and one woman (Hadassah/Esther) willing to serve Him even unto death. Will He not provide such a great deliverance again, as we turn our hearts towards Him and seek His face and ask Him to forgive us and heal us and draw us close to His heart?

We believe the Iran crisis provides a tremendous opportunity for the Church to stand with Israel and bless Israel and see the God of Israel do a mighty miracle. The Joshua Fund team, therefore, is committed to doing everything we possibly can to educate Christians around the world and mobilize a global movement of people who will bless Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus. This November 5-17, we will be a leading a Joshua Fund "Prayer & Vision Trip" to Israel, concluding with our first-ever "Jerusalem Prayer Summit." We would love to have you join us for this extraordinary opportunity to walk the land that Jesus walked, learn the history and the prophetic future of the Holy Land, meet Israeli pastors and Joshua Fund allies, and see how powerfully the God of Israel is moving today. Please pray about it and then, if the Lord gives you the green light, please join us on what will be an unforgettable experience.

EPICENTER CONFERENCE UPDATE:

* As more data are coming in, it appears that more than 20,000 people participated in person and on-line, not the 13,000 we first reported

* A total of 57 countries had people watching on-line

* A total of 92 churches in the U.S., Canada and Israel showed the conference to their congregations

* You can now pre-order CDs, DVDs and/or MP3s of the conference at www.epicenter09.com

[To read more of the update -- including an update from the 2009 Epicenter Conference on the keynote messages delivered by Lt.-General Jerry Boykin and Pastor Chuck Smith -- please click below]

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COME TO ISRAEL WITH US IN NOVEMBER
Dear Friends:

It is with great excitement over God's wonderful love and plan for Israel and the people of the epicenter that I invite you to join us for our next Joshua Fund "Prayer & Vision Trip." It will be held November 5-17, 2009, and culminate in our first-ever "Jerusalem Prayer Summit."

If you have never been to the Holy Land, it is hard to describe what a profound spiritual effect such a journey can have on you and your family. You may have heard others say God's Word seemed to "come alive" in a new way when they walked where Jesus walked, from the shores of Galilee to the Mount of Olives and into the streets of Jerusalem. Well, it's true, and I believe our 2009 Israel trip will allow you to experience this for yourself and intensify your desire to walk closely with Jesus Christ.

If you have been to Israel before, this trip will be a great opportunity to deepen your understanding of how powerfully the Lord is moving there. I will teach at key locations and answer your questions about the future of the epicenter. You will have the opportunity to meet with and pray for local pastors and ministry leaders. We are arranging for you to spend time engaged in a practical Joshua Fund ministry project to bless the poor and needy. What's more, you will participate in a two-day conference to pray for the peace of Jerusalem at this critical hour.

We can take up to 300 people, and to make your experience as personal and special as possible, you will be assigned to one of seven buses of about 45 people. Each bus will be hosted by a Joshua Fund staff or board member or couple, or one of our close allies. You will ride that bus with your host every day, and in the process you'll get to know the people on your bus, study the Bible with them, pray with and for them, discover Israel together with them, ask questions with them, and thus form a small community. Lord willing, I will rotate through the buses to get to know you and answer your questions. Each bus will also have a professional, licensed Israeli tour guide who know every detail of the country inside and out.

As always, we will do our best to keep you up-to-date on the kinds of projects we are doing, and brief you on how those projects are proceeding. We will also let you know about the kinds of projects we are developing for the future. In no way do we want to pressure anyone to give financially. We fully believe the Lord will provide for the needs of the people we seek to serve. But if you or others wish to help, we welcome your support, and all financial gifts are tax-deductible.

If you would like to make a contribution to the on-going work of The Joshua Fund please make your check payable to "The Joshua Fund" and send to:

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Thanks so much and may the Lord richly bless you and your family as you bless Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus -- especially at critical moment in history of the epicenter.

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Virtual IDF

2009-04-08T20:44:00.001+10:00

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Welcome to Israeli Defense Force on the web, virtual army defending Israel in the information war.

Not all of us are Israelis, not all of are Jewish, but we have one thing in common - we love Israel and protect its good name on the web.

Unfortunately, there are many people who know literally nothing, or very little about Israel, and then they see biased news, hear those who don't like Israel, and the very last thing they hear is what we have to say. This situation has to change, and we are here to change that.

We are here to protect the civilization from hatred and ignorance and to educate those who know little about Israel, and often all that they know about it is not even true.

Israel, we stand with you. We are your web soldiers.

This is from one of my contacts in FACEBOOK. I have added quite a few people from ISRAEL because I support Israel and the horrors they face on a daily basis. I do not know nearly as much as I ought to either, and it is with a sense of shame that I don’t. I suppose I have read the news on Israel & Gaza etc, but I have been somewhat focused on what is happening in the UK & USA & Canada and more importantly, my own back yard, Australia. It is certainly a lot to take in considering I have a life away from the computer and books to read on the subject of terrorism and jihad and islam by noted authors.
Some days there is just not enough time to do all the things I would like to do and time seems to go too darn quickly.
Anyway, have a read of this and go to the links to learn a bit more. Go to the facebook groups to join the cause of supporting Israel and maybe a few others like no more child soldiers.

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PEOPLE, YOU CAN USE THIS TEXT AND PUT IT OUT ON DIFFERENT GROUPS, INCLUDING ARAB GROUPS. JUST COPY-PASTE IT AND PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO INCLUDE MY NAME, TOO. :) I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE. THANK YOU!
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HAMAS TRIES TO CREATE AN IMPRESSION THAT ISRAEL IS ATTACKING CIVILIANS

Here is an interview with a leading specialist in international law Dr. Robbie Sabel, he is a former legal advisor for MFA.

- Is Israeli action in Gaza legitimate?
- Every state has the right of self-defense. That’s what Israel is doing – it is aiming only at military targets and it is acting in accordance with the rules of international law. In any war civilians are liable to be hurt. But Israel has taken extraordinary measures to limit civil casualties by sending warnings before attacking military targets, losing the element of surprise, but enabling civilians to escape from the target before the attack. Even when civilians remain deliberately in military targets, nevertheless, Israel tries to minimize civil casualties. One should add however that Hamas deliberately aims at Israeli civilian targets.

- Is Hamas action against Israel legitimate?
- According to the international law force can only be used in self-defense and only against military targets. Hamas is acting illegally in violation of both of these rules. It has been shelling Israeli civilian towns without any provocation.

- How legitimate was it to eliminate Sheikh Nizan Rayyan?
- In an armed conflict it is legitimate to target enemy military commanders but not civilian leadership. Israel has aimed its attack only against those Hamas leaders who have a command rule in military activities.

- Is it legitimate to bomb Hamas objects situated close to civilian buildings and public places like mosques and schools?
- The rule of international law states that if military target is not immune because it is placed near civilians, the attacking army must take effort to minimize the civilian casualties and to insure that any civilian casualties are proportionate to the military advantage to be gained by destroying the target.

- Is Israeli action in Gaza proportionate?
- Israel takes every possible measure to prevent disproportionate civilian casualties and in fact in many occasions has stopped military attacks in the middle when it found out that there will be heavy civilian casualties. Israel is one of the few armies in the world that uses legal advisors before attacking in order to make sure that the attack will be legal and that there will be no disproportional civilian casualties.

- Can actions undertaken by Israel in Gaza be referred as Holocaust?
- This is a pure example of propaganda. They themselves admit that 80% of the casualties have been Hamas fighters. This percentage is probably higher because the Hamas tries to create an impression that Israel is attacking civilians.

© Roman Yanushevsky 2009

PEOPLE, YOU CAN USE THIS TEXT AND PUT IT OUT ON DIFFERENT GROUPS, INCLUDING ARAB GROUPS. JUST COPY-PASTE IT AND PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO INCLUDE MY NAME, TOO. :) I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE. THANK YOU!
© Roman Yanushevsky 2009

I noticed that when there are words "truth" and "Gaza" put in one sentence, usually all of it is lies about fake and imaginary Israeli atrocities. I want to change that stereotype and to start to speak up the REAL TRUTH.

Let's make it clear about what is going on in Gaza, what led to this and why it happened. Enough of lies!

Today early in the morning military operation of Israeli Defense Force against Hamas military objects in Gaza has started. A few groups were created in the Facebook that called this action a "Ghaza Holocaust". Without taking in account the moral aspect of calling anything Holocaust (people who call anything that they disagree with "Holocaust" either don't know what they are talking about, or lie) I feel that there is a need to show the truth about what is going on in Gaza today. Here is why:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=563757240#/event.php?eid=41717048004&ref=mf
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=41717048004&ref=mf

NOONE is killing Gaza people on purpose, IDF is hunting for HAMAS only and trying to do its work in a most precise way as possible trying not to hit civilian objects or people. And it did succeed to a large extent to do it. Most of the 225 dead reported by now are HAMAS officials, soldiers or policemen.

The operation has started after years of HAMAS shooting at Israeli cities like Sderot, Ashkelon and others - non-military objects. Until this morning the humanitarian supply to Gaza continued in spite of heavy rocket attacks by HAMAS in the last days. On Thursday Israeli prime minister spoke on Palestinian radio and warned once again that Israel would have to take an action if rocket assaults continue. They did. Here is the result - Israel attacks HAMAS military objects and infrastructure related to it.

Even if you don't agree with my view, just take a look at the pictures. They tell better than words.

I call to everyone who cares and for whom it is important to know the truth, spread it to all of your friends. Thank you.

Did Israel Use "Disproportionate Force" in Gaza?

Dore Gold

* Israeli population centers in southern Israel have been the target of over 4,000 rockets, as well as thousands of mortar shells, fired by Hamas and other organizations since 2001. Rocket attacks increased by 500 percent after Israel withdrew completely from the Gaza Strip in August 2005. During an informal six-month lull, some 215 rockets were launched at Israel.

* The charge that Israel uses disproportionate force keeps resurfacing whenever it has to defend its citizens from non-state terrorist organizations and the rocket attacks they perpetuate. From a purely legal perspective, Israel's current military actions in Gaza are on solid ground. According to international law, Israel is not required to calibrate its use of force precisely according to the size and range of the weaponry used against it.

* Ibrahim Barzak and Amy Teibel wrote for the Associated Press on December 28 that most of the 230 Palestinians who were reportedly killed were "security forces," and Palestinian officials said "at least 15 civilians were among the dead." The numbers reported indicate that there was no clear intent to inflict disproportionate collateral civilian casualties. What is critical from the standpoint of international law is that if the attempt has been made "to minimize civilian damage, then even a strike that causes large amounts of damage - but is directed at a target with very large military value - would be lawful."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

* Luis Moreno-Orampo, the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, explained that international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court "permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives, even when it is known that some civilian deaths or injuries will occur." The attack becomes a war crime when it is directed against civilians (which is precisely what Hamas does).

* After 9/11, when the Western alliance united to collectively topple the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, no one compared Afghan casualties in 2001 to the actual numbers that died from al-Qaeda's attack. There clearly is no international expectation that military losses in war should be on a one-to-one basis. To expect Israel to hold back in its use of decisive force against legitimate military targets in Gaza is to condemn it to a long war of attrition with Hamas.

for the full text see
Jerusalem Issue Brief. Institute for Contemporary Affairs founded jointly with the Wechsler Family Foundation.
Vol. 8, No. 16 28 December 2008

(The following are but a few of the links supplied but there are many links to investigate for various stories and articles of truth dispelling the propaganda, I have only included a few of the many links.. I urge you to look at the evidence supplied and judge for yourself. And please, stop being taken in by all the propaganda being put out. Christian Nanna)

IDF spokesperson:
http://idfspokesperson.com/

Israel's actions in Gaza is an act of self-defense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMjSoUEysQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZxYQ5VdLC4

Blog describing personal experience what it is like to live in Sderot, very expressive!
http://sderotmovie.com/blog/

Son of Hamas leader gives glimpse into terror organization:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,475226,00.html

Children of Gaza:
http://childrenofgaza.blogspot.com/

Hamas propaganda:
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ruA5bzVoo&feature=related

Palestinian doctor lost three daughters and a niece allegedly from Israeli fire, here is what really happened:
http://krishna109.newsvine.com/_news/2009/01/18/2327587-palestinian-doctors-daughter-may-have-pieces-of-grad-rocket-in-her-head-

Here is what is going on these days here on the facebook and here is what we resist:
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/12/online-jihadist.html
This is the main reason for creating this group.

Here is another group: "The world deserves to know the truth. Israel has the full right to defend itself"
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51922567078&ref=mf

Virtual IDF
Global
Basic Info

Welcome to Israeli Defense Force on the web, virtual army defending Israel in the information war.

Not all of us are Israelis, not all of are Jewish, but we have one thing in common - we love Israel and protect its good name on the web.

Unfortunately, there are many people who know literally nothing, or very little about Israel, and then they see biased news, hear those who don't like Israel, and the very last thing they hear is what we have to say. This situation has to change, and we are here to change that.

We are here to protect the civilization from hatred and ignorance and to educate those who know little about Israel, and often all that they know about it is not even true.

Israel, we stand with you. We are your web soldiers.

