What causes muslim terrorism?

A couple more entries from strangecosmos.com

The old saying....give them an inch and they'll take a mile applies here. I also believe that we in Australia could easily apply the following to fit the Aussie mould. I get chills when I think of Mr KRudd wanting a seat on the UN.

EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE.

For those who are concerned about how Bush has alienated the European allies of the US, as well as the UN membership, they should read the following editorial in the Welt, a German daily:



EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE

Matthias DÃpfner, Chief Executive of German publisher Axel Springer AG, has written a blistering attack in the daily WELT against the cowardice of Europe in the face of the Islamic threat. Hartmut Lau translated the article.
(Commentary by Mathias DÃpfner)

A few days ago Henryk M. Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because it's so terribly true. Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to agreements. Appeasement stabilized communism in the Soviet Union and East Germany in that part of Europe where inhuman, suppressive governments were glorified as the ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities. Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo and we Europeans debated and debated until the Americans came in and did our work for us.

Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European appeasement, camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance," now countenances suicide bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians. Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore 300,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by the self-righteousness of the peace-movement, to issue bad grades to George Bush A particularly grotesque form of appeasement is reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic fundamentalists in Holland and elsewhere by suggesting that we should really have a Muslim holiday in Germany.

What else has to happen before the European public and its political leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims, focused on civilians and directed against our free, open Western societies.

It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than the great military conflicts of the last century-a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by tolerance and accommodation but only spurred on by such gestures, which will be mistaken for signs of weakness.

Two recent American presidents had the courage needed for anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush. Reagan ended the Cold War and Bush, supported only by the social democrat Blair acting on moral conviction, recognized the danger in the Islamic fight against democracy His place in history will have to be evaluated after a number of years have passed.

In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence in the multicultural corner instead of defending liberal society's values and being an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true great powers, America and China. On the contrary-we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to the intolerant, as world champions in tolerance, which even (Germany's Interior Minister) Otto Schily justifiably criticizes. Why? Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so materialistic.

For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of additional national debt and a massive and persistent burden on the American economy-because everything is at stake. While the alleged capitalistic robber barons in America know their priorities, we timidly defend our social welfare systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive. We'd rather discuss the 35-hour workweek or our dental health plan coverage. Or listen to Bleeding Hearts preach about "reaching out to murderers."

These days, Europe reminds me of an elderly aunt who hides her last pieces of jewelry with shaking hands when she notices a robber has broken into a neighbor's house.

Europe, thy name is cowardice.

Submitted by our Ohio Pal KH

Now this one got me really thinking....so just what is the terrorist's gripe?

What Causes Muslim Terrorists? -

Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists arise.

No beer.

No booze.

No bars.

No television.

No cheerleaders.

No NASCAR.

No NHRA.

No baseball.

No football.

No basketball.

No hockey.

No golf.

No tailgate parties.

No Hooters.

No pork BBQ.

No hot dogs.

No burgers.

No outboard motors

No lobster, shellfish, or even Mrs. Paul's frozen fish sticks.

Rags for clothes and towels for hats.

Constant wailing from the guy next door because he's sick and there are no doctors.

Constant wailing from the guy in the tower.

No chocolate chip cookies.

No Victoria's Secret catalogs.

No super bowl parties

No Christmas.

You can't shave.

Your wife can't shave.

You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung.

The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times.

Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey, but your donkey has a better disposition.

Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!

No mystery here !

Submitted by Chuckie

United States vs. Reid.

This has just got to be the best Statement from a Judge I have read in a long time. Even though it was in 2003, this is the first time I have ever read it.

Thanks to Strangecomos.com

- MUST READ - Judge Sentences Shoe Bomber


Ruling by Judge William Young

US District Court Judge William Young made the following statement in sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid to prison.

It is noteworthy, and deserves to be remembered far longer than he predicts. I commend it to you and to anyone you might wish to forward it to.

January 30, 2003
United States vs. Reid.

Judge Young: Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.

On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General.

On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other. That's 80 years.

On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million.

The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.

The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.

The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statues. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this to you.

We are not afraid of any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here. And I say that to everyone with the utmost respect.

Here in this court, where we deal with individuals as individuals, and care for individuals as individuals, as human beings we reach out for justice, you are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be your view, you are a terrorist.

And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not treat with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminals guilty of multiple attempted murders.

In a very real sense Trooper Santigo had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were and he said. "You're no big deal." You are no big deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today? I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I search this entire record it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.

Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely.

It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their, their representation of you before other judges. We are about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear any burden, pay any price, to preserve our freedoms.

Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will be forgotten. But this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done.

The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. You know it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer, stand him down.

How much of this Judge's comments did you hear on our TV sets?
Please pass this around.
Everyone needs to hear what the judge had to say.

http://strangecosmos.com/content/item/24320.html

The Least You Need To Know About Islam

Thanks to ... CitizenWarrior com...

The Least You Need To Know About Islam
Posted: 26 Oct 2008 12:55 PM CDT

IF YOU HAD the opportunity to educate every kafir (non-Muslim) on earth about Islam but with one restriction — you could only tell them three facts — which three would you choose?

Non-Muslims don't need to know everything. Do they need to know Mohammad married a six year-old? Will that help them? Does it really matter to a non-Muslim who has no desire to become a follower? Probably not. But it is very important for a non-Muslim to know about the principle of taqiyya.

Another good choice would be to tell the kafirs what a Muslim means when he says, "Islam is a religion of peace."

There are many possible good choices, but the point is, for national policies about Islam to be changed, the politicians involved will need the support of a large number of their voters. And for that to happen, a lot more kafirs need to know some basic information about Islam.

But as you know, it's a big subject. There's a lot to learn, and most people have other interests and are not going to devote much time to it. So the question I think we should be asking ourselves is: "What is the least a kafir needs to know?"

What three ideas or facts would you choose if you could only choose three?

If you had your points down to three and you were clear what they were, it would be easier to work those points into conversations. And you could become very good at delivering those three points. You would be more effective in those conversations — more persuasive, more convincing, less likely to provoke a negative reaction.

Not only that, but if you give enough information to get someone interested, their own desire to learn will spur them on. You don't have to tell them everything. In fact, if you try, they will probably resist the information. You just need to say enough to arouse their interest, and say it well enough to be convincing.

This is important. Where the rubber meets the road in this work is our one-on-one conversations with people who don't yet understand the danger we're in. In those conversations, we can gain new allies, or we can push people further away from the cause, depending on how well we do it. Having three clear points we want to deliver — points we have decided ahead of time and have given some thought to — will improve how well we do it.
If I could only choose three points to make, I'd make these:
1. Islam has not been hijacked. That Islam has been hijacked is what non-Muslims naturally assume because they assume all religions are the same. So they further assume that some crazies must have hijacked the religion because surely no religion would actually encourage the killing of innocents. We want to believe the religion has been hijacked. Once people realize it isn't true, we can start talking about real solutions.

2. Muslims are allowed to deceive non-Muslims if it helps Islam. The principle of taqiyya is surprising to non-Muslims. Knowing about the principle helps immunize non-Muslims from the deception. They can at least not take everything a Muslim leader says at face value. You can see (and share) some excellent examples of taqiyya in the movie, Obsession.

3. Striving to institute worldwide Shari'a law is a religious duty. Many people don't realize how politically-oriented Islam is at its core. Shari'a is the law of Allah. Any other form of government is a sin. It is their duty as a Muslim to keep striving until all governments have been converted to Shari'a law. I think when kafirs understand this, they will immediately grasp the basic principle that all governments must immediately stop all concessions to Islam.
Those are the three I would choose. Which three would you choose?

Reprinted with Permission…
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/11/what-religion-of-peace-really-means.html

Christian Nanna: Proselytizing Islam at Penn

Christian Nanna: Proselytizing Islam at Penn

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Terror Free Oil
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 05:07 PM CDT

WE ARE essentially funding our enemies. We buy oil from Saudi Arabia, for example, and they use that money to build mosques in our countries — mosques which promote the following ideas to their Muslim attendees: keep yourselves separate from non-Muslims and do not assimilate into the culture; gain political power; agitate for concessions; and work toward the long-range goal of replacing the democratic government with a government ruled by Shari'a law.

We are funding this. If we didn't buy their oil, we'd put a huge damper on their activities. And they wouldn't have so much money to afford building madrassas all over the world teaching hatred for the West.

The Terror-Free Oil Initiative came up with a solution: They research where gas stations get their oil so we can choose to buy our gas from stations that do not send our money to Jihadis bent on our destruction. They've even opened their own gas station. Here's a five-minute clip from MSNBC about the new gas station (click here to watch the video):
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This is one of the most positive, practical actions I have yet to see. Please look up your local gas stations, find out where you can buy terror-free gas, and tell all your friends. Sooner is better than later.

