Saturday, September 6, 2008

Various articles from JW & DW.

"Time to stop jihadist Islam in Europe"
Why can't any American politician speak this way? Why are Eldad and Wilders among the handful of politicians anywhere in the world who will speak this way? "MK Eldad: 'Time to Stop Jihadist Islam in Europe,'” by Yoni Kempinsky for Israel National News, September 4:
( Knesset Member Aryeh Eldad held a press conference on Wednesday announcing a first-of-its-kind summit in Jerusalem for the establishment of a defensive coalition of European legislators. “I believe that it's time to look reality in the eye, not to lower our eyes, not to be afraid of the reality,” declared Eldad. “As a physician, I can tell you that a patient who denies his disease is doomed.” The new coalition will be geared towards those European Parliament members who believe that the expansion of Islam poses a severe threat to Western civilization. Eldad said that there is a growing understanding in Europe that even though most of the governments surrender to the political power of the Muslim immigration, “Europe must stand and stop it. It's time, it’s almost the last possible moment, to stop Jihadist Islam in Europe.” Regarding the planned summit, MK Eldad announced that it will take place on December 14th and 15th. “[Attendees] will announce the creation of the alliance,” Eldad explained, ”and they will read the Jerusalem Declaration here. It will be a two-part meeting, the first one will be the practical part. The legislators will work on various laws and bills for which the drafts are being disseminated now in Europe, and work [is underway] among these parties. And the second day will be the educational day.” INN has video. Posted by Robert at September 4, 2008 from
Kol hakavod lo. Let me emphasis that Eldad is taking a great risk. For years, anyone who has dared speak the truth has been branded a Kachist or simply detained on unstated charges in an undisclosed location until and unless their lawyer finds them. We have been looking for someone in gov't to say what the people, ALL Israelis-- Jews, Arabs (those who either themselves are brave enough to stand up to Islam or want someone else to) and others--, know: the "Palestinians" and their supporters do NOT want anything short of the end of Israel and ethnic cleansing of the Middle East, elimination of ALL Jews here. Posted by: MosheC at September 4, 2008 4:50 PM
Moshe - yes. And in fact the full-on jihad-minded sharia-minded Muslims don't just want to destroy the Jewish state of Israel and murder or reduce to dhimmitude every Jew in it. They seek nothing less than total domination over the entire WORLD, with all its peoples either transformed into mindless murderous Submitters (denying and destroying and spitting upon their own prior identity and history and languages and groveling to the Arabs, 'the best of peoples'), or crushed beneath the Muslim boot as despised and exploited dhimmis {combination cash cow, chew toy and punching bag), or...dead, dead by the millions, 270 million kafir already sacrificed to 'allah' by Muslims in 1350 years of jihad, each murdered kafir soul viewed by Muslims as the Muslim murderer's ticket to paradise. Islam is to Arabs as Nazism was to 'Aryans'; the only difference is that no non-Aryan could become a Nazi, whereas those attacked or conquered by Muslims can 'change identity' and become murderers and slavers themselves - though if they're non-Arab they will still NEVER be quite as good as the 'real thing', the *Arab* Muslims, and can expect to be treated with barely disguised contempt. Joseph Schacht, 'An Introduction to Islamic Law': "The basis of the Islamic attitude towards unbelievers is the law of war: they must be either converted, or subjugated, or killed". I hope that Eldad and the others, in the 'education' sessions, will be meditating upon the wise counsel of people like Schacht and Antoine Fattal, concerning Muslim theory, and upon the bone-chilling history of Muslim practice which was unearthed by people like Bostom and Bat Yeor and (for the East) by K S Lal and Sita Ram Goel. Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at September 4, 2008 5:41 PM
Aryeh Eldad is a celebrated physician, famous for his work on the treatment of burns. He is also the son of Israel Eldad, author of "The Jewish Revolution" - a book that looks better every day -- and the co-author (with Moshe Aumann) of the very entertaining "Chronicles" that were simply mock-ups of modern newspapers, in which all of the news was Biblical. Endlessly fascinating, for some reason, to read the Biblical accounts in modern newspaper format, complete with appropriate headlines and accompanying maps or other illustrative material. He is, thus, a child of Revisionists, but unlike Livni and Olmert, has not flattered himself into making a "journey" into soi-disant "realism" as they have, so proud of themselves for having abandoned what they call the "certainties" of their parents and instead adopted the far more absurd "certainties" of Israel's bien-pensants, the ones who think it de rigueur to have a "Palestinian friend" (which friend tells them what the Arab street thinks, or so they think), who is merely a plausible and sweet snake in cafe-habitue's clothing. It is those who, like A. Carlebach (see the paragraph of his on Islam, quoted by Edward Said -- who stupidly thought no one would ever take such a thing seriously, when now every Infidel reader who reads "The Question of Palestine" will find himself agreeing with Carlebach, not with Said -- that I have mentioned repeatedly at JW)who have been proven to be right. And it is those who, like