Here are some related groups that you might want to join:

The truth about 'Ghaza Holocaust'
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=46177167562&ref=ts

The world deserves to know the truth. Israel has a full right for defense
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51922567078&ref=mf

I Support the Israel Defense Forces In Preventing Terror Attacks From Gaza
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=69810300128

We support Zionism
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=57669457315&ref=ts

I Support Israel in the War Against Terrorism
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2208363470

A New World Order on it’s way???

2009-04-06T12:27:00.002+10:00

This article from The Daily Reckoning really got my stomach churning, and I haven't got a mortgage, thank God..
I speak to many people and most of them are families with young children and a mortgage hanging over them. Insurance for the house is a must when it's a mortgage and the majority of people have the breadwinnner-man of the family insured for his life so the wife and children will have the house paid off. However, as I speak to them I ask if they also have the husband's 'wages' insured or the 'mortgage' insured, and I can't tell you how many blank looks I get...Oh we can't afford those extras...is the usual mantra I hear. I respond with something like, well what if hubby were to break his leg or come down with a serious/terminal illness...what would happen to the mortgage payments?...I tell them that when my nephew had his wages insured a few years back, he had a very serious car accident and was totally incapacitated, HOWEVER, he did get his insurance payments equivalent to what he was earning and this was on top of the RTA -Road Traffic Accident -compensation payments. He was fully able to continue supporting his wife and children and the home.
My fear with all of this is that it's so much easier for sharia banking to take a hold of our economies. So many people will go for their loans of low interest etc. I do not agree with the Govt bailing out these mortgage holders, as I really believe they (the mortgagees)should spend that little bit extra on insuring their mortgage which will cover the repayment loans for 9-12 months or wages insurance which will cover for 1-2 years. I realise that life is tough enough as it is without extra expense but isn't it time people started taking a real responsibility for themselves instead of always expecting the governments to bail them out and keep them afloat....However, having said that, I also understand that the governments are not doing this out of the goodness of their dear little black hearts. It is a way to keep people in prison as the DailyR suggests.
I could go one further and suggest that this dollar business, the bailouts, the sharia banking etc. has been one long planned for scheme (conspiracy) by the islamists themselves and they have been pulling the strings of the stupid little puppets that are known as the rulers of countries, the governments themselves. Talk about stealth...they sure do have patience and are willing to have long-term plans and we already know of the population jihad, the arson jihad, and every other jihad that is in the making or has been put into place over the years. Someone once suggested to me that they had a 100 year plan, and we are about half way through it and it is becoming more evident each and every day.

This is all affecting us Australians as well and mrkrudd is in the thick of it.

Just because Australia is not specifically mentioned does not mean we will not be affected by all of this. WE WILL BE AND WE ARE. Make no mistake about it. And for those that think we here in Oz will be safe and not affected by what happens Internationally, may I suggest you just go and stick your collective heads in your collective buckets of sand. But don't start screaming that you were not warned, that the signs were not there.
READ ON:

A New World Order on it’s way???
Bill Bonner in London, England:
April 6th 2009

In London, last night:

"You weren't here today," began the cab driver. "You missed the excitement. You know, the G20 meeting. They held it here in London...

"Some lads got out of control. They smashed a window over at the Royal Bank of Scotland, and then broke up the computers and so forth...

"Nothing very important, but the media makes a big thing of it. They kept talking about that G20 meeting - as if they were going to change the whole world - New World Order and all that...but what could they change? These hotshots at the banks took some bad bets. Now they've got to pay for them. What's all the fuss about?"

Clearly, our cab driver should go back to school. He could study macroeconomics and learn about counter-cyclical fiscal stimulus...and the multiplier effect...and the need to restore liquidity to the financial sector. Then, he could be spouting the same claptrap as other commentators. He could get on board with the plans to save capitalism from...well, from capitalism! It's all very well for the capitalists to make money, he will discover, but when they begin to lose it, well government has to step in and bail them out. The "creative" part of capitalism is fine...but spare us the destruction, okay.

Yesterday, the heads of state of the world's 20 leading countries decided to put more muscle into their efforts to stop capitalism's downswing. Notably, they decided to treble the budget of the IMF. In all, today's International Herald Tribune tells us it's a "One Trillion Dollar Deal."

Gordon Brown pronounced it a "New World Order," which sounds a lot like what George Bush I was aiming for 15 years ago. One world government. One multi-national police force. Harmonized tax collection. (No more tax havens...nowhere to run...nowhere to hide...) Keep the masses happy with bread and circuses...and "wars" against imaginary and unnecessary enemies. (The War on Terror and now - the War on Depression.)

Hey, maybe we'll all have to speak Esperanto, too...

But at least now the IMF will be about to bailout more bankrupt governments before it goes broke itself.

Most of the money is coming from a country that doesn't have any: the U.S.A.

Look up. What do you see? Why, it's our Dollar Crash Flag. The dollar's days are numbered. What's the number? We don't know. But whatever it was a week ago, it is a smaller number now.

Yesterday, the dollar gave up a little ground. The euro rose to $1.24. Oil went up to $52. Gold, however, fell hard - down to $904. Gold stocks, on the other hand, did rather well.

Hugo Chavez was in the Mideast this week at a meeting of oil producers. He called for a new petro-currency...which, we suppose, is a currency backed by oil. The Associated Press:

"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez sought Arab support Tuesday for a proposed oil-backed currency to challenge the U.S. dollar in his latest swipe at Washington's dominance in global financial affairs."

He probably won't get very far with that. But he's not the only one looking for a solution to a crisis that hasn't happened yet.

That's the real New World Order...the United States will find it harder to stay in the driver's seat of this bus...and the U.S. currency will no longer give Americans an automatic ticket to the first class section... Americans have lost their jobs."

AND THIS:

Obama assured the nation that America would be the leader in car manufacturing. Alas, it is probably not to be.

Why are Americans broke? Because they had the world's strongest economy and the world's most trusted money. As a result, everybody wanted to lend them money.

Find out why….

Why are the Chinese sitting on the biggest pile of money on earth? Because they had to live under one of the worst governments in history...because they were starving only a few years ago...and because nobody would lend them any money.

To read the rest of this story, go to The Daily Reckoning Page…link in rightside bar. www.dailyreckoning.com

World wide persection of Christians

2009-04-03T13:24:00.003+11:00

Bulletin of Christian Persecution March 31‏
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I have just purchased a blow-up footbath that I can take on my travels to soak my tired aching feet....I suggest all muslims wishing to wash their feet before prayer that they purchase one instead of expecting the Australian tax-payers to always be supplying their needs. As for special prayer rooms and extra prayer times in the work place and universities, this is just getting beyond the joke.

America
March 17, 2009

Washington, DC
Obama is backing off from his campaign pledge to declare that 1.5 million Armenians were the victims of genocide in Ottoman Turkey.
March 17, 2009

Fairfax, Virginia
A Saudi Islamic school has unsuccessfully revised its textbooks after facing criticisms that the texts promote murder and hatred of Christians and Jews. The texts remain "toxic."
March 19, 2009

Washington, DC
Both Turkey and the US seek to avert tensions during Obama's April 5 visit by playing down potential backlash from a renewed attempt by US lawmakers to declare the murders of Armenians by Ottoman Turks genocide.
March 19, 2009

Fairfax County, Virginia
Fairfax County residents and advocates resisted the Islamic Saudi Academy's expansion and contended with a "bullying mob." (Video ).
March 20 2009

Fairfax County, Virginia
Rep. Frank Wolf calls the State Department's inaction in response to his seven letters asking for an investigation into "very anti-Semitic, anti-Christian and pretty hate-filled" textbooks at two Islamic Saudi schools in Northern Virginia "inexcusable."
March 24, 2009

Fairfax County, Virginia
Double standards abound regarding the way an Islamic school and a Christian school are treated by the County Board of Supervisors.
March 27, 2009

Washington, DC
Obama's nominee for 7th Circuit Federal Judge, David Hamilton, forbade Indiana's House of Representatives from permitting "sectarian" prayers to be offered as part of official proceedings. Prayers that "use Christ's name or title" are sectarian, but not Muslim prayers to "Allah."
March 27, 2009

Washington, DC
Congressman Frank Wolf sent a strongly-worded letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regarding the perilous situation of Assyrians in Iraq.
Africa
March 14, 2009

Elbeyba village, Egypt
Muslim villagers are hounding their Coptic neighbors and the police, authorities, and hospital are complicit. The arrests and assaults stemmed from a family buying a house and obtaining a license for renewal and replacement.
March 15, 2009

Aswan, Egypt
The defendant in a murder case yelled "Get the infidels out of the courtroom!" during the trial, in reference to the family of the victim.
March 16, 2009

Egypt
An Egyptian lawyer has filed a lawsuit against the Minister of the Interior in order to try to gain legal acceptance for Christian reverts. The legal process of converting to Christianity is much more difficult than converting to Islam.
March 16, 2009

Egypt
The Coptic Youth of the Nation put out a press release for their Arabic-language film which shows the abuses suffered by Copts in Egypt. The film can be viewed here (part one) and here (part two).
March 16, 2009

Nigeria
Dutch MPs warn that Nigeria will become Islamic soon, resulting in hundreds of millions of refugees, mostly Christian. "Already, in twelve of the 36 states of Nigeria, Sharia has already become the law."
March 17, 2009

Egypt
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's statements during her first visit to Egypt were taken as encouragement by the Mubarak regime to kill more Egyptian Copts. "Afterwards, the regime didn't waste time, and immediately committed more crimes of killing Christian Copts."
March 18, 2009

Egypt
A lawyer for a US couple jailed in Egypt in an adoption case says that Egypt needs to pass a law allowing Christian families to adopt, as they are currently forced to do it in secret because Islamic law disallows the practice.
March 18, 2009

South Kordofan, Sudan
The expulsion of NGOs following Bashir's arrest is causing a humanitarian crisis where a refugee camp is located to aid those who were displaced by the Ugandan Lord's Resistance Army (from Sudan Radio Service ).
March 18, 2009

Egypt
The Coptic Church has accused an Arab Fiction Prize winner of attempting to destroy Christian doctrine, in addition to plagiarizing British novelist Charles Kingsley.
March 19, 2009

Yaounde, Cameroon
A Cameroon university center has expressed concern at the growing influence of Wahhabite Muslims. Father Krzysztof Zielenda says that political authorities are all that are maintaining harmony between Christians and Muslims.
March 19, 2009

Shobra al-Khayma, Egypt
A woman who filed an assault complaint at a police station was tortured and abused. She and her family have received death threats and are the targets of an harassment and intimidation campaign to make her rescind her later complaints of torture.
March 20, 2009

Al-Khosous, Egypt
A Muslim woman sought the help of a police chief to try to marry an already-married Coptic man. The police arrested his entire family, beat them, and sexually assaulted the man's wife in front of him.
March 20, 2009

Asmara, Eritrea
Three Christian men in their 80s were released from a military prison camp police facility. "There are some 360 prisoners held in Mitire [the prison camp], many of them in underground prisons or shipping containers, without enough food and medical care."
March 20, 2009

Sudan
The expulsion of 16 aid groups could worsen tenuous North-South relations. Update March 24 : The Netherlands will extend its UN peacekeeping mission for a year in order to help maintain stability.
March 21, 2009

Egypt
A member of the International Society for Human Rights in Germany has written an open letter to the president of Egypt regarding a priest who is imprisoned on charges of forging documents because he unknowingly performed a wedding ceremony between a Christian man and a Christian convert.
March 22, 2009

Egypt
The US State Department's human rights report stressed that the Egyptian government's respect for freedom of the press and religious freedom declined last year. "The report placed Egypt at the forefront in human rights abuse."
March 22, 2009

Alexandria, Egypt
A Coptic bishop ordained two twin boys as deacons, in defiance of their court-mandated Islamization. The boys' Islam-convert father was granted custody last year, and their mother contested it.
March 24, 2009

Egypt
A Coptic mother was arrested because she exposed government fraud in a lawsuit filed against the Minister of the Interior, which registered her two Coptic children as Muslims.
March 24, 2009

Cairo, Egypt
Blogger Karim Amer's imprisonment is a violation of international law, according to UN experts.
March 25, 2009

Madagascar
Pentecostal missionaries were evacuated to Nairobi, Kenya on the recommendation of the US State Department when Madagascar underwent a military coup.
March 25, 2009

Egypt
The head of the Egyptian Federation for Human Rights calls on Egyptian Christians to protest and strike in order to obtain their legitimate rights.
March 26, 2009

Luxor, Egypt
Representatives of the Egyptian Union Organization for Human Rights will visit the prime minister to hand over a complaint against the high chief of the city council, who stole land which was owned by the Coptic Orthodox Bishopric of Luxor.
March 26, 2009

Eritrea
Thousands of Christians are believed to be imprisoned in military prisons, labor camps, and in shipping containers in the open desert.
Asia
March 1, 2009

Iran
A Christian prisoner was released after 27 days in custody after being arrested on charges of "attending home churches, evangelizing, storing Bible & converting to Christian faith." He signed a statement that he would no longer participate in any Christian activities.
March 11, 2009