I looked up every one of the gas suppliers on the list and none of them sell gas in my area. So I wrote to The Terror-Free Oil Initiative, and Alex Porter wrote back to me, giving me a link to a list of oil companies showing the percentage of their oil they get from the Persian Gulf.

In my area there are mostly Shell and Chevron stations. I've used Chevron for many years, but looking at this list, I discovered they are one of the highest in the percentage of their oil they get from the Middle East, so I switched to Shell, which has one of the lowest percentages.

Another thing you can do to help cut off money to Jihadis is drive slower. During the oil crisis in the 1970's, the speed limit was dropped to 55. A lot of people complained about it, but it did save a lot of gas. And it still does. So even while you're driving, you reduce our reliance on oil if you drive 55.

It feels good to be doing something. Each mile you drive 55, you are taking money out of the pockets of people trying to destroy us. And you can educate yourself while you're at it by listening to good audiobooks. And if you keep your car tuned, it will use less gas too. Of course, you can also ride your bike and walk when you have the opportunity.

You can also urge your representatives to support the "open fuel standard," which means mandating car manufacturers to make cars that can run on many different fuels — cars that can run on ethanol and methanol and gasoline, for example — rather than only gasoline. Check out NozzleRage.com to find out how. They make it easy to write to your representatives.

You can do something very simple right now: Forward this article to ten people. The more people who use terror-free gas, the more financial incentive gas companies will have to make it more available.

To thwart Islam's relentless encroachment, we have many practical actions we can take. The way we use gasoline is one of the most important.

Proselytizing Islam at Penn

Ecumenical consultation demarcates common ground for dialogue with Islam
25 Oct 2008 - Source: World Council of Churches
(From the ACC Newsletter.)
NOTE:..passages with ALL CAPS are mine.
Christian communities should improve their knowledge of Islam, be good neighbours to Muslims and bear witness to their faith in an appropriate manner, according to an international group of church leaders and experts on Christian-Muslim dialogue.
“WHEN MUSLIMS WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBOURS TO EVERYBODY REGARDLESS OF DENOMINATION THEN I MIGHT HALFWAY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE NEAR TO BEING GENUINE.”

These were some of the recommendations put forward at an 18 to 20 October consultation aimed at developing an ecumenical Christian theological understanding of dialogue with Islam. Convened by the World Council of Churches (WCC), it gathered some fifty church leaders and experts on Christian-Muslim dialogue in Chavannes-de-Bogis, outside Geneva, Switzerland.

Participants acknowledged a history of "mixed" relationships between Christians and Muslims, with both positive and negative dimensions. On their part, Christians have seen Muslims as both friend and rival, neighbour and stranger.
I WILL NEVER SEE THEM AS ‘FRIEND OR NEIGHBOUR, BUT RATHER ALWAYS AS STRANGER’.

However, participants agreed, Christianity teaches to love the neighbour regardless of race, gender or religion. Even more, Christian self-understanding is challenged and deepened through relationships with Muslims, while Christians themselves are renewed by entering into dialogue with them.
AS A CHRISTIAN, I WILL TREAT OTHERS AS HUMANS PROVIDING THEY TREAT OTHERS IN THE SAME MANNER. AS FOR DIALOGUE WITH MUSLIMS, not ANYTHING THEY SAY CAN BE TAKEN AS TRUTH BECAUSE THE KORAN TELLS THEM THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE INFIDELS AS FRIENDS, ONLY TO PRETEND UNTIL THE TIME COMES TO STRIKE IF THEY HAVE FAILED AT CONVERTING THEM.

For this dialogue to be fruitful, it needs to be sensitive, including a careful use of traditional Christian language like mission, witness and conversion. And both church leaders and communities need to be educated in the knowledge of Islam as Muslims live and present it.
WHY DOES THE ‘WCC’ WANT TO … “MISSION, WITNESS AND CONVERT” THE MUSLIM? ARENT THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TEACHING EVERYONE HOW TO LIVE TOGETHER PEACEFULLY? IF THE WCC WANT THE MUSLIM TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY, THEN WHY DON’T THEY THEMSELVES CONVERT TO BEING A MUSLIM IN THE LANDS OF ISLAM?
TO EACH THEIR OWN AND LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACEFUL SURROUNDINGS AND CONDITIONS….IS WHAT SHOULD BE IN DISCUSSION AND ALL EFFORTS TO GET EVERYONE TO THIS POINT.
While attitudes among Christians towards Islam are diverse and rich, different contexts and experiences of living together with Muslims inspire different theological approaches.
THE ONLY APPROACH SHOULD BE NOT EXPECTING ANYONE FROM THE KORAN TO LIVE IN THE LANDS OF WESTERN SOCIETIES.

The consultation identified a number of issues to be addressed in further dialogue with Muslims, among others: human rights, conversion, concepts of secularism, pluralism, and citizenship, as well as the use of religious symbols for political ideologies and religiously motivated violence.

FURTHER DIALOGUE? …I THINK THIS IS JUST BEATING A DEAD HORSE SO TO SPEAK. TOTALLY FUTILE AS A DEAD HORSE CANNOT AND WILL NOT GO ANYWHERE.
COLLABORATION IS ANOTHER WORD FOR AN ALLIANCE, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE IN ALLIANCE WITH EACH OTHER WILL LAST AS ONLY AS LONG AS THEY CAN BE USEFUL TO EACH OTHER FOR THE SAKE OF SURVIVAL, THEN ONE WILL TURN ON THE OTHER AND WILL SUBJUGATE THE WEAKER PARTY.
AS ON “STAR TREK VOYAGER”,…THE CREW OF CAPTAIN JANEWAY ENTERED INTO AN ALLIANCE WITH THE BORG. THE BORG NEEDED NEW TECHNOLOGY AND VOYAGER CREW NEEDED TO GET THROUGH BORG SPACE WHILE THEY WERE BOTH IN CONFLICT WITH A MORE ADVANCED ALIEN LIFE-FORM. AS SOON AS THE BORG THOUGHT THEY HAD THE TECHNOLOGY SAFELY IN THEIR HANDS THEY THEN TURNED ON THE VOYAGER CREW AND TOLD THEM THEY WERE TO BE ASSIMILATED AND UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE BORG. HOWEVER, VOYAGER CREW HAD TO PUT CERTAIN PLANS INTO ACTION AND ENDED UP BLOWING THE BORG OUT OF THE CARGO HOLD. ONE BORG SURVIVED THIS AND WAS STUNNED BY A LASER GUN. SHE WAS HALF-BORG AS SHE WAS TAKEN AS A CHILD AND ASSIMILATED INTO THE BORG. IT DOES ENSUE THAT ‘THE DOCTOR’ DOES HIS THING AND GRADUALLY RESTORES HER TO A MORE HUMAN PERSONALITY; THIS IS 7-OF-9. SHE EVENTUALLY BECOMES A MUCH VALUED MEMBER OF THE CREW, AND EVENTUALLY IS RESTORED TO FULL HUMAN.
EVERY TIME THE VOYAGER HAS AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE BORG, THEY COME UP AGAINST DECEIT, TRICKS AND LIES. VOYAGER CREW MUST FIGHT FOR THEIR VERY LIVES AND SURVIVAL.
THIS IS WHAT WE ‘HUMANS’ MUST DO AGAINST THE ISLAMISTS. FIGHT FOR OUR SURVIVAL BY ANY MEANS UNTIL WE DRIVE THEM FROM OUR… ‘SPACE’…OUR LAND, OUR SOCIETIES, And OUR FUTURE.
Participants also recommending further Christian-Muslim collaboration on issues such as social and economic justice, climate change, peace and healing of memories.

AS FAR AS FURTHER COLLABORATION ON ISSUES SUCH AS ABOVE ARE CONCERNED… OUR SOCIAL JUSTICE IS TOO FAR REMOVED FROM THE MUSLIMS VIEW OF SOCIAL JUSTCICE. THE ECONOMIC JUSTICE IS THE CONCERN OF EACH INDIVIDUAL AND THE NEED TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH-IN THEIR MEANS, UNFORTUNETELY GREED WILL BE IN MANY PEOPLE AS LONG AS MONEY AND POWER IS IN PLAY. BUT THAT IS OUR WAY, WE HAVE TRIED COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST WAYS, AND THEY DO NOT WORK AS HISTORY HAS PROVEN. DEMOCRACY, AND TRUE DEMOCRACY IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD FOR THE HUMAN RACE. LET THE ISLAMISTS LIVE UNDER COMMUNISM OR SOCIALISM, CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL, WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK AS REGIMES THAT CONTROL THE PEOPLE BY THIS METHOD, THERE IS NO PEACE NOR IS THERE HAPPINESS OR FREEDOM.
THEN WE HAVE PEACE AND HEALING OF MEMORIES… THERE CAN BE NO HEALING OF MEMORIES UNTIL PEACE, AND EQUALLY SO, THERE CAN BE NO PEACE UNTIL HEALING OF MEMORIES, THUS THE CONUMDRUM OF THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG IS IN PLAY.