Moshe Sharon and Raphael Israeli, Israeli scholars of Islam who understand the meaning, and hence grasp the full menace, of Islam, or like Aryeh Eldad, who understand that what was once seen merely as a problem for Israel, imperfectly understood, is now grasped, by the most intelligent and unafraid and far-seeing in Western Europe and North America, and the war on Israel recognized as merrely a local, or Lesser Jihad, a Jihad that has no limits, and that threatens, having begun just a little later than the war on Israel, all of Western Europe, and then, with a slight decalage because we have thankfully not allowed such an inundation of Muslims (or is that merely dumb luck, because America is further away from the Muslim countries than is Europe?), North America as well. Eldad understands that. Olmert and those who would replace Olmert, are yesterday's men. They are the ones, in Israel and without, who are still intent on "peace-processing," the "fourcoreissues" boys such as Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, Aaron Miller, Richard Haass, and "solution" advocates such as the execrable Condoleezza Rice, confused and wandering -- oh, on fancy American government jets -- like a disoriented Leibnizian monad, through the universe, without ever stopping to study, to ponder, to think. Here, by the way, is a previous appearance of Aryeh Eldad at JW, when he was responsible for demonstrating that Israel's first Arab minister was publicly willing to admit that his loyalty was to Islam, not to the state of Israel: Israel's first Arab minister says Islamic law supersedes Israeli law. A Which Side Are You On Alert: "Majadle Justifies Destruction of Temple Remains," by Gil Ronen for Israel National News (thanks to Neil): "( The Jewish State's first Arab minister, Raleb Majadle, declared Wednesday that as far as Jerusalem's Temple Mount is concerned, Israeli sovereignty is nonexistent and Islam rules. The minister spoke in his official capacity as Minister of Science, Culture and Sport, from the Knesset podium, in response to a parliamentary question by MK Aryeh Eldad (NU/NRP). MK Eldad's question referred to the unsupervised digging carried out by the Muslim authorities (the "Wakf") on the Temple Mount during the summer, by means of heavy machinery. "I received a series of photographs of digs on the Temple Mount near the Dome of the Rock," the parliamentary question read. "The police are present on the scene but there is no supervision by the Department of Antiquities regarding finds taken out of the digs, and there is a serious concern that they could be destroyed by the Wakf. What will be done in the short term to stop the destruction of the remains of the Temple?" Speaking before the Knesset plenum, Majadle replied that the digs carried out on the Mount were coordinated, accompanied and supervised by the Antiquities Authority. "I have worked in recent months to create understandings between the Antiquities Authority and the Islamic Wakf because I believe that this is the only way," he said. MK Eldad asked Majadle pointedly from the plenum floor: "Does Israeli law apply on the Temple Mount or does it not?" Majadle answered: "In my opinion, certainly not." Eldad reminded him that in answering parliamentary questions he speaks for the entire government, but Majadle was unfazed: "I will say my opinion. Before I am a government minister I am first and foremost a person and a citizen and a Muslim. With all due respect for the law, the law was meant to respect the religion, the person and the citizen and protect him, and not the other way around, enslave him," he explained. "Therefore I say clearly: Al-Aksa, Al-Haram al-Sharif [as the Temple Mount is called by Muslims – ed.], cannot be under the authority of Israeli law." Eldad interrupted him repeatedly, reminding him that he had sworn allegiance to the State of Israel and its laws, but Majadle insisted: "I hereby inform you, esteemed MK Eldad, that I may be a minister for one, two or ten years but I was born a Muslim, and a Muslim I shall die. I respect Israeli law... but if there is a contradiction between the law and my deep faith as a Muslim, I announce that I will know what to choose." Immediately after this exchange, MK Eldad wrote to the Prime Minister demanding that Majadle be fired from the government. In addition, he asked the Attorney General to open a police investigation against him, on suspicion of breach of trust. Indeed, he should be fired." [Posted at November 14, 2007 8:47 AM] Soon enough, most of the rest of the Infidel world will realize that whenever a real Muslim -- as opposed to a Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only Muslim -- is entrusted with a government job, he too will show himself to be -- he can do no other -- loyal to Islam and to fellow members of the Umma, and will prove a dangerous promoter of, and Defender of, the Faith, that Faith being not only a religion but a Total Belief-System, including a politics and a geopolitics that threaten, physically and civilizationally, all non-Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, tutti quanti. Posted by: Hugh at September 4, 2008 5:51 PM
How is an infidel supposed to tell the difference between a real Muslim and a for-identification-purposes-only Muslim? How are we to know that the latter is not a real Muslim in deep cover? If their doctrine sanctions lying then there's no reason it can't go on for years, if not decades - until the time is right. He can maintain his not-really-Muslim status even as he raises children to be devout Muslims ready for jihad, since no one sees what goes on inside the home or at the mosque.