Middle East/North Africa
Amnesty International says that Mideast rights activists face persecution, torture, and repression for defending others, and that Iran, Syria, and Egypt were among the worst in this respect.
March 13, 2009

Selangor, Indonesia
The Selangor Islamic Religious Council has now banned the Indonesian song "Allah Peduli" (Allah Cares) because it contains the word "Allah" in reference to Jesus.
March 16, 2009

Mindanao, Philippines
Fighting between Philippine troops and separatist MILF rebels is causing a humanitarian crisis. (Video at link).
March 16, 2009

Iraq
A new book by the UN's media strategist accuses Kurdish officials of murdering an Assyrian leader.
March 17, 2009

Jordan
Jordan’s military court sentenced three men to 22 1/2 years in jail for a plot to bomb a Catholic church last May.
March 17, 2009

Kazakhstan
President Nazarbaev decided not to challenge the finding of the Constitutional Council that a new law amending various laws on religion is unconstitutional. "The Law violated the rights of Kazakh citizens, foreign citizens and people without citizenship in the area of freedom of religion," but more attempts to implement it are likely.
March 17, 2009

Pakistan
The Long March 's success will likely serve to encourage the Taliban insurgency in Pakistan.
March 18, 2009

Malatya, Turkey
The Malatya trial involving the slayings of Christians may reveal a "deep state" conspiracy. A poll reveals a "deep mistrust of Christians," who are often believed to be foreigners in their own country.
March 18, 2009

Iraq
Christians still face daily persecution, threats of violence, and "extreme deprivation."
March 18, 2009

Andijan Region, Uzbekistan
Four Protestants were jailed and three more were detained in a homeless center. A Baptist was also jailed in a separate incident. They were arrested in raids and told that they needed special permission to meet for church services besides those held on Sundays, but no requirement of the sort can be found in the legal code.
March 19, 2009

Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Police and town authorities opposed a funeral for a man because his wife and son are Christians. They later allowed it in a concealed form. Christians are sent to prison for gathering and praying.
March 19, 2009

Pakistan
As Pakistan becomes a Taliban state, discrimination and violence against Christians have increased and many are displaced. "Christians are fighting for their lives and being put on trial for their beliefs." Blasphemy laws are used to legitimize violence.
March 20, 2009

Istanbul, Turkey
Last month Turkey decided to try two Christians under a revised version of a controversial law against "insulting Turkishness." Update March 27 : They may appeal the fine for illegally collecting funds.
March 20, 2009

Baghdad, Iraq
Armenians in Baghdad are staying put, being grateful for a homeland after their families were driven into Iraq by the Armenian genocide.
March 21, 2009

Sargodha, Pakistan
Pakistani police have detained five Muslim militants for their alleged involvement in a shooting/desecration spree at a Presbyterian church which killed one woman and injured several others. At least four others are still at large.
March 22, 2009

Gaza
The Hamas administration has banned a Christian school from holding an event to mark "Jerusalem Capital of Arab Culture" day (from www.palvoice.com, in Arabic).
March 22, 2009

Iraq
A nun discusses the decline of religious freedom, as well as violence and displacement faced by Christians in Iraq.
March 23, 2009

Kuala Lumpur
The Minister of Islamic Affairs issued a thinly-veiled threat of violence against a leading lawyers association if the word "Allah" were not removed from the website of the Catholic Herald .
March 23, 2009

Islamabad & Malukay, Pakistan
Courts have dismissed blasphemy charges against a Christian rights activist but he is still in jail. Two others were charged with blasphemy for defiling the Muslim statement of faith during a ceremony in a graveyard.
March 24, 2009

Iraq
A young man was abducted and tortured for seven months for converting to Christianity. (Video).
March 24, 2009

Isfahan, Iran
Two Christian converts were arrested after having been set up and there is no news of their whereabouts. They and one of their sisters had previously been arrested and beaten by police for Internet evangelism.
March 25, 2009

Shiraz, Iran
Three Christian converts were found guilty of cooperation with anti-government movements (a Christian TV channel) and the propagation of Christian gospel, and were sentenced to eight-month suspended sentences and five years of probation.
March 25, 2009

Manila, Philippines
A hostage crisis involving three Red Cross workers may force several relief agencies to stop bringing assistance to some areas. The situation in Mindanao has become "dramatically less secure." Update March 26 : A guerilla group with al-Qaeda ties, Abu Sayyaf, has threatened to behead a Red Cross hostage.
March 25

Iraq
Christians are living in peril in Iraq. (Video).
March 26, 2009

Andijan, Uzbekistan
A pastor was arrested in a raid for not being an authorized religious leader and was sentenced to four years in a labor camp. International Christian Concern received a letter from his daughter and started a petition .
March 27, 2009

Tehran, Iran
An Assyrian church was closed by the Islamic Revolutionary Court, largely due to the attendance of newly-converted Muslims.
March 27, 2009

Swat Valley, Pakistan
Christians brace themselves for Sharia as the Taliban takes over. 500 Christians remain in the area, living in terror, along with the Hindus.
March 27, 2009

Dushanbe, Tajikistan
A new law was signed by the president which bans religious education for young children, any religious instruction in private homes, censorship of religious literature, and restrictions on services.
March 27, 2009

Ankara, Turkey
A report by the Council of Europe has warned Turkey against wrongly interpreting the Lausanne Treaty and using it as a pretext for refusing to implement minority rights.
Europe
March 15, 2009

Scotland
A research network was launched by Scottish universities to reflect global awareness of the plight of Christians in the Middle East.
March 15, 2009

UK
A girl claims that her father, an imam, chased her with an axe after she converted to Christianity. She says that her story is fairly common and that Christian converts often live in secret and in fear for their lives.
March 15, 2009

Belgrade, Serbia
Opposition leader and former prime minister Vojislav Kostunica has warned that Serbia is undergoing spiritual and territorial ravaging at an address to his party's youth forum.
March 16, 2009

Ribnovo, Bulgaria
The mayor of the municipality and a teacher were arrested and are under investigation for forcing kids to visit a mosque and adhere to the laws of fundamentalist Islam. Those who complained claimed to have been threatened with exile from the village.
March 16, 2009

Rome
In Memoriam Martyrum, an initiative of the Italian section of Aid to the Church in Need, celebrated three days of prayer and reflection to remember the Christians who "witness to their faith to the point of martyrdom."
March 17, 2009

Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovo
Serbs mark the 5th anniversary of riots which left 29 dead, 900 injured, and dozens of churches and monasteries destroyed or damaged. "Even five years later, there is no progress regarding our lives and our existence in this territory," said the deputy mayor.
March 18, 2009

Athens, Greece
Three Iranian and American pastors, apostates from Islam, at a Farsi-speaking church were threatened with murder by an Iranian Hezbollah group. The threatening letter can be read at the link.
March 19, 2009

Sarajevo, Bosnia
Croat groups have denounced the Islamization of the Muslim-Croat federation and have prepared a document demanding their own entity. Serbs have sided with them by threatening to hold a referendum on independence.
March 19, 2009

Germany
More than 100 Iraqi Christians arrived, some with tears in their eyes, to a new life away from the violence and persecution they suffered in their homeland and then in Syria. 15,000 Christians fled Mosul last year.
March 22, 2009

London, England
Londoners will be allowed to fly the flag of England's Patron Saint, St. George. The flag was previously banned because it was "racist."
March 23, 2009

Ribvono, Bulgaria
MP Yane Yanev spoke out against the forced Islamization of villages in the southern part of the country. Children have been forced to study radical Islam and both students and teachers have been made to wear traditional Muslim clothing.
March 24, 2009

Rome, Italy
A Catholic group meets once a month to pray for Christians who suffer persecution worldwide.
March 24, 2009

Bosnia-Herzegovina
A Bosnian-Croat NGO has filed war crimes suits against Bosnian Muslim political and military leaders for killing 375 Croat inmates in detention camps during the 1991-1995 civil war.
March 24, 2009

Belgrade, Serbia
The fallout from NATO's bombing of Serbia continues to kill as cancer rates rise from exposure to uranium.
March 25, 2009

Burel, Albania
European Union Rule of Law Mission in Kosovo (EULEX) may soon begin investigating the trafficking of the organs of Kosovo Serbs. EULEX has received material relating to the "yellow house," which is under investigation for having been an organ extraction facility, some of it implicating top Albanian separatist leadership.
March 25

Divic, Bosnia-Herzegovina
An entire church is being picked up and moved at great expense in order not to offend Muslims and to improve relations
March 25, 2009

Vatican City
The Vatican expressed "profound concern" about the situation of Middle Eastern Christians after the recent conflict in Gaza. "The land that was the cradle of Christianity risks ending up without Christians".
March 26, 2009

Geneva, Switzerland
The U.N.'s top human-rights body approved a proposal backed by Muslim nations urging the passage of laws around the world protecting religion from criticism. Islam was the only religion specifically named as deserving protection.
March 27, 2009

Verin Dvin, Ararat Province, Armenia
"Armenia is a homeland for Assyrians, who have no homeland."
March 27, 2009

Donja Budriga, Kosovo
An elderly ethnic Kosovo Serb woman's house was bombed. She was not injured. The Kosovo Police Service is investigating.

Australia
March 16, 2009

Australia
An Iraqi delegation met with Australian Assyrians to discuss the plight of Assyrians in Iraq. "[S]ince the 1930's, Assyrians in Iraq have petitioned the successive governments of Iraq for their national rights and a halt to their systematic persecution, genocide and displacement"
March 22, 2009

Melbourne, Australia
Muslim students staged a protest, claiming that they are discriminated against due to a lack of prayer rooms. RMIT University has eight prayer rooms, two of which are specifically reserved for Muslims, and the rest of which are multi-faith.

Everywhere
March 24, 2009
Voice of the Martyrs provides Christian victims of violence with medical aid. (Video).
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Intolerant Islam Wants to Ban Letter 'X'

2009-03-29T18:00:00.004+11:00

I was reading some REVIEWS on books I would like to purchase over at AMAZON. One in particular…The Truth about Mohhamad, by Ali Sina. Then I came across this FORUM on the following story.

What a bloody joke. Only I am NOT laughing. Do we tell them what to do with their little squiggles in arabic. Could you imagine if these nutcases were to be assessed by a psychologist and shown the flash cards? What would they make of an ink-blot. Oh yeah, they would want that banned too. To me it looks like a picture of mo all distorted. They would take offence and so want it not to be in the testing.

Should they also ban the letter T / t - as it could be construed as a symbol of a cross. More so than the letter X. Or the letter B for looking like a pair of boobs side on? What are these jerks really trying to accomplish? To me, I use the letter xxxx to throw kisses to whoever I might be writing to.
Have a read of the story and some of the comments, they are seriously crackers.

http://www.amazon.com/Intolerant-Islam-Wants-Ban-Letter/forum/Fx3FF6P9TF7BK64/Tx160AVQR8037YY/1/ref=cm_cd_dp_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&asin=1596985283&store=books
Intolerant Islam Wants to Ban Letter 'X'

This article from the New York Sun tells how the Saudi Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice wants to ban the letter 'X' because it looks too much like a cross. http://www.nysun.com/article/46707

Part of one of the quotes.

'The truth is as Robert Spencer said, Islam is the world's most intolerant religion. I think even he didn't think that they were so nutty and intolerant as to discuss getting rid of a letter. Next, what will happen to the '+' sign?'

The more I hear of islam, the more I read of islam, the more bloody angry I become. When are people really going to wake up and start shouting from the rooftops about this 'cancer on humanity'. We, know the cure, but we just have to convince the authorities to fund it.

Give Me A Break.

BEAUSEANT!!!!!!

I think it is time for us people living in Victoria, (or even in Australia), to arrange for some sort of get-together to form some type of group, whether it be just a group to organise strategies, forums, protests, or simply for support.... In my case, you are all I have in the way of support.

Gifts for the hard to buy for person

2009-03-29T13:02:00.002+11:00

Yazzii Wildlife Collection: A new concept for Jewellery, Make-up and Cosmetic Storage. (Link is in the side bar)and I have also given her a wrap at my other blog BUTTERFLY HAVEN http://54cuddlybear.spaces.live.com/

This is a first for me. I was at Water Gardens Shopping Centre yesterday ( Thursday 26th March) just to have some lunch with my niece. As we were wandering around we came across a display of some wonderful looking items. We were looking at them and remarking on the practicality and quality of these products. I immediately thought of my other niece in Perth. Now she travels interstate on a fairly regular basis either for family reasons or business, she also travels to places in WA for short stays. Ah ha! I thought. Now she wears a lot of very nice and rather expensive jewellery, and I am always at a loss as to what to buy for her in the way of gifts.
So we got talking to the owner of this display, her name is Yazzii. We asked quite a few questions on her products and about her business and I was impressed that she supplies to many places around the world as a distributor.
Now, this display made a very nice change to the various shops that sell cheap jewellery, make-up bags and travel bags etc, and I had never seen her products displayed anywhere. This is because she has not displayed in this way before. She does distribute to specialty shops but not in this area. She has …I think from memory around 180 staff.
In the past I have ordered many, many various items from catalogues or online and rarely have I been 100% satisfied with them, especially the material of, say, T-shirts or bags. They never look as good as they do in the catalogues, and the quality of the material is such that I would never recommend them to others.
However, having seen these products, inspected the stitching on them, I was impressed at the quality. They are like quilting. Yazzii was telling me that she does expos at the Showgrounds in Ascot Vale, at Jeff’s Shed and Quilting Fairs. I went to a Quilting Fair 2 years ago but not this year when she was there.
Yazzii was selling these products at a cheaper rate than what can be purchased on line, or even in boutiques she distributes to, and had many ‘teasers’ as she called some of the products in the jewellery range . She also had a range of gorgeous other products.