Organised by the WCC together with a number of Christian World Communions, the World Evangelical Alliance (WEA) and the Roman Catholic Church, the consultation is a continuation of an ecumenical process launched by the WCC in response to "A Common Word," a letter signed by 138 Muslim scholars and addressed to Christian leaders around the world in October 2007.

THE ‘RC’ AND THE ‘WEA’ CONSULTATION PROCESS IN RESPONSE TO ‘A COMMON WORD’ LETTER, IS JUST A LOAD OF CRAP. THE MUSLIM CANNOT AND NEVER WILL CHANGE THEIR VIEWPOINT OR ANY IDEOLOGIES, AND REALLY, WHY SHOULD THEY. IT IS JUST THE SAME AS THEM EXPECTING US TO CHANGE OUR VIEWPOINT…IT JUST IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, AT LEAST NOT WITHOUT ONE SIDE CAPITULATING TO THE OTHER.
Rather than producing a written response to the letter by the Muslim scholars, the goal of the consultation was to provide a space for churches and communions of churches to share their initiatives and theological resources for engaging with Muslims, and to identify substantial issues for Christian theology in relation to Christian-Muslim dialogue.

THERE CAN BE NO WRITTEN RESPONSE THAT WILL AGREE WITH THE POLITICAL IDEOLY OF ISLAM. ANY INITIATIVE IS TOTALLY FUTILE.
WHAT SORT OF INITIATIVES AND THEOLOGICAL RESOURCES FOR ENGAGING WITH MUSLIMS TO IDENTIFY SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES FOR CHRISTIAN THEIOLOGY IN RELATION TO CHRISTIAN-MUSLIM DIALOGUE WOULD THEY REALLY WANT?

Participants agreed on the need for further ecumenical exploration of theological issues pertaining to Muslim-Christian dialogue and invited the organisers to facilitate the process. A report on the consultation, including the presentations delivered and an account of the findings will be published by the end of the year.
HOW MUCH MONEY IS THIS COSTING? WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS? IS THIS MONEY BEING TAKEN FROM THE TITHES OF CHURCH GOERS? ARE THE SAUDI’S PAYING FOR THIS? THERE ARE TOO MANY QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED AND I DOUBT IF EITHER PARTY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH ANSWERS TO SATISFY THE ORDINARY PERSON. I THINK IT’S A BIT RICH CONSIDERING THAT CHRISTIANS AND JEWS COULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN DIALOGUE WITHIN SAUDI LAND.
IF THE MUSLIM LEADERS TRULY WANTED PEACE THEN THEY WOULD START BY PROSECUTING THOSE WHO PERSECUTE THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS OF THIS WORLD. UNTIL THEN I WILL NEVER BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY. EQUALLY SO FOR THE WEA AND WCC.
THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I WILL NOT BELONG TO ANY DENOMINATION. THEY ARE ALL BECOMING AN ABOMINATION FOR MY EYES.
MANY FALSE MESSIAHS AND LEADERS WILL COME TO BLIND THE PEOPLE FROM THE TRUTH, AND MANY PEOPLE WILL BE BLINDED BY THEM.

25 Oct 2008
THIS FOLLOWING ARTICLE FROM CAMPUS WATCH IS RIGHT ON THE TRUTH AS FAR AS THE ABOVE ARTICLE IS CONCERNED.
Proselytizing Islam at Penn
by Cinnamon Stillwell
Fri, 24 Oct 2008 at 2:44 PM

http://www.campus-watch.org/blog/2008/10/proselytizing-islam-at-penn.html Islam Awareness Week 2008 is underway at the University of Pennsylvania. Organized by the Muslim Students Association, Islam Awareness Week also has academic sponsors, including the university's Middle East Center.
While "awareness" may be a laudable goal, blatant proselytizing is another matter entirely. Yet today's event, "State and Need for Dawah in the West," promises just that. Here is the description (received by e-mail; emphasis added):
Harvard Chaplain and well-studied individual of Islam, Taha Abdul-Basser will deliver the Friday sermon on the lack of Dawah (invitation) on the part of Muslims in North America, not only to convey a message of submission to God alone but also to wash away misconceptions some share about Islam. Seven years after 9/11, Taha Abdul-Basser will elucidate on the importance of such education, sharing important Prophetic narratives and other occurrences in Islamic tradition that epitomize the magnitude of this act. We expect many non-Muslims to observe our Jummah outside, visually understanding the importance of this holy day.
THIS NEXT PARAGRAPH IS ALL WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN ABOUT.
Clearly, the "need for Dawah in the West" is being met at the University of Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, it's coming courtesy of the Muslim Students Association, an organization tainted by Saudi/Wahhabi funding, ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, and a history of inviting radical and anti-Semitic speakers to its events.
THIS IS PART OF THE WORLD-WIDE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR QUITE AWHILE NOW AND THEY HAVE PLANS TO KEEP IT GOING UNTIL THEY HAVE CONQUERED THE WORLD AND HAS IT UNDER TOTAL ISLAMIC RULE.
Moreover, why would the Middle East Center cosponsor such an event given its overtly religious nature? It amounts to the Middle East Center doing its own version of Dawah. Would the same Center, or any academic department, co-sponsor an event involving evangelical Christian proselytizing? I very much doubt it. But when it comes to Islam, propriety goes out the window.
NO, THEY WOULD NOT BECAUSE IT MIGHT INSULT THE SENSITIVITIES OF THE MUSLIM MIND-SET.

Time short for murderous Bali Bombers

Bali bombers to be executed within weeks 20:07 AEST Fri Oct 24 20083 hours 34 minutes ago.

Amrozi and Ali Ghufron will die next month. so far Three Islamic militants will be shot dead on their prison island early next month for their roles in the 2002 Bali bombings.

The bombers will be put to death in "early November" on Nusakambangan Island, off Central Java, where their high-security jail is located, a spokesman for Indonesia's Attorney General's office says.

He also indicated that the Attorney General did not believe there were valid grounds for any further legal appeals by Amrozi, his brother Mukhlas and Imam Samudra.

"Indonesia's Attorney General is stating that the legal efforts in the terrorism criminal case, on behalf of the defendant Amrozi ... and his friends, has been final," spokesman Jasman Pandjaitan said.

"The plan for the death executions ... will be implemented in early November 2008."

He added: "Based on the letter from the minister of law and human rights ... the execution for the death convicted, Imam Samudra and his friends, will be located in Nusakambangan, Cilacap District, by the execution team."

The three men were sentenced to die for playing lead roles in the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings, which killed 202 people including 88 Australians.

They claim they are ready to die, but that others will take revenge if their executions are carried out. (I THOUGHT THEIR CRONIES WOULD BE CELEBRATING THEIR MARTYRDOM. AND THE FAMILIES COULD GO TO THEIR GRAVE-SHRINES AND DO THEIR ULULATING THERE.)

Meanwhile, their defence lawyers continue to plan ways to stall the executions.

On Thursday, defence lawyer Achmad Kholid said a new appeal against the death sentences would be lodged by the bombers' families, possibly as soon as next week.

But that now seems like a futile exercise, given the position of the Attorney General that legal efforts in the case are "final".

Earlier this week, Indonesia's Constitutional Court rejected a side challenge by the bombers, who claimed that death by firing squad was unconstitutional and amounted to torture.

They said it was cruel and inhumane because they may not die immediately.
( THEY WILL DIE A LOT QUICKER THAN THE VICTIMS OF THE BOMBINGS DID.)

But the court reaffirmed the method of execution used in Indonesia, saying no execution method could be guaranteed to be pain-free.

(MAYBE THEY COULD BE GIVEN A PANADOL BEFORE HAND.)

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=653043



CAN'T COME TOO SOON FOR MY LIKING.....

I certainly hope there is going to be some type of independent witnesses to this...Maybe some Ambassadors from a couple of different countries that are NOT islamic, will do.

I could not stand thinking that are still part of this world.

3 YELLOW ROSES

3 Yellow Roses.

I walked into the grocery store not particularly interested in buying groceries. I wasn't hungry. The pain of losing my husband of 57 years was still too raw. And this grocery store held so many sweet memories.

He often came with me and almost every time he'd pretend to go off and look for something special. I knew what he was up to. I'd always spot him walking down the aisle with the three yellow roses in his hands.

He knew I loved yellow roses. With a heart filled with grief, I only wanted to buy my few items and leave, but even grocery shopping was different since he had passed on.

Shopping for one took time, a little more thought than it had for two.

Standing by the meat, I searched for the perfect small steak and remembered how he had loved his steak.