Isn't that what we are seeing in Europe now - parents who seem more or less secular and assimilated but whose children are waging war on the infidel?
As for the US, dumb luck helped in that we didn't colonize the Muslim world. We also didn't need rebuilding after WWII. But we started raising our immigrant numbers - in the name of diversity, of course (Thank you, Ted Kennedy!) - in the 1960s. Arab immigration has actually gone UP instead of down, just since 9/11. The US isn't so bad that they don't want to come here. We might have been lucky but now we seem to have a death wish. Posted by: PMK at September 4, 2008 6:36 PM
"Knesset Member Aryeh Eldad held a press conference on Wednesday announcing a first-of-its-kind summit in Jerusalem for the establishment of a defensive coalition of European legislators." How about looking reality in the eye in Israel? Is this man a candidate to lead Israel? Israel needs a leader, right about now. Posted by: PMK at September 4, 2008 6:41 PM
Call me a romantic. But when I read about this meeting, being a longtime Tolkien and Rowlings fan, I thought - what do we call this? The Council of Elrond? The Convening of the Order of the Phoenix? Or turning from fiction to actual history, let's allow ourselves to imagine the frantic diplomacy, the councils, the conversations, that preceded momentous decisions in the past - in particular, those meetings and those choices that, at the eleventh hour and fifty-ninth second, cobbled together the alliances which faced and fought the Jihad at Lepanto and then, later, at Vienna, and essentially saved Western Europe. In the archived comments here, in January 2006, I came across mention of one Marco d'Aviano:"On April 27, 2003, John Paul II beatified a 17th-century Capuchin priest famed as a preacher of crusades against the Islamic armies of the Ottoman Turks. Marco d’Aviano, known as a fiery orator, persuaded European Christian monarchs to lift [i.e., to repel] the Ottoman siege against Vienna in 1683". (Somehow I suspect Tolkien, a devout and history-minded Catholic, might have had d'Aviano at least partly in mind when he created his fictional 'Gandalf', the White Rider.) But now it is not a fiery Capuchin priest but a sober and courageous Israeli Jew, Arieh Eldad, who summons to Jerusalem (to Jerusalem!) the worried, the knowledgeable, from lands of former Christendom - Denmark, Italy, Holland, Belgium, Sweden, Switzerland and Britain - at the last possible minute, as Muslim Iran races for the atomic bomb and we go – heart-stoppingly - right down to the wire. What better place than Jerusalem for the kafir to stand up and declare the free world's allegiance to freedom and the principle of the sanctity of human life, and our utter rejection of and resistance to the murderous slave ideology which is Political Islam with its devastating anti-human systems of Jihad and Sharia? If those present can rise to the occasion, it may be that the history books a thousand years from now will still talk about the Jerusalem Declaration. I am a Christian. But the prayer that comes to mind on behalf of Arieh Eldad, is this from the Krias Shema, as quoted by Chaim Potok in his novel, 'My Name is Asher Lev':
"In the Name of the LORD, the G-d of Israel:
May Michael be at my right hand, Gabriel at my left,
Before me Uriel, behind me Raphael
And above my head the divine presence of G-d. Amen and Amen."