I asked how long she would have her display there, and she told me for one more week. I tossed it around in my head and I really wanted to purchase one of these products for my niece. I didn’t think I would be able to get back there in time or even have the $’s so I decided then and there to purchase what I wanted. I would have liked to get a slightly bigger organiser for my niece, but then I had to think of my budget, and also of the amount of space she would have in her suitcase. So I went for the middle size zip up bag with quite a few separate compartments and a special ring holder.
My companion also purchased something for herself. Gee, I saw some stuff I would have loved to have bought, but I didn’t have enough money, nor would I in the future….my budget is tight.
Anyway, I asked Yazzii if I could write a piece about her products. She said ‘yes please.’
There were some particular items I really wanted to look at more closely, but I know me, and I would have not been able to help myself, I would have blown the rest of my money, plus I would have ended up owing my companion (again). I don’t know the proper name for it but it was a wrap of sorts, and I love this type of clothing, as I collect scarves and capes etc.
I have not yet visited her site, as I did not want to be influenced by anything she has on it. I wanted to write about it from my memory and my thoughts first.
There were so many things in this display and various materials and colours.
I must mention about the prices. For these products, the prices were most reasonable, and I was happy with them. So happy in fact, that I just know this first purchase will not be my one and only.

So if you are looking for a unique gift for that hard to buy person in your life, then go and have a look at these products…I am sure you will find something. Yazzii has buyers from all over the world. She has told me that her products are made in INDIA but supervised by her.

Her details are: yazzii website: www.yazzii.com

E-mail: sales@yazzii.com
Tel No: (03) 9899-9990
Fax: (03) 8610-0027
Showroom Address: Trade Only. Unit 4, 10 Clarice Road, Box Hill South, Victoria 3128

Islam In Action: UK:Police Identify 200 Children as Potential Terrorists

2009-03-29T12:45:00.000+11:00

Islam In Action: UK:Police Identify 200 Children as Potential Terrorists

Only 200....
That’s all very well and good, but please, as if one of these kids parents are going to allow intervention. Now, what are the Police going to do about the parents if they are full on muzzos, who adore their scummy prophet and are all for the islamisation of the UK? And what pray tell are the Police to do about the Western kids being indoctrinated by the friends who are little islamists? And the adult converts?
Wouldn’t it be better for the Police to concentrate of enforcing law and order in the communities, and making sure that the muzzos are well watched.
If the imams are preaching hate in their mosques, which to me, are just a gathering place for them to decide on more strategies to gain more concessions from us infidels, and ways they can bring charges against us for insulting their pedophile prophet, then shouldn’t these places be policed in depth?
If I was a church going person, and went to a service where the Pastor or whatever was preaching hate against the muslims, how long do you think they would get away with that? It would be a one time event only.

"We are committed to stopping people becoming or supporting terrorists or violent extremists. The aim of the Channel project is to directly support vulnerable people by providing supportive interventions when families, communities and networks raise concerns about their behaviour."

The only way they are going to stop people becoming or supporting terrorists is to deport those muzzos who are spreading their hate and committing crimes. Even invalidating and stripping them and their families of their citizenship papers. First plane out of there, all expenses paid. It will be cheaper in the long run.
Now all we need to do is convince the Aussie pollies to wake up and stop muslim immigration, and as for the boat people, afganis & pakis…10 in the last year alone,
Either blow their boats out of the water, forbid any naval vessels from picking them up, thus allowing them to claim refugee status, or get them on the first plane back to their countries. Mr. Howard had it right, and there was almost no boats coming illegally to our shores. Since Rudd has been in power, there have been many of them.

BTW, the muzzos are forming their own communities here as well. I believe there is one up North established by a convert who was a pugilist. I have no ideas where the others are, as they are not advertised or reported in the news here, but Australia has vast amounts of Forrest and desert areas, and bush land where communities could easily be set up. Other than that they just take over the suburbs and build their mosques and schools no matter how many people complain or lodge protests with the council concerned.

I don’t know about you and your readers Chris, but to me, we are losing ‘the battle’ and I can’t see any winning scores on our part until it is too late then people will remove their blinkers and say, “why wasn’t I told?” Then I will have the pleasure in saying “I told you so”. The silence among my family members and associates is deafening, and they have made it clear to me they are not interested in my theories or racist remarks, and it won’t happen here type of thing. They have also made it clear that; they do not have the time or the inclination to look at any links or stories/articles I send them about anything to do with islam etc. It does sadden me, and the only one I am getting through to is my daughter, and that is on the banking issue.
So I will just keep learning and stay within my networks here on the net and FB and Bloggs etc, and I will keep reading the news articles I find, books & DVD’s that are recommended, and pray that when the time comes, that my family stay safe.

Bring on the Crusades…BEAUSEANT!!!
Christian Nanna

Tuberculosis on the rise - again.

2009-03-28T20:53:00.002+11:00

Now this subject made me shudder. Why, you might ask??? Because I know what it is like to have this rotten bloody disease. I was found to have it when I was 4 years old. I apparently got it from family members who had been in the wars.
As the youngest of 5 children, and born to parents who were in their late 30's, I was just seen as a sickly kid who always had a cold. It wasn't even picked up with all the bloody noses I would have and vomit up blood through the night. My parents just thought as I often had nose bleeds, that it would happen in my sleep, thus swallowing the blood and vomit it up. (Gross yeah).. It was however, picked up when my parent's bedroom walls were covered in blood clots from my projectile vomiting in the middle of the night. This was the beginning of my next year and a half in hospital, isolated from my family. My sisters would have to wave to me through the ward window. The treatment was totally gross back then. Tubes down my throat, up my nose, injections all the time, pills that would choke a bloody horse. After the first year and my 5th birthday in hospital, I would gradually be allowed to have some weekend visits home, then when I was released from the hospital I was confined to bed rest and light activity and huge tins of horse choking pills. I remember in the 1980's there were a few cases of TB detected in Victoria, well I can tell you, I was at the TB Clinic getting X-Rays quick smart.. I was terrified of ever getting it again. Australia used to have compulsory vaccinations for this. TB was eventually eradicated from our vocabulary and hospitals resulting in no more compulsory testing or vaccinations.
Now if our Immigration Policy is such that they are going to be letting infected people in this country without the proper screenings, and especially all the African migrants/refugees etc. Then surely we need to be doing something about re-introducing screenings and vaccinations against this horrible disease.

How about refusing entry to anyone with any type of infectious disease. That would suit me perfectly!!!!!

Resurgent Tuberculosis Deadly Disease of Globalization
by Christine Craig
BIOLOGY & MEDICINE 21st CENTURY Science & Technology Spring/Summer 2007 73

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Two epidemiological reports released in the last few months on the extent of extensively drug resistant tuberculosis (XDR-TB) in South Africa, are critical warnings of the global threat of this virtually incurable disease, especially in conjunction with its “companion” ailment, HIV/AIDS.
TB in any form is not some rare, exotic ailment, but an illness whose onset and transmissibility have long
been understood. With decent infrastructure and living conditions, TB could have been contained and driven
back to almost nil incidence. However, with the last three decades of international decline in economic conditions, affecting concentrations of people in Africa and Asia, and in localized areas in the Americas and Europe, the resurgence of TB, with its deadly mutations, was predictable.1
On Sept. 16, 2006, the Department of Health for South Africa issued a horrifying report on the presence of XDR-TB,2 including the situation in KwaZulu- Natal. Certain patients at the Church of Scotland Hospital in Tugela Ferry were found, in the Fall of 2005, to be infected with a strain of TB not responding to any
treatment. A survey over the following 12 months, turned up 53 patients, almost all co-infected with HIV, who
were suffering from untreatable TB which, in the immune-compromised patients, was quickly fatal. All but one of the 53 died within three weeks of diagnosis. Those 53 victims represented 16 percent of all confirmed cases of XDRTB globally during 2006. This bombshell report conjured up images of a catastrophe in the making in the AIDS-wracked areas of South Africa, precipitating a flurry of meetings among
international health professionals, and leading to the creation of the World Health Organization (WHO) Global XDR-TB Task Force, which convened in October to address the threat of untreatable TB in the age of HIV. The Global XDR-TB Task Force found, to its horror (but no great surprise) that, in the renewed war against a strengthening foe, the ammunition was low, and the supply lines were cut. Although warnings had been out since the early 1990s that multi-drug resistant (MDR) TB was a rising threat, as evidenced by
the well-documented outbreaks in the United States and in Eastern Europe during the late 1980s, no agencies had really taken it seriously as a global danger at the time.
XDR-TB is now considered endemic in the KwaZulu-Natal province of South Africa. In the January 2007 issue of PLoS Medicine, J.A. Singh et al. presented a truly frightening view of the situation.
More than 30 new cases are detected each month, with a total of more than 300 cases, and the disease has been reported in 39 hospitals, plus other areas of the province. And that is just the official tally, which most certainly understates the case, as many of the poor never seek medical help. The authors note: “In recognition of the global threat posed by these factors, on September 9, 2006, WHO urged a
response to the outbreak akin to recent global efforts to control severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and the bird flu....”

Europe’s White Plague
That the Western world would be so shocked and surprised by this turn of events is remarkable in itself, considering that, just two centuries ago, tuberculosis was so virulent in Europe that many 72 Spring/Summer 2007 21st CENTURY Science & Technology BIOLOGY & MEDICINE feared it would destroy Western civilization. The list of artists, philosophers, and scientists who suffered or died from TB is endless, including
Friedrich Schiller, Percy Shelley, Bernhard Riemann, John Keats, and Vladimir Vernadsky.
It is estimated that in 1800, the death rate per year from tuberculosis in Western Europe (and in urban North America) was 1 percent. At the peak of the long epidemic, perhaps 25 percent of Western Europeans
died of tuberculosis. There was no cure for the disease, nor was the causative agent known at that time.
And yet, over the next two centuries, “consumption” (as it was known) lost its grip on the European continent, slowly and steadily receding, even in the absence of any satisfactory medical treatments for the disease. Those with active disease were still very likely to die, but fewer were getting active disease.
It has been just 125 years since the famed bacteriologist and Göttingen-trained physician Robert Koch identified and characterized the minuscule tuberculosis bacillus in his home laboratory in Berlin, in 1881, proving it to be the source of the disease, and giving hope that the TB leviathan then devouring the
European populace, could be brought down by science.

It has been almost 100 years since the discovery of the only vaccine ever developed against tuberculosis—the Bacille Calmette Guèrin (BCG) vaccine, based on a highly attenuated Mycobacterium bovis strain—a vaccine found to give some protection to children against the gruesome childhood killers, miliary tuberculosis and tubercular meningitis. It has been only some 60 years since the development of the first effective antibiotics against tuberculosis: streptomycin and para-amino salicylic acid (PAS), discovered by Selman Waksman and Jorgen Lehmann, respectively, around the end of World War II.

By 1960, a team led by Dr. John Crofton of Edinburgh, had successfully tackled the recalcitrant tuberculosis problem in Scotland with a remarkable protocol using triple-antibiotic therapy in an 18-month-long treatment regimen, which could successfully cure even advanced pulmonary tuberculosis cases caused by drug-resistant strains. And, under the joint control of the British Medical Research Council and the WHO, trials of Crofton’s methods had been carried out in Madras, India among the poor—with astounding success. Policy makers, including scientists, began to believe that TB could be tackled by drug technology alone, even without costly investments in economic development and public health infrastructure! A mere five years later, tuberculosis had already been dropped from courses at the Harvard School of Public Health, a disease deemed no longer important in the training of future health-care professionals. Science had won, and tuberculosis, long the scourge of Europe and the U.S., receded from the consciousness of the populace (Figure 1).

The world didn’t really take notice of tuberculosis again as a global problem until the second half of the 1980s, when the long trend of TB incidence- decrease in developed countries was shattered by a sudden upward tick in notifications, noted most strongly in the United States and in post- Soviet Eastern Europe. The situation was documented in great detail in the United States by outraged public health professionals, especially in New York City, where most of the increase was occurring (Figure 2).3

The Nature of the Beast
Tuberculosis is usually caused by Mycobacterium tuberculosis, an ingenious and insidious organism: a minuscule bacterium hardly bigger than a virus, surrounded by an impervious waxy coat. In many of its features within the host body it acts similarly to the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV), secreting
itself within immune cells called phagocytes, the very cells that would otherwise seek it out and destroy it.
Within the phagocyte, the tubercular bacillus hides in the central vacuole, protected from chemical destruction by its waxy coat. Here it grows and reproduces very slowly, and is spread with the phagocytes throughout the lymphatic system. Most often, the disease affects adults in its pulmonary form. Children are often afflicted with primary infections affecting the lymphatic system or other organs, including a rapidly fatal systemic form called military tuberculosis. During the host’s first (primary) infection with TB, a battle with the immune system ensues, and, almost always, the immune system wins, at least in the short term. The infection becomes “latent.”