Suddenly a woman came beside me. She was blonde, slim and lovely in a soft green pantsuit. I watched as she picked up a large package of T-bones, dropped them in her basket...hesitated, and then put them back.
She turned to go and once again reached for the pack of steaks…

She saw me watching her and she smiled. 'My husband loves T-bones, but honestly, at these prices, I don't know.'

I swallowed the emotion down my throat and met her pale blue eyes.

'My husband passed away eight days ago,' I told her. Glancing at the package in her hands, I fought to control the tremble in my voice. 'Buy him the steaks. And cherish every moment you have together.'

She shook her head and I saw the emotion in her eyes as she placed the package in her basket and wheeled away.

I turned and pushed my cart across the length of the store to the dairy products. There I stood; trying to decide which size milk I should buy. A Quart, I finally decided and moved on to the ice cream. If nothing else, I could always fix myself an ice cream cone.

I placed the ice cream in my cart and looked down the aisle toward the front. I saw first the green suit, and then recognized the pretty lady coming towards me. In her arms she carried a package. On her face was
the brightest smile I had ever seen. I would swear a soft halo encircled her blonde hair as she kept walking toward me, her eyes holding mine.

As she came closer, I saw what she held and tears began misting in my eyes. 'These are for you,' she said and placed three beautiful long stemmed yellow roses in my arms. 'When you go through the line, they
will know these are paid for.' She leaned over and placed a gentle kiss on my cheek, then smiled again. I wanted to tell her what she'd done, what the roses meant, but still unable to speak, I watched as she walked
away as tears clouded my vision.

I looked down at the beautiful roses nestled in the green tissue wrapping and found it almost unreal. How did she know? Suddenly the answer seemed so clear. I wasn't alone.

Oh, you haven't forgotten me, have you? I whispered, with tears in my eyes. He was still with me, and she was his angel.

WE ALL TEND TO SOMETIMES FORGET ABOUT THE THINGS IN LIFE WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR.
MANY PEOPLE TEND TO FORGET ABOUT LIVING LIFE ANEW EVERYDAY.

SO

Every day be thankful for what you have and who you are.

Even though I clutch my blanket and growl when the alarm rings. Thank you, Lord, that I can hear...There are many who are deaf.

Even though I keep my eyes closed against the morning light as long as possible. Thank you, Lord, that I can see. Many are blind.

Even though I huddle in my bed and put off rising.. Thank you, Lord, that I have the strength to rise. There are many who are bedridden.

Even though the first hour of my day is hectic, when socks are lost, toast is burned, tempers are short, and my children are so loud. Thank you, Lord, for my family. There are many who are lonely.

Even though our breakfast table never looks like the picture in magazines and the menu is at times unbalanced. Thank you, Lord, for the food we have. There are many who are hungry.

Even though the routine of my job often is monotonous. Thank you, Lord, for the opportunity to work.. There are many who have no job or are unable to work.

Even though I grumble and bemoan my fate from day to day and wish my circumstances were not so modest. Thank you, Lord, for life and all that I do have.

You are welcome to Pass this on to the friends you know. It might help a bit to make this world a better place to live, right?

A friend is someone we turn to when our spirits need a lift.
A friend is someone to treasure as we are treasured.

For the LORD’S friendship is a gift.

A friend is someone who is sent from above who fills our lives with Beauty, Joy, and Grace and makes the world we live in a better and happier place.

LORD, AS MANY FRIENDS AS YOU HAVE BLESSED ME WITH, ABOVE ALL OTHERS, YOU ARE MY TRUEST FRIEND!

The crocheted tablecloth.

The crocheted tablecloth.

A beautiful story.... makes you understand that things happen for a reason.

The brand new pastor and his wife, newly assigned to their first ministry, to reopen a church in suburban Brooklyn , arrived in early October excited about their opportunities When they saw their church, it was very run down and needed much work. They set a goal to have everything done in time to have their first service on Christmas Eve.

They worked hard, repairing pews, plastering walls, painting, etc, and on December 18
were ahead of schedule and just about finished. On December 19 a terrible tempest - a driving rainstorm hit the area and lasted for two days. On the 21st, the pastor went over to the church.
His heart sank when he saw that the roof had leaked, causing a large area of plaster about 20 feet by 8 feet to fall off the front wall of the sanctuary just behind the pulpit, beginning about head high.

The pastor cleaned up the mess on the floor, and not knowing what else to do but postpone the Christmas Eve service, headed home. On the way he noticed that a local business was having a flea market type sale for charity so he stopped in. One of the items was a beautiful, handmade, ivory coloured, crocheted tablecloth with exquisite work, fine colours and a Cross embroidered right in the centre. It was just the right size to cover up the hole in the front wall. He bought it and headed back to the church.

By this time it had started to snow. An older woman running from the opposite direction was trying to catch the bus.. She missed it. The pastor invited her to wait in the warm church for the next bus 45 minutes later.

She sat in a pew and paid no attention to the pastor while he got a ladder, hangers, etc., to put up the tablecloth as a wall tapestry. The pastor could hardly believe how beautiful it looked and it covered up the entire problem area.

Then he noticed the woman walking down the centre aisle. Her face was like a sheet.. 'Pastor,'she asked, 'where did you get that tablecloth?' The pastor explained. The woman asked him to check the lower right corner to see if the initials, EBG were crocheted into it there. They were. These were the initials of the woman, and she had made this tablecloth 35 years before, in Austria

The woman could hardly believe it as the pastor told how he had just gotten the Tablecloth. The woman explained that before the war she and her husband were well-to-do people in Austria ..

When the Nazis came, she was forced to leave. Her husband was going to follow her the next week.. He was captured, sent to prison and never saw her husband or her home again.

The pastor wanted to give her the tablecloth; but she made the pastor keep it for the church. The pastor insisted on driving her home, that was the least he could do.. She lived on the other side of Staten Island and was only in Brooklyn for the day for a housecleaning job.

What a wonderful service they had on Christmas Eve. The church was almost full. The music and the spirit were great. At the end of the service, the pastor and his wife greeted everyone at the door and many said that they would return.

One older man, whom the pastor recognized from the neighborhood continued to sit in one of the pews and stare, and the pastor wondered why he wasn't leaving.

The man asked him where he got the tablecloth on the front wall because it was identical to one that his wife had made years ago when they lived in Austria before the war and how could there be two tablecloths so much alike.

He told the pastor how the Nazis came, how he forced his wife to flee for her safety and he was supposed to follow her, but he was arrested and put in a prison.. He never saw his wife or his home again all the 35 years in between.

The pastor asked him if he would allow him to take him for a little ride. They drove to Staten Island and to the same house where the pastor had taken the woman three days earlier.

He helped the man climb the three flights of stairs to the woman's apartment, knocked on the door and he saw the greatest Christmas reunion he could ever imagine.

True Story - submitted by Pastor Rob Reid Who says God does not work in mysterious ways.. I asked the Lord to bless you as I prayed for you today, to guide you and protect you as you go along your way. His love is always with you, His promises are true, and when we give Him all our cares you know He will see us through.

So when the road you're traveling on seems difficult at best.. Just remember I'm here praying and God will do the rest. Pass this on to those you want God to bless and don't forget to send it back to the one who asked God to bless you first.

When there is nothing left but God, that is when you find out that God is all you need. Take 60 seconds and give this a shot! All you do is simply say the following small prayer for the person who sent you this.

Father, God, bless all my friends and family in what ever it is that You know they may be needing this day! May their life be full of your peace, prosperity and power and HEALTH!!!!! as he/she seeks to have a closer relationship with you. Amen.

Islam In Action: Afghanistan:Man Gets 20 Years in Jail for Insulting Islam

Islam In Action: Afghanistan:Man Gets 20 Years in Jail for Insulting Islam

"Nation building with Muslims is costing us hundreds of billions of dollars and we are just creating Islamic countries which limit the freedoms of the non-Muslims living in and visiting these countries.'

Isnt this what part of the islamist aim is?...to create a use for all troops and so cost the US taxpayer billions of dollars? Jihad by stealth, jihad by destruction, jihad by arson, jihad by any other means... The US economy is in big trouble as it is and Aussie economy is also in trouble. The UK is all but islamised now, but some are starting to fight back.
Send ALL troops back to their homelands to protect the people there and deport all muslims back to their own homelands and let the mongrels fight it out between themselves.
Australia, US, UK and other places should start yelling loud at the pollies, after all, they do work for the people don't they??? Australia is already jacking up against the Labour govt. and it's only been 1 year. Their true colours are surely shining through. Wake up world, it is ours to reclaim.

Chines Pastor's son regains consciousness

Chinese Pastor Bike's son regains consciousness after attack
22 Oct 2008 - Source: ASSIST News Service
FROM ACC NEWS
http://www.acctv.com.au/articledetail.asp?id=6322


Zhang Jian, the oldest son of Pastor "Bike" Zhang Mingxuan, has regained consciousness in the Emergency Room at Beijing Min Hang (Aviation) Hospital. According to China Aid Association (CAA), Useful link: chinaaid.org

Zhang Jian was severely beaten with iron bars at his mother's home for 25 minutes by 15 Public Security Bureau (PSB) officers on October 16, 2008.