May the four great Archangels and the pillar of fire and cloud be with Arieh as he prepares and as he conducts this council. Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at September 4, 2008 11:56 PM
It's like trying to convince people that the Volcano that has been lying dormant beneath them is about to erupt. Get yer ass arrested for disturbing the peace.
I fear the sky will fill with ash before the message we spread is heard. Islam is a lie and truth is killing it. Posted by: Alaskan at September 5, 2008 1:29 AM
After Fitna came out, I offered the following on JW last March. Maybe the conference could have a look: The critical mass that is needed now is for indigenous Europeans to take up Wilder's call and remove the present bunch of Trojan-horse muddle-headed elites from their governments. This should desirably be done by the ballot box but if that takes too long then by a Ukraine-style orange revolution in the streets. After these governments are replaced one-by-one, their new leaders should resign their countries from the traitorous EU until Brussels eventually becomes a shell of useless empty buildings. Once the elite traitors both locally and in Brussels have lost their power, it will be time to launch the Tenth Crusade, basically ejecting all Islamo-fascist influence from Europe. Stop immigration, abolish hate-speech and similar laws, close mosques and madrasses, deport foreign imans, disallow meetings of more than 5 Muslims, disallow public prayer by Muslims, disallow Muslim customs. Fire all Muslims in government, remove all citizenship papers, passports, and privileges for Muslims, deny European citizenship to all Muslims born in Europe since 1970 (unless they Apostate and declare primary loyalty to the state and remain on probation for 10 years). Offer free passage to an Islamic country of choice to all who want to practice Islam. The Tenth Crusade should be done by each country individually as soon as the population and new leaders are ready. As soon as one nation successfully executes the Tenth Crusade, others will follow. However, if two or three can act together that would be more effective psychologically on all Europeans. The sooner Europeans recognize that the Tenth Crusade is the only option that will save them from totalitarian Islam, the better. Islam is reaching a critical mass state in some European countries already. From what I read the average European is most likely more aware of the threat from Islam than the average American. Due to our Administration's inability or cowardice to conduct a war-propaganda campaign among our people and against our enemies, the American people and its Beltway kakistocracy are blissfully unaware of the serious degree of the Islamic threat. That goes for not only Bush et al but all three of the top remaining presidential candidates. Notice that the battle with Islam is hardly mentioned in the campaign speeches, although McCain seems to recognize the threat better than Osama and Clinton. America will have to suffer another 9/11 to get the nation riled up on a WWII-style war-footing. Hopefully, whoever leads us then, will have the fortitude to launch the American Tenth Crusade without limit. However, if Europeans come to realize in time that they are next up on the gangplank to a caliphate tyranny and decide on counterattacking with the Tenth Crusade instead, that might wake up America in time without another 9/11. It might… I hope so. But this time Europe must save itself first without counting on American help. The American people are just not juiced up enough right now - they mostly have their heads in the sand. But if the Europeans' Tenth Crusade fails and a caliphate is established that controls British and French (and Russian?) nukes, the stage will be set for Armageddon, and the supposed coming of the Twelfth Iman, according to the Shi'ite superstition. The Muslims would of course love to have a nuclear exchange between America and a caliphate Europe. Kill two of Allah's enemies at once! As shown in Fitna, the clock is ticking. Six months later I wouldn't change anything. Jimmy B Posted by: Jimmy Bones at September 5, 2008 3:14 AM
Now it is up to Americans to fight:
- do not vote for the infant-killer;
- vote for Mc Cain and Sarah Palin;
- explain to all people the extreme pro-infanticide (authentic) opinion of the killer of infants candidate;
- encourage all people to vote for Mac Cain;
- take proxies to vote also in the name of your to old grand-mother or your sick friends;
- take your grand-father with you for voting.It is the most efficient time-use for the next two months if you, American citizens, wish to defeat all kind of killers of human beings, like among others, jihadists. Posted by: Coaltaxopeuh at September 5, 2008 3:42 AM
Hurray! Some good news for once. We'll see how many attendees the conference attracts. Can't you hear the whining and complaining already? And imagine the headlines, "Right Wing Politicians Lead Attack on Islam". It's about bloody time. Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at September 5, 2008 7:10 AM
It will take some time if ever for rara koobama to at least declaratory start the fight against radical islam. That’s a long way from Romney's comment about PC & radical islam: "Radical Islam is evil, and he [McCain] will defeat it" Posted by: johnsawyer at September 5, 2008 7:57 AM
Why can't any American politician speak this way? Robert, you know the answer, a mix of different factors.