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DDT and over-population.

2009-03-28T20:24:00.003+11:00

Here is a very interesting article about DDT, population explosion and the Political reasons behind it all.

I have only ever heard of DDT as one of the most dangerous and deadly chemicals ever made. It is banned here in OZ, but after reading this article, I once again see how politics and PC can get in the way of common sense. What really grabbed my attention was a paragraph of the banning of DDT was the blame for a population explosion in 3rd world countries. Now, far from me having a scientific mind, but is this not something that could once again get diseases like malaria under some control and so save many thousands of lives from dying horrible deaths. I mean to say, many people in 3rd world countries live in absolute poverty and diseased beyond help.
Or this just one more huge piece of propaganda for the Democratic socialists run by LaRouche who was the/is the king pin behind Soros, or the other way around. In a previous comment I had mentioned my mind could not recall certain names associated with Soros, but as soon as I saw this article I knew where the connections in my memory banks were going.
But back to the question of do we really need DDT back on the agenda to save lives, from horrible mosquito borne diseases etc? To grow crops to feed people? In a world over nearing over-population, and I say that because I believe there are too many people for this world to sustain in a livable manner. Just my opinion. What do you think?

This was a link from AIM, to a Science blog.

Bring Back DDT, and Science With It!
By Marjorie Mazel Hecht
Excerpt of Editorial from Summer 2002 issue

The 1972 U.S. ban on DDT is responsible for a genocide 10 times larger than that for which we sent Nazis to the gallows at Nuremberg. It is also responsible for a menticide which has already condemned one entire generation to a dark age of anti-science ignorance, and is now infecting a new one.
The lies and hysteria spread to defend the DDT ban are typical of the irrationalist, anti-science wave which has virtually destroyed rational forms of discourse in our society. If you want to save science—and human lives—the fight to bring back DDT, now being championed by that very electable candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., had better be at the top of your agenda.
Sixty million people have died needlessly of malaria, since the imposition of the 1972 ban on DDT, and hundreds of millions more have suffered from this debilitating disease. The majority of those affected are children. Of the 300 to 500 million new cases of malaria each year, 200 to 300 million are children, and malaria now kills one child every 30 seconds. Ninety percent of the reported cases of malaria are in Africa, and 40 percent of the world’s population, inhabitants of tropical countries, are threatened by the increasing incidence of malaria.
The DDT ban does not only affect tropical nations. In the wake of the DDT ban, the United States stopped its mosquito control programs, cutting the budgets for mosquito control and monitoring. Exactly as scientists had warned 25 years ago, we are now facing increases of mosquito-borne killer diseases—West Nile fever and dengue, to name the most prominent.
What DDT Can Do
Malaria is a preventable mosquito-borne disease. It can be controlled by spraying a tiny amount of DDT on the walls of houses twice a year. DDT is cheaper than other pesticides, more effective, and not harmful to human beings or animals.
Even where mosquito populations have developed resistance to DDT, it is more effective (and less problematic) than alternative chemicals. The reason is that mosquitoes are repelled by the DDT on house walls and do not stay around to bite and infect the inhabitants. This effect is known as “excito-repellency,” and has been shown to be a dominant way that DDT controls malaria-bearing mosquitoes, in addition to killing them on contact.1 Studies have demonstrated this for all major species of malaria-bearing mosquitoes.
It costs only $1.44 per year to spray one house with DDT. The more toxic substitutes cost as much as 10 to 20 times more and require more frequent applications, making spraying programs prohibitively expensive. In addition, replacement pesticides have to be applied more frequently and are more toxic.
Banned to Kill People
DDT came into use during World War II, and in a very short time saved more lives and prevented more diseases than any other man-made chemical in history. Millions of troops and civilians, in particular war refugees, were saved from typhus because one DDT dusting killed the body lice that spread that dread disease.
Why was DDT banned, 30 years after its World War II introduction and spectacular success in saving lives? The reason was stated bluntly by Alexander King, founder of the Malthusian Club of Rome, who wrote in a biographical essay in 1990, “My chief quarrel with DDT in hindsight is that it has greatly added to the population problem.” King was particularly concerned that DDT had dramatically cut the death rates in the developing sector, and thus increased population growth.
As King correctly observed, the incidence of malaria, and its death rates, were vastly reduced by DDT spraying. To take one example: Sri Lanka (Ceylon) had 2.8 million cases of malaria and more than 12,500 deaths in 1946, before the use of DDT. In 1963, after a large-scale spraying campaign, the number of cases fell to 17, and the number of deaths fell to 1. But five years after the stop of spraying, in 1969, the number of deaths had climbed to 113, and the number of cases to 500,000. Today, malaria rates have soared in countries that stopped spraying. In South Africa, the malaria incidence increased by 1,000 percent in the late 1990s.
The Silent Spring Fraud
The campaign to ban DDT got its start with the publication of Rachel Carson’s book Silent Spring in 1962. Carson’s popular book was a fraud. She played on people’s emotions, and to do so, she selected and falsified data from scientific studies, as entomologist Dr. J. Gordon Edwards has documented in his analysis of the original scientific studies that Carson cited.2
As a result of the propaganda and lies, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency convened scientific hearings and appointed a Hearing Examiner, Edmund Sweeney, to run them. Every major scientific organization in the world supported DDT use, submitted testimony, as did the environmentalist opposition. The hearings went on for seven months, and generated 9,000 pages of testimony. Hearing Examiner Sweeney then ruled that DDT should not be banned, based on the scientific evidence: “DDT is not carcinogenic, mutagenic, or teratogenic to man [and] these uses of DDT do not have a deleterious effect on fish, birds, wildlife, or estuarine organisms,” Sweeney concluded.
Two months later, without even reading the testimony or attending the hearings, EPA administrator William Ruckelshaus overruled the EPA hearing officer and banned DDT. He later admitted that he made the decision for “political” reasons. “Science, along with economics, has a role to play . .. .. [but] the ultimate decision remains political,” Ruckelshaus said.
The U.S. decision had a rapid effect in the developing sector, where the State Department made U.S. aid contingent on countries not using any pesticide that was banned in the United States. The U.S. Agency for International Development discontinued its support for DDT spraying programs, and instead increased funding for birth control programs.
Other Western nations—Sweden and Norway, for example—also pressured recipient nations to stop the use of DDT. Belize abandoned DDT in 1999, because Mexico, under pressure from the United States and NAFTA, had stopped the manufacture of DDT, which was Belize’s source. Purchases of replacement insecticides would take up nearly 90 percent of Belize’s malaria control budget. Mozambique stopped the use of DDT, “because 80 percent of the country’s health budget came from donor funds, and donors refused to allow the use of DDT,” reported the British Medical Journal (March 11, 2000).
The World Bank and the World Health Organization, meanwhile, responded to the rise in malaria incidence with a well-publicized “Roll Back Malaria” program, begun in 1989, which involves no insect control measures, only bed nets, personnel training, and drug therapies—a prescription for failure.
POPs Convention Is Genocide
In 1995, despite the official documentation of increases in malaria cases and malaria deaths, the United Nations Environment Program began an effort to make the ban on DDT worldwide. UNEP proposed to institute “legally binding” international controls banning what are called “persistent organic pollutants” or POPs, including DDT. Ratification of the POPs Convention, finalized in 2001, is now pending in the U.S. Senate, where it has the support of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, including committee chairman James Jeffords (Ind.-Vt.) and committee member Joe Lieberman (D.-Conn.). President Bush has already endorsed the U.S. signing on to the POPs Convention.
The evidence of DDT’s effectiveness is dramatic. In South America, where malaria is endemic, malaria rates soared in countries that had stopped spraying houses with DDT after 1993: Guyana, Bolivia, Paraguay, Peru, Brazil, Colombia, and Venezuela. In Ecuador, however, which increased its use of DDT after 1993, the malaria rate was rapidly reduced by 60 percent.
But DDT spraying is not a magic bullet cure-all. Eliminating mosquito-borne diseases here and around the world requires in-depth public health infrastructure and trained personnel—as were in place in the 1950s and 1960s, when DDT began to rid the world of malaria. And mosquito-borne illness is not the only scourge now threatening us. A growing AIDS pandemic, and the return of tuberculosis and other killer diseases, now also menace growing parts of the world’s population, particularly in those areas where human immune systems are challenged by malnutrition and poorly developed (or nonexistent) water and sanitation systems.
To solve this worsening problem as a whole—a disgrace in face of the scientific achievements the world has made—we must reverse the entire course of the past 30 years’ policymaking and return to a society based on production, scientific progress, and rationality. The onrushing world depression crisis, demands a new FDR-style approach to economic reconstruction in the United States. The recognized spokesman for such a reform of our economic and monetary policies is the very electable candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Lyndon H. LaRouche.
The United States should not ratify the POPs Convention with its phase-out of DDT and other valuable chemicals. On the contrary, this nation should bring back DDT now, under the provisions of existing U.S. law that allow the use of DDT in health emergencies. If the continuing mass murder of millions of people is not an emergency, what is?
1. A summary of this work can be found in an article by Donald R. Roberts, et al., Emerging Infectious Diseases, Vol. 3, No. 3 (1997), pp. 295-302.
2. J. Gordon Edwards, “The Lies of Rachel Carson,” 21st Century, Summer 1992.
Edwards, a professor emeritus at San Jose State University in California, drank a spoonful of DDT in front of his entomology classes at the beginning of each school year, to make the point that DDT is not harmful to human beings. Now 83, and still fighting for the truth about DDT, Edwards is an avid mountain climber.

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Internment camps and Euro coming your way.

2009-03-28T18:03:00.003+11:00

Looks like Soros is going to get what he has wanted for many years now. Back in the 1980's I became aware of Soros and the Australian Socialist coalition. Soros was backing this euro dollar and to the socialists Soros was their god, their hero, he was to this crowd as Mo is to the islamists. . They literally worshipped the ground he walked on. He has fancied himself the world leader for a long time now, and he would use his money to prove he was worth it. What I would like to know is...where did and from where does Soros get all his money from???? He spouted for a global monetary system way back then and I think he wanted it called the euro dollar or something like that. I really wish I had of kept all the paper work I had on him when I was involved in the political realm, in the Liberal Right (conservatives). And I had it because I wanted to know what this group of socialist, commie lovers were on about and up to. I also had to put up with the Uni crowd professing their worship for him and I really got to hate going to some of my classes, especially sociology where the professional students all wanted to live in some sort of Fabian society, or a utopia of their own making through socialism. I was known as a bit of a snob back then simply because i wouldn't hang with the crowd, and i did my own thing. I was there for an education, they were there for the Austudy money so as they wouldn't have to work. They were also activists that got involved with the usual protests against government etc, and they absolutely hated anything to do with Jeff kennet or the Liberal Pollies.. They absolutely loved the required reading material, engels, marx, and all the other leftists who believed in the social construct crap.
So are we are to have a global financial dictatorship? is there going to be any sort of a referendum on this and other issues within Australia, or are we just going to be the good little 'sheeple' and baa baa all the way to our own demise?

UN and IMF Back Agenda For Global Financial Dictatorship
Posted by: "Paul Joseph Watson" watson-paul3@sky.com onedeaddj
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:01 am (PDT)

UN & IMF Back Agenda For Global Financial Dictatorship
Frog march to new world reserve currency system continues apace

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, March 27, 2009

Both the IMF and the United Nations have thrown their weight behind proposals to implement a new world reserve currency system to replace the dollar as part of the acceleration towards a global financial dictatorship, in the same week that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told CFR globalists that he was "open" to the idea.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/un-imf-back-agenda-for-global-financial-dictatorship.html

Two-Faced Geithner Assures CFR Puppet Masters He's "Open" To Global
Posted by: "Paul Joseph Watson" watson-paul3@sky.com onedeaddj
Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:25 am (PDT)

Two-Faced Geithner Assures CFR Puppet Masters He's "Open" To Global Currency
Treasury Secretary a traitor, tells American people one thing, CFR elitists another, as move towards global monetary union accelerates

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, March 26, 2009

In a near complete reversal of his comments on Tuesday, when he told a Congressional hearing that there were no plans to move towards a global currency to supplant the dollar, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner sought to please the elitist CFR by assuring them that he was "open" to the notion of a new global currency system.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/two-faced-geithner-assures-cfr-puppet-masters-hes-open-to-global-currency.html

Schwarzenegger To Provide Government Camps For Homeless

Shut down and takeover of "tent cities" stokes fears of internment pretext

Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Thursday, March 26, 2009

Plans to shut down tent cities in California and relocate homeless people to government-run facilities have stoked fears that the move could be a pretext for a wider internment of Americans in the event of a total economic collapse.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/schwarzenegger-to-provide-government-camps-for-homeless.html

Internment camps for homeless people when they can not afford to house themselves???. Is this what I am reading? Is it because the govt. will make sure the muzzos are living comfortably as a further act of appeasement and to hell with the Citizens who once worked and paid taxes. How about the internment camps for the muzzos so as to keep everyone else safe, much like what happened to the Japanese people and no matter how long they lived in Australia. The jap money was printed and ready for distribution but at the last minute it was all shelved thanks to our brave soldiers who fought their asses off protecting us all, including my father.. And don't let anyone tell you that this money bit is rumour or some conspiracy theory, coz it was printed. I fear that Australoia will follow suit and have camps ready for internment reasons....but the real big question is...internment for whom?