The family was then evicted and their furniture thrown into the street. China Aid has been in constant communication with this family facing severe persecution by the Chinese government. 



China Aid's president, Bob Fu, spoke with Zhang Jian this morning. He is still in very serious condition. His right eye is severely wounded and doctors are not sure if he will regain his sight. His nose bone and eye bone are both broken and doctors say he needs further CAT scans and surgery.

In an e-mail to ANS, China Aid says: "Even though his physical condition is very bad, Zhang Jian has left the hospital because PSB officers have been watching him there, and he was afraid for his safety. He went to his brother's home, but PSB officers followed him. The officers warned Zhang Jian and his brother, Zhang Chuang, not to leave the apartment before October 20, the date of the celebration Pastor Bike organized for the third anniversary of the Chinese House Church Alliance."

Meanwhile, China Aid has received several calls from different house church leaders who have also been warned not to go to Beijing or attend the celebration.



The China Aid e-mail says: "Zhang Jian's mother was ordered by police today to take care of the furniture and personal items that officers threw into the street during yesterday's attack on the family. The family is struggling financially to pay for the hospital bills, food, shelter and legal help. ChinaAid is working to send emergency help to Zhang Jian and his family. 


"Police have also attempted to shut down the house church where Zhang Jian's father preaches. On October 10, police sealed the door of the church and blocked it with two truckloads of garbage. Officials are blocking anyone wishing to enter, even though on September 28, officials gave permission for the house church to meet. They have also cut off the electricity to the church.



"The physical assault on Zhang Jian is the most serious of the recent attacks on Zhang Jian and his family. During the past 22 years, Zhang Jian's father, Pastor Bike, has been arrested 26 times, beaten and evicted from his home numerous times because of his faith. Despite the persecution, this family continues to boldly preach and help the house church Christians."


22 Oct 2008

That poor family...to be evicted time and again, and so persecuted for their faith, and to think the son was almost beaten to death.

AND JUST WHEN.....

Just when so many people (ME INCLUDED) are Praising the Chinese for their stand against the islamists, I come across a story like this. We all know that Christians are being persecuted in China, as well as in islamic and Arab lands. But surely the Chinese must realise that the Christians just want to be able to do their own thing, whereas the islamists want a world-wide caliphate. I thought it was rough enough when Chinses people were not permitted to practice their falun-gong...why I have no real idea, as to me it is similar to tai chi,

I must wonder though, if I as a Christian, would be so brave in the wake of an islamist takeover, and if I was given a choice... convert or die, or live a miserable existence as a professed Christian. Would I be so brave as to practice my faith so openly, or would I pretend I was not a Christian and submit to dhimmitude rather than death, so as I could continue my practice ...in secret? The way I sometimes feel is that I would simply be brave and courageous and tell them to ...BITE ME... I will never convert or submit. Or do as most of them (the islamists)do...pretend to be one of them and be a Christian in secret...But then my teachings tell me 'Not to deny Christ', that it would be better for me to admit my faith. Or would I give in to their demands if the lives of my family were at stake??? I don't think I could stand there and watch my children being beaten. The more I think about it the more I think I don't know what I would do....until the time ever comes. But then if enough of us were to get together to form some sort of protest group before Australia starts turning into a likeness of what's happening in large parts of the UK, then the government would have to stand up and take note.
Already I am reading reports of the krudd Lefty labourites losing power throughout the States. I guess people are starting to wake up to them now their true colours are really showing through. Oh how conned the Aussie people were by the Labour movement and all their cronies, the ones who want to be friends and hold hands with islamists, and tell us to be more like the Indonesians. I really hope that those who did vote them into Parliament are hanging their heads in shame and sorrow for their dumbness.

Friends.

I have decided that I am going to start including "something nice" from now on. After I have my rants and raves, I will then post some... poem, saying, Psalm, prayer, whatever. As long as it will keep me grounded. I read so much doom and gloom and trouble and strife from around the world, and as important as it is, I don't want to lose sight of why we are fighting this global threat called islam. When all is said and done, I want us to still have a sense of belonging, a sense of unity, a sense of why we have endured everything, so then any children in our midst can go forward with hope in their hearts, and knowledge in their heads, and a sense of right and wrong. Without that, then what is the purpose of defending our way of life, our principles, our ethics, our choice of religion...or not, our freedoms to choose, our lands, our people, our countries?

Anyway, here is something that I have read before and came across again recently. It was posted by...VJ...from one of the msn groups I am a member of.


TWO FRIENDS WERE WALKING THROUGH THE DESERT.
DURING SOME POINT OF THE JOURNEY, THEY HAD AN ARGUMENT; AND ONE FRIEND
SLAPPED THE OTHER ONE IN THE FACE.

THE ONE WHO GOT SLAPPED WAS HURT, BUT WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING, WROTE IN THE SAND:

TODAY MY BEST FRIEND SLAPPED ME IN THE FACE.

THEY KEPT ON WALKING, UNTIL THEY FOUND AN OASIS, WHERE THEY DECIDED TO TAKE A BATH

THE ONE WHO HAD BEEN SLAPPED GOT STUCK IN THE MIRE ! AND STARTED DROWNING, BUT THE FRIEND SAVED HIM.

AFTER HE RECOVERED FROM THE NEAR DROWNING,HE WROTE ON A STONE:

'TODAY MY BEST FRIEND SAVED MY LIFE '.

THE FRIEND WHO HAD SLAPPED AND SAVED HIS BEST FRIEND ASKED HIM, 'AFTER I HURT YOU, YOU WROTE IN THE SAND AND NOW, YOU WRITE ON A STONE, WHY?'

THE FRIEND REPLIED 'WHEN SOMEONE HURTS US WE SHOULD WRITE I T DOWN IN SAND, WHERE WINDS OF FORGIVENESS CAN ERASE IT AWAY.
BUT, WHEN SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING GOOD FOR US,WE MUST ENGRAVE IT IN STONE WHERE NO WIND CAN EVER ERASE IT.'

LEARN TO WRITE YOUR HURTS IN THE SAND AND TO CARVE YOUR BENEFITS IN STONE.


We need more people with that attitude.

How Christians are treated in Muslim Countries

How Christians Are Treated In Muslim Lands
How Christians Are Treated In Muslim Lands
09/oct/2008
fccn.com

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. Easter celebrations are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the “holy” muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.
Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.
Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.
Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.
Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the “Regulation of Religious Practice” law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years’ imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.
Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as “posing a threat to the relations among religious groups” and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.
Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.
Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.
Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain. Also, if any criminal Muslim rape with any Christian female and then take plea that she has accepted Islam and marry with him. Such person is not culpable under Pakistani criminal law
Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.
Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and—in the most extreme application—death. In a country where Muslims account for more than half of the population, conversion from Islam is punished with a 5-year prison sentence and a $3,000 fine. A Malaysian Muslim who marries a non-Muslim and who converts the non-Muslim to Islam is rewarded with an apartment, a car, a one-time payment of $2,700, and a monthly stipend of $270.
The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.


Whatever happened to what the musos say that Christians can practice their religion, and all the interfaith twadswaddle about inter-religious dialogue and friendship. A total lot of bullshit. I say we should send the muslims back to the country of origin. No arguments. No more wasting tax-payer dollars on their keep in our countries when they profess to hate us so much, and we have a total insane person in iran saying he is the future mahdi.... When Jesus does return, will be the only time when amadman will get to see who is the Truth, the Way and the Light.

A Mad man for the coming messiah????

Waiting for Islam's Messiah

- CBN July 31, 2008

QOM, Iran -- Iran's president believes Allah has chosen him to prepare the world for the coming of an Islamic 'savior' called the Mahdi.

But before the Mahdi's return, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes there must be global chaos - even if he has to create it himself....

http://www.fcnn.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=13&Itemid=51 Waiting for Islam's Messiah + video at...

Oh God, I felt sick watching this, but we have been warned many times, that this will happen. Some say the great satan is Bush jr. I say it is this madman of iran.
How many times do we hear....That; "there is going to be False Messiahs"?
Well here's one of them. Unfortunately there are many who will be beguiled by this piece of slime that is supposed to come up out of a well. From deep, deep down inside of Hell ...if you ask me.

Increases in demand for support services

Increases in demand for support services as financial crisis hits home
23 Oct 2008 - Source: Ramon A Williams

Australia’s worsening financial and housing crisis is impacting on Wesley Mission’s ability to meet the needs of a growing number of people left homeless, bankrupt and vulnerable according to Wesley Mission’s 2007-08 Annual Review which was released today.