1/ the ignorance about Islam … most people still think that Islam and terrorism are different and Islam is peace. Did you hear Obama with Oreilly yesterday night , He made it clear that Al kaeda and company were different from Islam and until people here understand that the religion itself is a problem ......nobody will speak out in the name of freedom .
2/ the amazing turn a blind eye from the judicial system when dealing with some Allahakbar cases in the name of political correctness.
3/ the corruption … a lot of politicians everywhere are corrupted. Look at the Tennessee Waltz scandal and the party is not over yet. and the Arabs have a lot of money to bribe whoever they want and to buy their way in this country. And Money talks. The combination of all the ingredients results in a dish that will be very difficult to digest and eventually will poison this country Posted by: Tartine at September 5, 2008 9:08 AM
Dumbledoresarmy and Jimmy Bones, I found your postings inspirational. It's a pleasure to see an article where a politician like Aryeh Eldad isn't described as "right wing" or "far right". Just a news article describing the news without biased adjectives. Posted by: JeffS at September 5, 2008 11:02 AM
To all of you who see the danger in Islam, God Bless You! (Sorry if I offend you atheists!) To all of you who see the danger in Islam and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, double, no quadruple more of the same! Posted by: angryamerican
This is just one of the many articles and comments that I find very inspiring. I often have thoughts and ideas very similar, but the commenter’s here are able to put their point of view across in such intelligent and inspirational ways, and mostly have a way of justifying my thoughts. They also seem to me to be much more versed and knowledgable in this area and I am still learning…and thanks to all the contributors, they are making my education far more worthy than any other venue. So once again, a big THANKYOU to all the contributors to JW, DW, IIA, SOAaP etc…

For us Aussies, I fear there are too many that think ‘it won’t be as bad here’ or, ‘it won’t happen here’…well I am sure they are deluding themselves… There is also so much islamisation happening here, albeit on a much smaller scale than in the US, UK, Denmark etc. But happening it is.
What makes these na├»ve Aussie people think that Australia is of no value to the islamists and that we would be allowed to survive as we are in the worldwide ummah…. Nooo, there is plenty of value here, and lots of very good infrastructure to be had…not to mention being very close to Indonesia which has over 250 million people and the majority being muslim…you never know, they just might decide to use Tassie as a kind of prison.

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Once again…. Bravo to ITALY… this one from

No new mosques, says Italy's Northern League
Because "mosques can be used to 'spread hatred for the West.'"
Can anyone honestly dispute that assertion?
"Finally, someone says: No new mosques! Party seeks to ban prayer towers, loudspeaker chants, Arabic sermons," from WorldNetDaily, August 28 (thanks to all who sent this in): Italy is fighting a rapidly increasing Muslim presence by introducing a bill to block construction of Islamic mosques and prohibit minarets, or prayer watchtowers, and loudspeaker chants. Italy's Northern League, a political movement that is part of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's governing coalition, introduced the legislation. According to a Financial Times report, Northern League Chief of Deputies Roberto Cota will present the bill to parliament next week. The proposal will also require mosques to be at least one kilometer away from nearby churches, and sermons must be conducted in Italian rather than Arabic. Critics say the bill will face insurmountable challenges because it violates constitutional rights and lacks support from Berlusconi's Forza Italia Party and the National Alliance. However, the Catholic UDC Party supports the bill. Italy is estimated to be the home of 1.2 million Muslims and 258 registered mosques, and Islam is the second largest religion in the country. Many Italians have become concerned about what they believe to be an overwhelming Islamic presence. Italian authorities have already suspended plans to build a mosque in Bologna. According to the UK Guardian, members of Silvio Berlusconi's government proposed a similar law in 2004 because they said mosques can be used to "spread hatred for the West." In 2001, the U.S. Treasury department dubbed a major mosque in Milan as "the main al-Qaida station house in Europe."
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