Finnish Trial for speaking the truth.

2009-03-28T17:05:00.002+11:00

Saturday, March 28, 2009

***** JIHAD WATCH *****
Home page:

Free speech death watch: Finnish politician to be tried for blaspheming Islam

Blasphemer Besides blasphemy, Halla-aho was "ordered to stand trial for publishing on his blog that Islam's prophet was a pedophile."

Here again we encounter the Orwellian, or perhaps more precisely Alice-In-Wonderland, Through-the-Looking-Glass quality of today's public discourse. The collection...

Full article:
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Gees, I suppose Australia had better start building those prisons, coz we are gonna have a lot of people using them if we are going to prison for speaking the truth. I suspect Mr. Rudd will go along with outlawing freedom of speech here soon. Anything to keep 'His Soul Mate' happy.

Islam In Action: Iran Proves Me Right About Koran Verse 5:32~Video

2009-03-28T11:26:00.000+11:00

Islam In Action: Iran Proves Me Right About Koran Verse 5:32~Video

Just to clarify my last remark......

[Christian Nanna] New comment on EX-muslims against islam.‏
From: Mohamed (noreply-comment@blogger.com)
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 7:54:38 AM

Mohamed has left a new comment on your post "EX-muslims against islam":

Where in the Koran it says to fight people? The problem is people do not seperate the Koran from hadiths. Hadiths have the same place in islam as the Talmud in Judaism. The Koran came to confirm the Torah and Gospel but condemned the Talmud and Trinity.

The Koran preaches peace and tolerance and guarantees freedom of religion in over 30 verses.

Now THATS the truth

Well here ya go Mo..just in case, you can read the article in ISLAM IN ACTION. and maybe you might learn a thing or two about what TRUTH really is. Take your blinkers of Mo...and you just might see life and the koran for what it really is.
Beauseant!!!!

Islam In Action: Iran Proves Me Right About Koran Verse 5:32~Video

2009-03-28T11:22:00.000+11:00

Islam In Action: Iran Proves Me Right About Koran Verse 5:32~Video

Perfect timing to answer Mohamad's last question to me....show me where in the koran it say to use violence...well here ya go Mo... read it and weep. Thanks Chris...coming to my rescue yet once again....

Mourners farewell Corporal Hopkins

2009-03-27T19:59:00.002+11:00

Why is this not news of importance??? This soldier gave his life. His family, friends and fellow troopers are in mourning, yet it doesn’t seem to rank high enough to be read. So much for Aussie Pride.

Mourners farewell Corporal Hopkins
15:46 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=794307&rss=yes
12 Flocks

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Well of course they are gonna get the blame. White, blue-eyed people are the only people in the world who buy goods, and spend money or not. No one else could possibly be blamed. Thank goodness I have green eyes.

'White, blue-eyed people caused crisis'
16:18 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=794343
19 Flocks
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What conditions could ever be agreed on as far as the taliban are concerned?. There is no compromise, no agreement and certainly no trust in them living up to any conditions to be had with these murderous bastards. Notice how many flocks this one has had. 8. The apathy of the general population of people is beginning to really piss me off. Surely the headlines are enough to get people to read them so as they might know what is happening in this crazy world.

UK may talk to Taliban 'with conditions'
16:12 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=794148
8 Flocks
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And just how does Hussein Obama reckon he is gonna manage this one. Is he going to go and personally search every inch of paki land to search for bin laden and the Taliban insurgents. Or doesn’t he know they are hiding there?
‘"Seven-and-a-half years after September 11, the al-Qaeda core leadership, Osama bin Laden and others, have moved from Kandahar, Afghanistan, to a location unknown, somewhere in Pakistan," one official said.’ And this, ‘Another key goal of the strategy is to support Pakistan's besieged Democratic government, and to help Islamabad crack down on al-Qaeda and Taliban havens on its territory’.

Obama plans to 'dismantle' al-Qaeda
14:42 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009
By Stephen Collinson
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=794255
21 Flocks

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This culling of SEAL PUPS is a disgrace. The IFAW and the Animals Rights Groups should be jumping all over these hunters. Before anyone goes screaming about Kangaroos in Australia being culled…yeah it does happen however, these animals are destroying farmer’s crops and spreading disease. Just like rabbits did and still do. What harm are these seal pups doing???? What, for a bit of bloody fur. GREED.

Canadian sealers cull more than 19,000
11:01 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/794060/canadian-sealers-cull-more-than-19000

46 Flocks

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Wow, this one had all of 7 Flocks. People must really be interested in the war on terror and knowing that terrorist scum are being released only to be let loose back among the American people, but have no fear, I am sure they will make their way back to fighting with their islamist mates, just like others who have been released from Gitmo.

Some Gitmo inmates may be released in US
13:23 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=794227

7 Flocks

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Talk about black & white comedy team. These 2 are going to be the absolute downfall for both our Countries. God help us all. Is all I can say to this piece.

Rudd a partner for years to come: Obama
05:35 AEST Wed Mar 25 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/792956/rudd-a-partner-for-years-to-come-obama

President Barack Obama has said he hoped to partner with Australia's Prime Minister Kevin Rudd for "years to come" after forging a "meeting of the minds" in their first White House talks.
126 Flocks

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So where are all the do-gooders when people can’t even raise a flag.

Indonesia arresting protesters: Amnesty
17:40 AEST Fri Mar 27 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=794402
1 Flock
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But this story of world-wide importance. I am sure everyone would want to know about this…and yeah 478 people Flocked this piece of trash. Who gives a shit what people do to themselves in a bloody carwash….not like teeny-tots can take their peddle cars there to be washed and so be exposed to perverts..

Man jailed for vacuum sex act
Friday, March 27, 2009
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/793983/man-jailed-for-vacuum-sex-act
478 Flocks

Crusader supporters combat a different GFC (Global Financial Crisis)

2009-03-27T12:54:00.002+11:00

It is good to see that Australia has some bright, intelligent, young up and coming Christians to be our leaders in the years to come.
Even if you are not a Christian, then it is better to encourage people to live a good and decent lives. These young people are growing in numbers and will be the leaders of the future. Isn't it better than having the thugs and muslim radicals threatening to take our freedoms away from us and breaking the economy with their economic jihads in various areas that are weakoning the Australian purse.
Of course, when I seen the name of this group I just had to go and have a look. Yeah Crusaders....bring it on...Beauseant. CNanna

Crusaders' Vision
From the Australian Christian Channel News.
http://www.acctv.com.au/articledetail.asp?id=6653

The Crusader Union is a Bible-based, interdenominational, Christian youth organisation which seeks to:
Share Jesus with a new generation
Nurture Christians and
Encourage church membership
Founded in 1930, Crusaders currently reaches over 30,000 young people with the gospel each year through the following programs:

Crusaders was founded in 1930 by the Rev. Dr Howard Guinness. Dr Howard Guinness was a visionary man who was keen to strengthen Christian work among school students. He saw voluntary groups as a key to achieving this. From small beginnings in just four schools, Crusaders has now grown to serve 100 independent schools in New South Wales. In 2005, it is anticipated that over 5,000 students will attend Crusaders Holiday and School camps and a further 25,000 will have heard Crusader staff speak at their schools.
Crusaders desires to help school students grow in their love and knowledge of Jesus Christ. We seek to equip students to be disciples of Jesus and to witness to their friends. As well as attending the CRU group at their school, we always look to encourage students to be involved in their local churches.

Islam In Action: UN Body OKs Call to Curb Religious Criticism

2009-03-27T12:43:00.001+11:00

Islam In Action: UN Body OKs Call to Curb Religious Criticism

"India, which normally votes along with the council's majority of developing nations, abstained in protest at the fact that Islam was the only religion specifically named as deserving protection."

Good on India for protesting against the ridiculous farce. If Mr Rudd is so eager to have a seat at the UN, and him being a professed Christian, will he make a protest as well.? I make a protest in the name of Christianity and every other religion, that we do not like being called filthy names and threatened by muslims. So are they going to be hauled over the coals and charged with whatever, when they insult anyone of the Christian Faith or anyone who is not a bloody muslim.
Give me a break.

Victim History vs. Jihad

2009-03-26T21:35:00.001+11:00

FrontPageMagazine.com | 3/12/2009 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI).