As the crisis deepened during the past year, Wesley Creditline Financial Counselling Service provided counsel and support to 4826 people but turned away 2424. The number of women seeking crisis accommodation grew from 148 to 227 – a jump of 53 per cent on the previous year.
For the rest of this story go to: http://www.acctv.com.au/articledetail.asp?id=6330


As a long time volunteer in various orgs I can tell you there is desperation out there. Most of these people are in this trouble through no real fault of their own, on the other hand, there are many who have brought this on themselves. Through greed...you know the type...higher mortgage than they could really afford, having to have all brand new and expensive furniture, and the flashy car/s to go with it all. And how do we pay for this...by that little piece of plastic that the banks just love to hand out to people who they know very well will get in over their heads. The other people going to NCO's for a handout, well these are the gamblers, the alcoholics, the drug addicts, who spend their welfare payments on their vices, and not only welfare recipients but workers as well. The biggest losers are of course the children of all of the above. Then many of these people declare bankruptcy, and who pays for this in the long run?? I think we all do in one way or another. We also pay in the long run for all the thieves who just help themselves in supermarkets, other shops or to other peoples' property, thus insurance will be increased in high risk areas, and we all pay extra for our groceries etc because of the insurance hike to cover the cost of thefts.


For people who lose their houses due to defaulting on their mortgage payments, who is going to bail them out...our government? Creating another Fanny & Freddie situation? After all, didn't they encourage low income earners to go in for a mortgage by offering them the first home owners scheme of X amount of dollars.

"It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.
What is a risky loan? It’s a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay." from WOJ 21-10-08 Fannie Rort and Freddy Scam.


Just like they had to start paying people to have babies. Hence another baby-boom. Only this time there are babies being born to people who just simply have NO rights to be parents, hence so many kids needing foster care and babies being born only to go straight into a detox/methadone programme. And all because of why????? Not enough "caucasian" babies were being born to keep our population going, and then immigrant intakes to boost the economy, and presumably because there would not be enough tax payers to support the original babyboomers and those who followed.

Everywhere I go I see women...and young.. pushing a stroller with a baby, while toddler is beside the pregnant mum. There are so many barely legally old enough mums to be and in some cases these young mums are expecting their 2nd, and they are not even 18 years old yet., and at times, girls not old enough to be having sex....pregnant. Now I am not advocating abortion, as I am against that idea, but that is another issue...but for all these women and young adults and teenagers to be having babies and collecting the 'Baby Bonus' well I just have to wonder, would they be so eager to be having all these babies if there were no baby bonus? Some will say yes and others will not agree. Some will say that females do not have babies for the money, well let me tell you some do. I personally know of people that as soon as the baby bonus has been put into the bank, the baby is then being raised by grandma or handed over to welfare and foster homes. Some of the very unlucky babies are forced to endure life with a totally strung out on....insert whatever drug....and are lucky to get fed once in a while. There are babies and toddlers of single parents that the welfare need to agree on which drug addict parent is better than the other one to leave the child with. Oh and if grandma is raising the child, there is not much help out there for her, not from welfare at least. Yet if more foster carers were available then they at least get re-imbursed for expenses or in some agencies, depending on the age and level of needs of the child, then there is a sliding scale of 'payment'. I understand why most agencies do not pay a lot for carers, as there is already some in the business who only take these poor little kids in because of the money...yes it happens...if the weekly amount were to be raised then that would leave the way open for even more unscrupulous people to get into the foster care game.

There are some horror stories out there that do not make for good reading, but there they certainly are! If I did not know about this from experience then I would have a hard time believing it, but alas no. I have seen kids after months of a "caring" foster carers doing all the hard work on these dysfunctioning little kids, be returned to the parent/s because of a court order stating that the drug addiction is under control...not gone mind you, but under control.... or the domestic violence has settled because the parent/s have been to court/rehab and promised they would be good little parents if only they can have their welfare payments....ooopppsss I mean their kids returned. Only for these kids to once again end up back in the system....or worse DEAD. Now this I have written proof of and have had for 13 odd years. I have a stack of court documents of child welfare cases where the child was returned to the parents only to be returned to the Childrens' Hospital time and time again, or sadly to the morgue. I obtained these case files when there was a State Inquiry into DHS, that was instigated by Jeff Kennet back in 1996. This was a result of then a young boy (barely 16 yo) died from heroin.... and this was not long after the first death of a young girl from ecstacy. Mind you the details of these stories are long and detailed, and I might just one day write about it, as I am personally involved in one of the cases. But not today...the wounds are still raw. Suffice to say that the young boy who died of heroin was not into drugs until he was put into the welfare system and short-term units, due to family problems. He never saw any heroin use from his parents or close family members, he learnt those tricks from being placed in with other teen drug users.

But the long and the short of all this is I am really getting tired of people who run up credit knowing full well they have no real means of ever getting out of debt, and so using up all welfare resources, leaving none for those truly deserving of other peoples generous donations. Call me hard, but yes I have had to harden up over the years. I believe that a bit of TOUGH LOVE can go a long way with so many people and especially with today's youth, and even some adults.

memory restored, apology to sheikyermami.

With my lack of memory I recently wrote about...it has been constantly on my mind not being able to remember where I saw a particular article. I searched through the last weeks newspapers and nothing.. I must have dreamt about it because this morning I think I had a couple of extra neurons firing. I searched back through some sites on my PC and came across the article.

My apologies must go to Sheikyermami as the article was in one of the recent posts on Winds Of Jihad.

The article was..... Non-Muslims snap up Islamic accounts
By Julian Knight
Personal finance reporter, BBC News


"I have a guarantee that my money will not be used to invest in arms or tobacco," Ms Dellaway says.


Well she might be assured of it not being invested in tobacco....but the arms part, well I think this is a delusion of hers.

says Ms Dellaway..."I thought that perhaps I would be looked at as a bit of a lunatic but not a bit of it."


No Not at all...they will not look at you as if you are a lunatic, they will be looking at you as a dumb dhimmi and as a spider looks at a fly....come into my web says the spider to the fly...then bang, you are trapped.


The reaction amongst Ms Dellaway's friends and family to her decision seems to bear this out.
"They have been really interested in what I have done. They ask lots of questions and can see how closely ethical finance and the Islamic financial models fit together," Ms Dellaway says.

So she is cajoling her friends into doing the same thing...sort of reminds me of how the muslims like to tell only the simple parts of their koran, and leave out all the big issues... What will happen to the everyday non-muslim people when the shit hits the fan and they start to realise what is really happening in this world???? Will they be able to take their loan to another bank, will they be able to close off any accounts???

Seems her friends need to ask some other questions and not just take her answers for the truth. We can all read pamphlets, brochures and hear the spin doctors praise their program and ideologies but they only ever tell you what they want you to know...for now...and by the time they have you hooked - in contract - it is toooo late. Mormons are really good at this, targeting most people of low income, single parent families, lonely isolated people etc....scientology is really good at this, the way they get very vulnerable young people to go and sit some psychological tests only to give them the results that they really need counselling and so get them into a program...their program.... muslims do this really well too...pretend to be a friend, sing the praises of the koran, get you to go along to a few meetings, then gradually get you away from all you knew and into their clutches.

There are certainly enough vulnerable people in today's world who are distanced from and disenchanted with their families and communities, and with so many people with mental illnesses, drug and alcohol problems, then that leaves them wide open and vulnerable to these morons who sing the praises of our enemies. One good breeding ground is the prisons...yes it happens here in Oz as well.

I can only hope that the current trend of societal greed prevails and keeps people in regular banks earning a pittance in interest. However, on the other hand, with many people scraping the bottom of the financial barrel, they just might well be drawn to sharia finance to fund their home-loan etc, leaving them extra money to buy the expensive furniture etc......

THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY

For readers who want to know what was really going on in the Middle East prior to the Persian Gulf War, Sept. 11th, and Iraq War, THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY, is a must read.

*** This is a response I received from a post on “Terrorists Wanted by the FBI.”
I am posting it in its entirety as I think it is a very good piece with a lot of very relevant info. I will be buying a copy of this book before the end of the week. Now this is one (in many) conspiracy theory that I think we can find truth in.***

OLIVE GROVE BOOKS said...
Publisher’s Note: Our author had it right in 1987, but couldn’t get published because they said the events he predicted could not possibly happen. Well, they did, and we finally published him when we discovered the manuscript. Mr. Spirko tells us that Bush’s motive for trying the peace initiative is not so much his seeking a favorable legacy, but rather that this is probably the last chance for peace in the Middle East before a catastrophic World War III event takes place. Spirko says, “It is never too late for peace.” Most of the ideas that will be used at Annapolis and the continuing peace talks are from Spirko’s book. (See jpeg at Barnesandnoble.com or Borders.com or GazelleBooks.com in Lancaster)

SAN FRANCISCO – THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY, a genre spy-thriller by Robert Spirko, is now in its second printing and was fourth on the best-seller list at Atlasbooks, Inc., a national book distributor. Ingram Books is the worldwide distributor.