Reprinted with Permission From Bill Warner

Victim History vs. Jihad
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | 3/12/2009 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI).
FP: Bill Warner, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Warner: Thank you, Jamie, and Frontpage Magazine for having me.
FP: I would like to talk to you today about your view that the end of critical thought has arrived. First let me ask you, what exactly do you mean by critical thought?
Warner: Critical thought also can be called analytic thought or scientific analysis. A key element is that all sides of an idea are to be analyzed. There are no forbidden questions in critical thought. There is an appeal to logic and reason. Critical thought is not about feelings, but freedom of ideas.
Critical thought is the opposite of authoritative thought that is delivered fully developed by an “authority.” Authoritative thought is the use of power by controlling thought and ideas. Medieval scholasticism and Communist propaganda are examples of authoritative thought where there is no room in the public forum to disagree with the authority and if you do, you will be punished in some way. Authoritarian thought is the thought process of slavery. Freedom of thought is not allowed.
Two characteristics of critical reasoning are skepticism and humor. Skepticism means that all assumptions can be questioned. Everything is on the table. It may seem odd to have humor as part of critical thinking, but humor comes about as part of skepticism. Skepticism encourages humor because you are able to poke fun at any idea. One reason for the Mohammed cartoon riots was that Islam does not allow any skepticism or critical thought. There are no known Mohammed jokes in the Muslim world. We have jokes about God, Jesus, St. Peter, Moses, Satan and Adam. We can make a little joke at anybody’s expense because we can have freedom of thought. Humor stops at Mohammed’s door, because critical thought stops at Mohammed’s door.
FP: Why is critical thought being abandoned?
Warner: It stands in the way of the power of what I call (with a hat tip to George Orwell) the Newstate. We now live in a world that has brought together the government, universities and the media into one political system. The Newstate power determines what will be taught in schools, put into the news, and what can be discussed at forums and meetings. For instance, the Newstate prohibits our military from studying Islamic war doctrine. The State Department can only use standard political science methods to discuss Middle East and Asian policy.
The Newstate prohibits the study of political Islam in the Universities. The role of Islam in the history of slavery, the dhimmi (unbelievers living under Islamic rule) history, and the annihilation of kafir (unbeliever) civilizations is forbidden. The curriculum of the Universities only includes small samples from the Koran, the Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and the Hadith (his traditions). You can get a degree in Middle East Studies without ever reading the texts of the core doctrine of Islam.
At the Rotary Club or the universities, you can have a speaker who presents dawah or Islamic missionary propaganda, but no one can present a critical analysis of Islam. Any rational/critical/analytic study of their ideology is not given room at the table. Those who know about Islam are called bigots if they try to speak from knowledge. Only Muslims and those who are ignorant about Islam (the dhimmis) are allowed to speak. Ignorance has become the only acceptable point-of-view.
The next goal of the Newstate will be to declare critical thought to be hate-speech. Islam cannot sustain critical examination, so critical thought will be made immoral and evil by our dhimmi Newstate.
FP: Why is critical thought so vital in the study of Islam?
Warner: Up until 9/11, almost all thought in the Universities saw things from the viewpoint of Islam, not from the viewpoint of kafirs. Around 270 million people have died in jihad over the last 1400 years. Yet, according to the universities, Islam just expanded, there was no suffering. That is the Islamic view, not the kafir view. Mohammed laughed when kafir heads were thrown at his feet, but no university professor calls it barbaric.
On 9/11 our universities, who are supposed to be bastions of critical thought, were found to be dishing out Islamic propaganda for our culture, instead of facts. Our leaders—political, religious, and cultural—had all been educated about Islam. What did they learn? Islam was one of the great religions; the Islamic Golden Age was the high point of history and preserved European culture; the Crusades were an exercise in ignorance and bigotry, blah, blah… That was the university propaganda that had infected our civilization. We were blindsided by our own scholars.
The intellectual vacuum created a new breed of scholars—Bat Ye’or, Andrew Bostom, Robert Spencer, Serge Trifkovic, and a host of others who were not trained about Islam in college, but who used critical analysis to tackle the most pressing questions of the day: What is Islam? What does it mean to kafirs? This is the most important question to ask.
FP: Why is the kafir viewpoint so important?
Warner: The only thing that matters to the kafir about Islam is how it treats the kafir. What does it matter to a kafir if a Muslim tries to use the bathroom following the way of Mohammed? What do I care how a Muslim prays? Prayer and bathrooms do not concern me. I care about how Mohammed treated kafirs and that was horrible, terrible and the perfect example of how Muslims are to treat kafirs. Notice that this view is in contrast to how a Muslim sees Mohammed—that is the Muslim-centric view. They are never the same view.
The post-9/11 scholars viewed Islam from the standpoint of the victims—the kafirs and the dhimmis. The new scholars used critical thinking to define a new viewpoint of Islam—kafir-centric.
The answers from kafir-centric scholars about Islam all agree on what Islam and its history is. The kafir-centric thinkers agree as to what the current political situation means. This is remarkable. Note that they do not agree on what to do about it, but they all agree on the nature of the problem and not one of them agrees with the university/media/government, the Newstate, position on Islam.
Every critical thinker reaches the same conclusions. Why should this be a surprise? The very essence of critical thinking is being objective. The result does not depend upon the person. It is not an opinion, but an exercise in logic. Any person who performs the experiments can prove the truth or falseness of, say, Newton’s laws of motion.
It is the same with Islam. Anyone can start with the Koran, the Sira (the life of Mohammed) and the Hadith (his traditions) and they will arrive at the same conclusions as long as they use logic and analysis. Part of the analysis is whether you analyze the doctrine from the standpoint of a Muslim or a kafir. For instance, on the day that Mohammed killed 800 Jews in Medina it was a good thing from the standpoint of a believer, but a terrible day for the kafir Jews. Good from one point of view, but very bad from a kafir point of view.
There is a third view of Islamic scholarship—the dhimmi view. Dhimmis are kafirs that serve Islam. Dhimmis write about the doctrine of Islam just like the Muslims, but without the devotional overtones. The Newstate holds the dhimmi-centric view and wants to outlaw the kafir-centric school of thought.
FP: Why do you think they want to outlaw the kafir-centric school of thought?
Warner: Kafir-centric scholars can kick anybody’s butt in any argument or discussion about Islam. We are a mountain of facts and understand the mind of Islam. We can answer all of the questions with authority. We hold the high moral ground and yet, we are called bigots for our knowledge and labors. We are denied a forum in the public. Only the voice of the authority of the Newstate can speak about Islam.
Notice that when someone who is from the Newstate speaks, they never actual talk about any facts about Islam. Or if they do quote some fact, like George Bush with his half of a Koran verse, or Obama with his Golden Rule spin on one hadith, it is no more than a sentence they parse out of the doctrine.
Since the kafir-centric thinkers can overpower any of the drones from the Newstate, the main goal of the Newstate is to see that we do not get a forum. We are never invited to the party at the university when a dhimmi or Muslim speaks. If there is a multicultural “dialogue” we are never allowed to ask difficult questions. Our voices are not heard in the State department, the Pentagon or FBI. During Mumbai, we were never given any airtime. Face-time with any government/media/university official will not happen, because it cannot happen. At all times the Newstate tries to keep a Muslim brotherhood type around to be a Praetorian guard if they suspect anyone who actually knows Islam might show up.
When the Center for the Study of Political Islam was started, the basic assumption was that once the doctrine of political Islam was laid out in a clear language, kafirs would flock to it. But most of the population is filled with the Newstate platitudes and talks about moderate Muslims, etc. They are desperately ignorant and refuse to engage logical analysis.
I have seen religious leaders grow angry at a lecture about what Mohammed did to other religions. They were desperate not to know, and they remained arrogantly ignorant. So they will tell others about Islam based upon their ignorance. Ignorance is an acceptable point-of-view about Islam. Any dhimmi or Muslim can get a forum at any time; kafir-centric scholars are condemned as bigots and troublemakers and denied a place at the table.
FP: How are the Kafirs doing in the ideological battle?
Warner: We have to face the facts. Kafirs are losing on every front. We now live in a Christian-Muslim nation according to our commander-in-chief-dhimmi. Priests, professors, preachers, politicians, pundits and rabbis all line up in obedience to Mohammed. If placed anywhere near the doctrinal/historical facts about political Islam, they grow tense and tell you about the “nice Muslim” they have met. It seems as though every city has a “nice Muslim” that is passed from dhimmi leader to dhimmi leader, so they can all say they know one.
Actual knowledge about the true history and doctrine of political Islam is not only nil, but the desire to know more is nonexistent. Responses about Islam are denials about what Islam is and what it does. Liberal preachers and rabbis, for instance, are political Islam’s supporters and mouth tales about how well Islam and Judaism co-existed in the Middle Ages and how Jews and Muslims were fellow scholars. They refuse to engage in any sort of rational/critical/analytic discussion about Islam. The rest have different excuses, but they remain in the dhimmi camp.
Critical thinking is being abandoned as fast as Klan robes at an ACLU meeting. One thing is very clear—the enemy is no longer political Islam. The enemy of critical thought is the dhimmi. It is the dhimmis who carry water for Islam and do great damage to our civilization.
FP: Why are the dhimmis desperate not to know about Islam?
Warner: Money is the motivation of one set of dhimmis—the professors. Islam pours a great deal of money into the university system. It is very easy to purchase a professor and a department. Everything from building funds, professorships, trips, and grants purchase the loyalty of dhimmi universities. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you. We must also include the dhimmi political types being bribed by the Saudis.
The other answer is laziness and fear, with fear in the lead. Everyone starts off at less than zero. The universities taught us that Islam was good, Golden Age, yada, yada or at worst—benign. The Newstate loves Islam just like they love illegal immigrants. Just watch CNN, read the NY Times and listen to the President. Islamic life is good, and where it is not good, it is our fault—colonialism and Bush. So if you float downstream, why would you want to learn anything?
The Newstate making the learning process difficult also helps laziness. Islam deliberately made the Koran, the Sira and the Hadith hard to understand and the professors went along with the Islam-is-hard propaganda. The Koran is notorious for never being read, much less understood. Why? The universities did not want to make it simple.
But we come to the big one—fear. Everyone has a clue that Islam’s dualistic nature contains unlimited violence, but that clue remains in the background. Saying you are afraid of Islam is like a white woman saying she is afraid of black males. Expressing your fear is proof of your racism and bigotry.
There is a larger fear—what if the boogieman really is underneath the bed? What will we do? People are desperately ignorant. Otherwise intelligent people believe the most contradictory things, but wind up with—Islam must be good, it just has to be good, because if it is not good, I cannot imagine what we will do. There is fear. Desperate fear.
What if the preacher or rabbi who attended the interfaith dialogs finds out that the imam was a liar? His congregation does not want to hear it. What if the politician finds out about the true nature of Islam? The media and the Moslem voters rule him. The media is so intellectually corrupt that they are past discussion.
If you don’t know, you don’t have to deal with it. Ignorance is good. All the leaders are ignorant, they are rich and powerful, and so they must be right. Turn off your mind and float downstream. Dhimmis are floaters.
FP: How can we educate these dhimmis and change their point of view?
Warner: It turns out that there is one aspect of Islam that even dhimmis will pay attention to—the history of the victim, in particular, their own victims. Our Tears of Jihad project teaches about just that—the history of the victims of jihad.
Based upon victim history, we have created a new idea in newsletters. The idea is not to present any facts about Islam. Facts about Islam produce panic, denial and fear. We decided to present the suffering of a group without the doctrine that causes it. Our goal is to show religious leadership and individuals what suffering is visited upon their group.
The first one of these was the Bulletin of Jew Hatred (the term Jew hatred comes from Bostom’s wonderful Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism). We have added the Bulletin of Christian Persecution and the Bulletin of the Oppression of Women. The Bulletin of Cultural Annihilation and the Bulletin of Asian Annihilation are in the works. The Bulletins give a summary with a link to the original article. We only report actual events, not blogs, editorials or comments. The Bulletin has the motto: Facts without comments—we collect the dots; you connect them.
Each Bulletin gives a very short summary of each of the actual events—who, what, when, where, but no why. The no “why” makes it easy for everybody to read, even the left, since all comments that relate to the actual doctrine or history of political Islam are called right wing or conservative. It is peculiar, but to have knowledge about the actual doctrine and history of political Islam is being conservative. That leaves ignorance to be the official policy of the progressives/liberals/left. Knowledge is considered to be the basis of bigotry, ignorance is considered to be virtue, according to the ethics of the Newstate.
The Bulletins come out weekly. It is like a drumbeat—each week the events roll on and the steady stream of news tells another story that is not told by the Newstate media.
FP: How has the Bulletin of Jew Hatred been received?
Warner: I have been told by one of the first readers of Jew Hatred that she thought herself to be well informed, but every event in the Bulletin was new to her. A reader of the Christian Bulletin said that he never knew that this was happening to Christians. This is the story that the Newstate refuses to tell. It is the story you have to decide not to see and not to report.
We are finding that people are receptive. Since we don’t have any comments, this means that they can’t throw up the barrier of partisan politics or those comments are bigoted opinions. A liberal rabbi said that he liked the no comment, just the facts.
So, we have created a stealth weapon that flies under the PC, multicultural radar. But in designing it, we realized that critical analysis was not a good general approach. People don’t want to hear anything bad about Islam, but they will examine their own battle causalities.
The key word is here is their “own.” This is the reason we have a Bulletin for every group. Hopefully, this idea will educate and illuminate the problem with political Islam. If you are interested in our newsletter or Bulletins, go to politicalislam.com and sign up.
I’d like to take this time if I could to make a pitch for help. We are looking for an editor for the Hindu bulletin.
We need bird dogs, people who can help get the Bulletins to relevant organizations and groups. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, women, intellectuals, artists, pagans, gays, free people everywhere—the bulletins document your suffering on a weekly basis. Help us educate groups that directly influence these people.
If you want to participate in any way with the Bulletins, please email me at: bw@politicalislam.com.
FP: Bill Warner, thank you for joining us.
Warner: Thank you Jamie for this opportunity to speak to your readers.

Aussies needed.

2009-03-26T21:07:00.003+11:00

I believe we need more Aussies to join this fight against the current muslim/sharia law/jihadist situation. I know there are many bloggers out there who are just as concerned as I am.
When Chris Logan got his FACEBOOK up and running, I thought..."excellent job" There are many people on this network and as far as I am aware, there is one other Australian besides myself in this particular network. I think the more people on the one network can be a formidable force, especially one that holds hands across the seas.

You can get there through my links.

You can access my FB by following this link. Diane johnson

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=1050993764&ref=profile

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Judeo-Christian Violence vs. Islamic Violence

2009-03-26T20:59:00.002+11:00

This is a very timely article. More in response to muslims against sharia, equating crusades with islamists. There is NO comparison except in the sense that the Crusades happened in response to muslim rapes, pillages and murders. An excellent essay from Raymond Ibrahim on MEF.

Conflating History with Theology
Judeo-Christian Violence vs. Islamic Violence
by Raymond Ibrahim
Jihad Watch
March 15, 2009