Spirko, a financial and geo-political analyst who has given his advice to the National Security Council, turned his attention to the Middle East in 1987, after discovering several common elements related to the Middle East question. He wrote down his analysis, and when he was finished, he not only had a solution to the quagmire, he had a story to tell. THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY foreshadowed the Persian Gulf War by three years, and the resultant Iraq War followed by the Sept. 11 attack.

Spirko states, "The chief threat in the region I see right now is the threat to Saudi Arabia by Iran and Al Qaeda. If Al Qaeda were to overthrow the present royal family in Saudi Arabia or attack the Strait of Hormuz, cutting off the oil supply to western nations including Japan and China, it would bring down entire world economies. France and Germany would be begging us to go to war to retake those oil wells. It would be World War III."

“If such a scenario were to occur,” he reiterates, “France and the European economies would collapse in a matter of weeks.”

“Another looming concern is Iran which wants to develop nuclear weapons to couple with their Shahab 4, 5 & 6 missiles on the drawing boards which have a range to hit London, Israel, all of Europe, southern Russia and the United States. Also, the Iranian government has said it initially had 300 centrifuges to enrich uranium to weapons grade material. They have increased that to 3,000. They will soon increase that again to 10,000 centrifuges,” Spirko says. “They have the additional capacity to add another 20,000 centrifuges in mass production techniques that will enable them to produce at least seven nuclear bombs in about a year. Where did they get these centrifuges?”

Spirko answers that question by stating an Arab proverb, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

“Simply put,” Spirko explains, “they probably got them from Saddam Hussein before the Iraq War started and were probably smuggled out of Iraq and into Iran just like he did his air force of 600 Soviet fighter planes. In other words, he gave them to his former enemy rather than let them be destroyed on the ground.”

“Why would he have done any differently with the 30,000 centrifuges he supposedly had on a decentralized basis inside Iraq before the war?” Spirko asks. “Isn’t it strange that Iran could come up with a nuclear weapons program in about six months to a year when it took the United States six years under the Manhattan Project with 5,000 of the world’s most brilliant scientists like Robert Oppenheimer, Niels Bohr, Seaborg, Einstein, Fermi, and others working on it?”

Another point Spirko makes on the Mideast is that, “It is time for the Israelis and Palestinians to return to the Peace Talks, resume where they left off and "freeze in place" the already-agreed-upon negotiating points,” Spirko says.

"And, it's all related to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict which I said back in 1987 was the crux of my book. It always has been, and always will be until it's settled,” Spirko says. “That linkage is exactly what Osama Bin Laden stated in a taped message aired the weekend before the election in November of 2004. Whether you believe him or not is beside the point. That's what's he told us, and we'd better take that into account."

The novel is a mass market paperback produced by Olive Grove Publishers, and can be purchased at area bookstores through Ingram Book Group, Green Leaf Distribution, and Baker and Taylor, priced at $14.99, ISBN 0-9752508-0-9. THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY can also be ordered on the web at www.gazellebookservices.co.uk in Lancaster, www.atlasbooks.com, or email orders from: order@bookmasters.com, or from Barnes & Nobles, Border's, Dalton's, efollett.com & Follett bookstores at colleges and universities, WaldenBooks, Amazon.com, Walmart.com, Target.com and other popular retail bookstores. Or, readers and store managers can call 1-800-BOOKLOG, or 800-247-6553 direct, to order.

SAN FRANCISCO - When it comes to spy novels and Middle East intrigue, after 16 spell-binding years, the gripping story behind the Middle East quagmire - its issues of nuclear weapons and the quest for a Palestinian State - is finally being told in a ground-breaking new book entitled, THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY.

Author Robert Spirko created the work in such a way that every reader in the world would understand all the intricate issues in the Middle East and how close the region actually came to the brink of nuclear Armageddon. THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY, a genre spy-thriller by Robert Spirko, was fourth on the best-seller list at Atlasbooks, Inc., a national book distributor. Ingram Books is the worldwide distributor.

Mr. Spirko has a unique way of holding the reader in his grasp as the plot of THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY unfolds. He literally takes you from your armchair and immerses you into the lifestyle of the Bedouin, the Israeli, the PLO and the mindset of the Middle-Easterner.

THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY is not just another spy-novel; it is the quintessential spy-thriller because it forces the reader to understand how both sides "think" and why that thinking ultimately led to repeated wars in the Middle East.

Spirko, a financial and geo-political analyst, turned his attention to the Middle East in 1987, after discovering several common elements related to the Middle East question. In working for peace, and after several frustrating years, he put down his analysis in writing and when he was finished, he not only had a solution to the quagmire, he had a story to tell.

But, nobody was listening.

Today, all that has changed, thanks to Olive Grove Publishers who decided to give his book a chance.

When the Palestinian question came to a festering crisis in 1990, he had already predicted several of the actual events before they occurred. For instance, Spirko predicted the Intifada and Persian Gulf War, missing the actual invasion date of Kuwait by only one week. He did this through spectacular supposition, analysis and prediction based on what he was "seeing" in the region.

When Spirko typed his manuscript, he set the work to fiction, about what he thought might occur soon in the Middle East involving weapons of mass destruction, nuclear proliferation, the Palestinian uprising before it occurred, and how the Palestinian question begged to be answered, little did he realize that every event he described in the book would eventually transpire.

His story of what was really happening behind the scenes in the Middle East is truly astounding and remarkable, and his contribution to the Camp David Peace Talks in 2000, formulated a solution to the Jerusalem question. When the BBC got wind of it, they termed it "as nothing short of brilliant" - Jerusalem becoming the simultaneous capitals of both Israel and Palestine in congruous or concentric zones.

Spirko originally copyrighted his book on October 20, 1987, in the U. S.
Library of Congress where intelligence agencies reviewed his work.

Today, finally, somebody is listening.

Spirko feels that both sides must return to the Peace Talks and resume where they left off and "freeze in place" the already-agreed-upon negotiating points.

“It's like a marriage where both spouses storm away mad in an argument.
They don't divorce and then try to resume their relationship, they come back together, settle their differences, and resume their marriage. It must be the same for the Middle East Peace talks," Spirko says.

The story begins in Beirut, Lebanon, once a great financial capital of the Middle East, which lay in ruin, having been systematically blasted to rubble during 20 years of inexhaustible civil war and siege by Israel, the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah and Lebanese factions. Soon, the quest for a Palestinian State would be framed by these events; namely, the invasion of Kuwait by a neighboring rogue state, Iraq, with Saddam Hussein's goal of seeking nuclear parity with Israel. That war has been resolved, but now Iran wants to annihilate Israel, and the world must not let that happen.

In Mr. Spirko's story, Rick Waite, a forgotten UPI correspondent, and Adrienne Waters, a Pulitzer Prize journalist from the London Times, meet-up in Beirut with a PLO operative named Ahmed, who discovers a secret intelligence memo about a secret plan to destroy Israel.

In the ensuing chase to find the answer to this secret communiqué and what it means, a deadly race against time begins as the unlikely trio tries to halt the launch of a secret weapon from a hidden PLO base camp in the Syrian Desert. U. S. and British intelligence operatives have their own agenda, and attempt to stop whatever is going on to save the entire region from a nuclear holocaust.

Spirko weaves a tale of chilling duplicity and thrilling action, as the characters evade and devise a method to announce the discovery of nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles to the rest of the world - all while United Nations' delegates bicker endlessly.

An executive at BookMasters, Inc., says, "The book is absolutely stunning in the manner in which Mr. Spirko, tells his tale. He is truly a master as an analyst, and it's totally unlike anything else we've ever read in a spy-thriller. It keeps you turning pages and won't let you quit - until the very end. And, what an ending it is! If you crave twisting plots, thrilling spy-action and intriguing characters, then this is the book for you."

Spirko, whose own background includes a stint in the U. S. Air Force and has given his advice to the National Security Council in Washington, D. C., has a degree in journalism and knows first-hand about the newsroom and what it takes to be an intelligence field agent. His knowledge of the trade makes the story real, daunting, and strikingly similar to "The Year of Living Dangerously."

"THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY drips with reality," quips a book reviewer from Olive Grove Publishers. "If books were rated by Siskel & Roeper, it would be given a two-thumbs up."

Not since, Casablanca, do characters as earthy as Rick Waite, or as beautifully mysterious as London Times reporter, Adrienne Waters, or as desperate as PLO operative, Ahmed, bring fresh characters to a story that will be remembered by readers for a long time.