http://www.meforum.org/2105/judeo-christian-violence-vs-islamic-violence

Especially after the terrorist strikes of 9/11, Islam has often been accused of being intrinsically violent. Many point to the Koran and other Islamic scriptures and texts as proof that violence and intolerance vis-à-vis non-Muslims is inherent to Islam. In response, a number of apologetics have been offered. The fundamental premise of almost all of these is that Islam's purported violence—as found in Islamic scriptures and history—is no different than the violence committed by other religious groups throughout history and as recorded in their scriptures, such as Jews and Christians. The argument, in short, is that it is not Islam per se but rather human nature that is prone to violence.
So whenever the argument is made that the Koran as well as the historical words and deeds of Islam's prophet Muhammad and his companions evince violence and intolerance, the counter-argument is immediately made: What about the historical atrocities committed by the Hebrews in years gone by and as recorded in their scriptures (AKA, the Old Testament)? What about the brutal cycle of violence Christians have committed in the name of their faith against both fellow Christians and non-Christians?
Several examples are then offered from the Bible as well as Judeo-Christian history. Two examples especially—one biblical, the other historic—are often cited as paradigmatic of the religious violence inherent to both Judaism and Christianity and usually put an end to the debate of whether Islam is unique in regards to its teachings and violence.
The first is the military conquest of the land of Canaan by the Hebrews (c. 1200 BC), which has increasingly come to be characterized as a "genocide." Yahweh told Moses:
But of the cities of these peoples which Yahweh your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them—the Hittite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite—just as Yahweh your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against Yahweh your God (Deuteronomy 20: 16-18).
So Joshua [Moses' successor] conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as Yahweh God of Israel had commanded (Joshua 10:40).
The second example revolves around the Crusader wars waged by Medieval European Christians. To be sure, the Crusades were a "counter-attack" on Islam—not an unprovoked assault as is often depicted by revisionist history. A united Christendom sought to annex the Holy Land of Jerusalem, which, prior to its conquest by Islam in the 7th century, was an integral part of Christendom for nearly 400 years.
Moreover, Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the Crusades were launched in 1096. For example, in 1071, the Seljuk Turks had crushed the Byzantines in the pivotal battle of Manzikert and in effect annexed a major chunk of Byzantine Anatolia (opening the way for the eventual capture of Constantinople centuries later). A few decades earlier, the Fatimid caliph al-Hakim desecrated and destroyed a number of important churches—such as the Church of St. Mark in Egypt and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem—and decreed several even more oppressive than usual decrees against Christians and Jews. It is in this backdrop that Pope Urban called for the Crusades:
From the confines of Jerusalem and the city of Constantinople a horrible tale has gone forth and very frequently has been brought to our ears, namely, that a race from the kingdom of the Persians [i.e., Muslim Turks]…has invaded the lands of those Christians and has depopulated them by the sword, pillage and fire; it has led away a part of the captives into its own country, and a part it has destroyed by cruel tortures; it has either entirely destroyed the churches of God or appropriated them for the rites of its own religion (from the chronicles of Robert the Monk).
Nonetheless, history attests that these Crusades were violent and bloody. After breaching the walls of Jerusalem in 1099, the Crusaders slaughtered almost every single inhabitant of the Holy City. According to the Medieval chronicle, the Gesta Danorum "the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles." Moreover, there is the 1204 sack of Constantinople, wherein Crusader slew Christian.
In light of the above—one a prime example of "Hebraic" violence from the Bible, the other from Christian history—why should Islam be the one religion always characterized as intrinsically violent, simply because its holy book and its history also contain violence? Why should non-Muslims always point to the Koran and ancient history as evidence of Islam's violence while never looking to their own scriptures and history?
While such questions are popular, they reveal a great deal of confusion between history and theology, between the temporal actions of men and what are understood to be the immutable words of God. The fundamental error being that Judeo-Christian history—which is violent—is being conflated with Islamic theology—which commands violence. Of course all religions have had their fair share of violence and intolerance towards the "other." Whether this violence is ordained by God or whether warlike man merely wished it thus is the all-important question.
Old Testament violence is an interesting case in point. Yahweh clearly ordered the Hebrews to annihilate the Canaanites and surrounding peoples. Such violence is therefore an expression of God's will, for good or ill. Regardless, all the historic violence committed by the Hebrews and recorded in the Old Testament is just that—history. It happened; God commanded it. But it revolved around a specific time and place and was directed against a specific people. At no time did such violence go on to become standardized or codified into Jewish law (i.e., the Halakha).
This is where Islamic violence is unique. Though similar to the violence of the Old Testament—commanded by God and manifested in history—certain aspects of Islamic violence have become standardized in Islamic law (i.e., Sharia) and apply at all times. Thus while the violence found in the Koran is in fact historical, its ultimate significance is theological, or, more specifically, doctrinal. Consider the following Koranic verses, better known as the "sword-verses":
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the pagans wherever you find them—take them [captive], besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due [i.e. submit to Islam], then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful (K 9:5).
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger [i.e. do not adhere to Islamic law], nor acknowledge the religion of Truth [i.e. Islam], from the people of the book [i.e. Jews and Christians], until they pay tribute with willing submission, and feel themselves utterly subdued (K 9:29).
As with Old Testament verses where Yahweh commanded the Hebrews to attack and slay their neighbors, the sword-verses also have a historical context. Allah first issued these commandments after the Muslims under Muhammad's leadership had grown sufficiently strong enough to invade their Christian and pagan neighbors. But unlike the bellicose verses and anecdotes of the Old Testament, the sword-verses became fundamental to Islam's subsequent relationship to both the "people of the book" (Christians and Jews) and the "pagans" (Hindus, Buddhists, animists, etc). For instance, based on 9:5, Islamic law mandates that pagans and polytheists must either convert to Islam or be killed, while 9:29 is the primary source of Islam's well-known discriminatory practices against Christians and Jews.
In fact, based on the sword-verses (as well as countless other Koranic verses and oral traditions attributed to Muhammad), Islam's scholars, sheikhs, muftis, imams, and qadis throughout the ages have all reached the consensus—binding on the entire Muslim community—that Islam is to be at perpetual war with the non-Muslim world until the former subsumes the latter. (It is widely held by Muslim scholars that since the sword-verses are among the final revelations on the topic of Islam's relationship to non-Muslims, that they alone have abrogated some 200 of the Koran's earlier and more tolerant verses, such as "there is no coercion in religion" 2:256.) Famous Muslim scholar Ibn Khaldun, who is revered in the West for his "progressive" insights, also puts to rest the notion that jihad is "defensive" warfare:
In the Muslim community, the holy war [jihad] is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and the obligation to convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force...The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... They are merely required to establish their religion among their own people. That is why the Israeilites after Moses and Joshua remained unconcerned with royal authority [e.g. a "caliphate"]. Their only concern was to establish their religion [not spread it to the nations]… But Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations (The Muqudimmah, vol. 1 pg. 473).
Perhaps what is most unique about the sword-verses is the fact that when juxtaposed to their Old Testament counterparts, they are especially distinct for using language that transcends time and space, inciting believers to attack and slay non-believers today no less than yesterday. Yahweh commanded the Hebrews to kill Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites—all specific peoples rooted to a specific time and place. At no time did Yahweh give an open-ended command for the Hebrews, and by extension their descendants the Jews, to fight and kill gentiles. On the other hand, though Islam's original enemies were, like Judaism's, historical (e.g., Christian Byzantines and pagan Persians), the Koran rarely singles them out by their proper names. Instead, Muslims were (and are) commanded to fight the people of the book—"until they pay tribute with willing submission and feel themselves utterly subdued" (Koran 9:29) and to "slay the pagans wherever you find them" (Koran 9:5).
The two conjunctions "until" (hata) and "wherever" (haythu) demonstrate the perpetual and ubiquitous nature of these commandments: there are still "people of the book" who have yet to be "utterly subdued" (especially in the Americas, Europe, and Israel) and "pagans" to be slain "wherever" one looks (especially Asia and sub-Saharan Africa). In fact, the salient feature of almost all of the violent commandments in Islamic scriptures is their open-ended and generic nature: "Fight them [non-Muslims] until there is no more chaos and all religion belongs to Allah" (Koran 8:39). Also, in a well-attested tradition that appears in the most authentic hadith collections, Muhammad proclaims:
I have been commanded to wage war against mankind until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and that they establish prostration prayer, and pay the alms-tax [i.e., convert to Islam]. If they do so, their blood and property are protected [Sahih Muslim C9B1N31; also in Sahih Bukhari B2N24].
Aside from the divine words of the Koran, Muhammad's pattern of behavior—his "Sunna" or "example"—is an extremely important source of legislation in Islam. Muslims are exhorted to emulate Muhammad in all walks of life: "You have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern [of conduct]" (Koran 33:21). And Muhammad's pattern of conduct vis-à-vis non-Muslims is quite explicit. Sarcastically arguing against the concept of "moderate" Islam, terrorist Osama bin Laden, who enjoys half the Arab-Islamic world's support per an al-Jazeera poll, portrays the prophet's Sunna thus:
"Moderation" is demonstrated by our prophet who did not remain more than three months in Medina without raiding or sending a raiding party into the lands of the infidels to beat down their strongholds and seize their possessions, their lives, and their women" (from The Al-Qaeda Reader, page 56).
In fact, based on both the Koran and Muhammad's Sunna, pillaging and plundering infidels, enslaving their children, and placing their women in concubinage is well founded (e.g. 4:24, 4:92, 8:69, 24:33, 33:50, etc.). And the concept of "Sunna"—which is what 90% of the billion plus Muslims, the "Sunnis," are named after—essentially asserts that anything performed or approved by Muhammad and his early companions is applicable for Muslims today no less than yesterday. This does not mean that Muslims in mass are wild hedonists who live only to plunder and rape. But it does mean that those particular persons who are naturally inclined to such activities, and who also happen to be Muslim, can—and do—quite easily justify their actions by referring to the "Sunna of the Prophet"—the way al-Qaeda, for example, justifies its attacks on 9/11 where innocents, including women and children, were killed: Muhammad authorized his followers to use catapults during their siege of the town of Taif in 630 A.D., though he was aware that women and children were sheltered there. Also, when asked if it was permissible to launch night raids or set fire to the fortifications of the infidels if women and children were among them, the prophet is said to have responded, "They are from among them" (Sahih Muslim B19N4321).
While law-centric and legalistic, Judaism has no such equivalent to the Sunna; the words and deeds of the patriarchs, though recorded in the Old Testament, never went on to be part of Jewish law. Neither Abraham's "white-lies," nor Jacob's perfidy, nor Moses' short-fuse, nor David's adultery, nor Solomon's philandering ever went on to instruct Jews or Christians. They were merely understood to be historical actions perpetrated by fallible men who were often punished by God for their less than ideal behavior.
As for Christianity, much of the Old Testament law was abrogated by Jesus. "Eye for an eye" gave way to "turn the other cheek." Totally loving God and one's neighbor became supreme law (Matt 22:38-40). Furthermore, Jesus' "Sunna"—as in "What would Jesus do?"—is characterized by altruism. The New Testament contains absolutely no exhortations to violence. Still, there are some who strive to portray Jesus as having a similar militant ethos as Muhammad by quoting the verse where Jesus—who "spoke to the multitudes in parables and without a parable spoke not" (Matt 13:34)—said, "I come not to bring peace but a sword" (Matt 10:34). But based on the context of this statement, it is clear that Jesus was not commanding violence against non-Christians, but was predicting that strife will often exist between Christian converts and their environment—a prediction that was only too true as early Christians, far from taking up the sword, passively perished by the sword in martyrdom (as they still do today in many Muslim nations). At any rate, how can one honestly compare this one New Testament verse that metaphorically mentions the word "sword" to the literally hundreds of Koranic injunctions and statements by Muhammad that clearly command Muslims to take up a very real sword against non-Muslims?
And it is from here that one can best appreciate the Crusades. However one interprets these wars—as offensive or defensive, just or unjust—it is evident that they were not based on the "Sunna" of Jesus, who exhorted his followers to "love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you" (Matt 5:44).
In fact, far from suggesting anything intrinsic to Christianity, the Crusades ironically help better explain Islam. For what the Crusades demonstrated once and for all is that, irrespective of religious teachings—indeed, in the case of these so-called "Christian" Crusades, despite them—man is in fact predisposed to violence and intolerance. But this begs the question: If this is how Christians behaved—who are commanded to love, bless, and do good to their enemies who hate, curse, and persecute them—how much more can be expected of Muslims who, while sharing the same violent tendencies, are further validated by the Deity's command to attack, kill, and plunder non-believers?
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2009-03-25T16:30:00.003+11:00

I am now a part of Chris Logans network, ...from Islam In Action, as well as a few other prominent networks. From here, it is easier to be a part of some great networks such as Ali Sina, Robert Spencer and some other people whose work is admired and respected. Of course there are people who seems to be hagglers and sceptics of all sorts of things, but hey, we are all allowed to have our own opinions.
There is a group I joined....Muslims against sharia. Now I am hoping these people are genuine, and not practicing tagiyah. They do want to stop the violence etc, which is great. But I am yet to hear from them on whether they are happy to let people practice whatever religion they want to...in peace...or do they simply want peace - after everyone else has converted to islam.? Are they willing to be a part of the wider community? And share in all it does. I have been hearing from 'experts' who say there is no such thing as a moderate muslim. They are either muslim or not. If they believe in the koran then they revere old Mo. And I am afraid I can have no respect for anyone who follows this pedophile, raiding, raping, thief, madman, self-proclaimed prophet, or thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread.
I am willing to wait and find out where their true allegiances lie.

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Islam In Action: Demoting Islam’s Religion Status

2009-03-24T19:50:00.000+11:00

Islam In Action: Demoting Islam’s <em>Religion</em> Status

I urge everyone to read this excellent article. Thinking back to when Australia would not let notorious Gerry Adams from the IRA into Australia, I thought it was kind of strange at the time. I can't help but wonder though, that if he had of labelled his terrorist group as a religion then he would have been welcomed with open arms just like the devil spawn from iran Mohammad Khatami is welcomed here by Anglican Arch Bishop Philip Freier, the treasonous leftard, who has helped this ex-prez of Iran Mohammad Khatami to talk at Latrobe Uni THIS Thursday night, 7:15 at the Western Lecture Hall. Islam should be classified for what it is...a terrorist organisation..it is NOT a religion.

Victorian Islamic body tried to put a company out of business

2009-03-24T16:19:00.001+11:00

Islamic council 'defamed halal firm for market monopoly'
Posted Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:17pm AEDT
Updated Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:16pm AEDT

A court has heard a Victorian Islamic body tried to put a company out of business so it could monopolise the certification of meat for consumption by Muslims.

The court heard the Islamic Co-ordinating Council of Victoria wanted a monopoly on certifying halal meat, an industry worth hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

A statement of claim filed with the court shows the council sent letters to a dozen abattoirs defaming a business called Aus-Halal that it believed was its competition.

It states the letter wrongly claimed that Aus-Halal was not certifying meat properly and was threatening exports to Muslim countries.

Abdul Ayan from Aus-Halal claims he was brought into hatred, contempt and ridicule because of the letters and his business suffered.

The hearing continues.