The novel is a mass market paperback produced by Olive Grove Publishers, and can be purchased at area bookstores through Ingram Book Group, Green Leaf Distribution, and Baker and Taylor, priced at $14.99, ISBN 0-9752508-0-9. THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY can also be ordered on the web at www.gazellebookservices.co.uk in Lancaster, www.atlasbooks.com, or email orders from: order@bookmasters.com, or from Barnes & Nobles, Border's, Dalton's, efollett.com & Follett bookstores at colleges and universities, WaldenBooks, Amazon.com, Walmart.com, Target.com and other popular retail bookstores. Or, readers and store managers can call 1-800-BOOKLOG, or 800-247-6553 direct, to order.

For readers who want to know what was really going on in the Middle East prior to the Persian Gulf War, Sept. 11th, and Iraq War, THE PALESTINE CONSPIRACY, is a must read.
October 20, 2008 2:37 AM

Islam In Action: China's Islamic Crackdown has Begun

Islam In Action: China's Islamic Crackdown has Begun


It's about time we see someone standing up to the bullies of this world. Good on China and Italy for having the guts to do what our own pollies are too afraid to do. Ban muslim immigration, and if they want to go over to their terrorist friends, then make them get a one-way ticket. I would like to see our government put a stop to the building of more mosques and madrasses here, and also to ban the hijab, especially in any place of business...CCTV cameras cannot identify anyone with a covered head...this is why bikies must remove their helmets before entering most buildings, especially banks.

Islam In Action: China's Islamic Crackdown has Begun

Islam In Action: China's Islamic Crackdown has Begun

Well, wonders will never cease. China is looking good in my eyes now, even if they do have a way to go before people have a free choice, but it is worth it if it means that all people, are treated equally, and if muslims are getting what they so much like to give.

An excellent article, as usual. And the comments to the article, well I agree with them all.

Psalm 23

This is one of the Psalms I grew up with.

A Psalm of David.
The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me;
your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
Surely goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.

Psalm 23:1-6, NIV


Reading through the newsletter from CBN.com in the section of Spiritual Life a guest columnist Dena Dyer tells a story of reading through her magazine USA Today.

She goes on to say, " As I sat on the couch, I opened the USA Today. Inside the front section was an article detailing the ways to prepare for all sorts of terrorist attacks. As I read, visions of duct tape and plastic sheeting danced in my head, and the fact that I live a mere twenty miles from a nuclear power plant crossed my mind more than once. Then I tried to go to bed. Right. (What was I thinking?!)But after I crawled in the covers, with my mind swirling and my heart racing, I looked up my daily reading in a devotional book. As God's providence would have it, the selection was Psalm 23. And as I read, I realized the words were timeless. They comforted me, and I began to think of ways that they might apply to our current situation in America. Here's what I recorded that night in my journal:


The Lord is my shepherd— In the midst of the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, and the spiritual warfare in my soul.
I shall not want— with him as my Savior and provider, I'm perfectly content. While others strive for and worry about
a bigger house, a newer car, designer clothes and jewels, I will rest in my calling and purpose— knowing God and making him known in this hurting, harried world.
He leads me beside still waters— Cool, clear streams of peace in the midst of orange alerts, space shuttle disasters, stock market fluctuations, and baggage inspections.
When emotional baggage threatens my sanity, he renews my mind.
When grief and despair descend, he heals my heart.
When doubts and fears assail my tranquility, he restores my soul.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death— filled with threats of biological and chemical warfare,
nuclear bombs and ghosts of past regrets—I will fear no evil.
Not AIDS, or smallpox, not child abductors or doomsayers. Thou art with me—even when I feel alone in a crowd.
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me—especially when I read the paper or watch the news.
(Why do I read or watch? I know the ending!)
Thou anointest my head with oil—the oil of gladness and peace, with a calling to be light and joy in a dark, fear-filled world.
Help me to be a peace-full, grace-full person, Lord, in the midst of a chaotic world.
Truly, my cup runneth over. You have blessed me so much!
I have friends and family who love me, a warm bed, freedom, grace, (more than) enough food, and a fulfilling purpose.
Surely goodness and mercy—your grace, love, forgiveness and compassion— shall follow me all the days of my life.
Every second, every minute, you are before and behind me, with your arms of love outstretched.
And one day—when all wars and pain, terror and shame will come to an end . . . (Come quickly, Lord Jesus!)
I will dwell in the house of the Lord, your glorious kingdom, where you've prepared an eternal home for me.


It is very easy to understand how we can apply the 23rd Psalm to life today, either version. And I believe not exclusively to the United States. We in the West have drugs, and terrorism to deal with on a daily basis as do other places around the world. There are some people who say we are in 'THE LAST DAYS' as is in Revelations. There certainly are more floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, famine, disease, war, terrorism, global warming...(if one believes in it)...false prophets...(seemingly coming out of the woodwork)many so called new religions / dogmas / doctrines...call them what you will. Just have a look at what is happening in Israel...now this is a story that has been prophesied for many a year....thousands in fact. New world orders, some very charismatic person that will fool many people for a few years then show his true colours...gees, I wonder to whom that refers to. As for President Bush being called the great satan, well no matter what he is, he is nowhere near as bad as what will happen if the obaminator gets into the White House.
Speaking of... In the November issue of Reader's Digest, pages 56 - 65, there are results from some huge GLOBAL survey, some 17,000 people, that says obama would win hands down if people the world over could vote in the coming election. However, voters in the United States aren't so sure. An interesting article, but this Aussie is hoping with all her heart that obama does NOT get elected President of the United States of America.
But then again, who can argue with what has been foretold? Events must take place as is written.


God's guidance is even more important than common sense . . . I can declare that the deepest darkness is outshone by the light of Jesus. —Corrie Ten Boom

Big bully on the prowl

Ahhh, some people really amuse me these days. From one of my posts...."The Wounding of America" from AIM...I received one comment from some small minded person who obviously does not have the intelligence to leave a comment worthy of note on the article, which goes to show how few brain cells this maggot (dirtyfilthy.net)has.

He leaves this insult / maybe even a threat of sorts instead, instead of something, anything, worthy of discussion.

Monday, 20 October 2008 8:37:33 PM His/her message is....and I quote,
... "harden the fuck up, I've beaten up tougher preschooler than you" ....dirtyfilthy.net

What a laugh. Big toughy admits - in a sense - that he goes around beating up pre-schoolers.Watch out world, big bully on the prowl.

Shrine proposal for Bali bombers

On another topic, I read in the AGE newspaper...Monday, October 20 2008. A report from Jakarta, by Tom Allard.

Now Tom reports that; "the families of the Bali bombers are fielding multiple requests from Indonesian islamists who want to bury their bodies together, including one from a prominent supporter who wants to create a jihadi cemetary for the men and 'other holy warriors'."


An businessman & activist in Indonesia's radical islamist movement, Cecep Hermawan,(also a local advisor to the muslim defence lawyers team, which acts for the Bali bombers and other militant muslims before the judicial system) has offered a hectare of land in the city of Cianjur (West Java)to the Bali bombers. This proposal has been discussed with the Bali bombers on 'his regular visits to death row'. Hermawan said he wanted to create a site where "pilgrims" came to pay their respects to "those who fought for the existence of islamic sharia, those that paid with their life". The murderous bombers said it was up to Hermawan, and the families are all ok with it, except for the distance the families of amrozi and mukhlas would have to travel (they live in East Java). The family of the other scumbag, samudra live quite close to the land.

The bombers' lawyer Mr. Achmad Cholid has confirmed this adding that "he was one of about 5 people from Java to fund a joint burial plot for the 3", scumbags.. However, the bombers and their families would wait until they knew the date of execution before making a decision on "which offer" they would accept.

"The announcement for the date of execution is repeatedly being delayed due to political reasons", says a spokesman for the Indonesian Attorney-General, Mr. Supandji.

Now here is the interesting bit of all this....."The 3 Bali bombers have warned of a violent backlash if they are put to death". Now, I thought they were bragging about how much they were looking forward to their 70 odd virgins and numerous young boys in paradise, you know, coz of them being martyrs and all. Then why have they used up all of their appeals and using one delay after another....Did they get to choose, after all, their method of execution as they wanted?

Gee, I wonder what their problem is about going to their moon god allah? And why would their cronies not look forward to them being martyred, after all, it was all in the name of allah-snackbar, wasn't it?

The article goes on to say that; "a clear majority of Indonesians have NO SYMPATHY" for these gutless wonders. and a "significant fringe regards them as slighty misguided heroes".

I could think of a few names and it certainly aint heroes...

These same people are "buying into the theory that there was an elaborate conspiracy that the 202 murders at the Sari Club and Paddy's Bar were committed by CIA". Further more they believe that it was 'a U.S. micro-nuclear device that destroyed the Sari Club".

Gee I guess the CIA have been really busy...what with the Twin Towers and Bali etc....Now if it was the CIA, then why are these 3 scumbags on death row, after they admitted their part in the bombings and saying how proud they were etc?????

These dumb islamists just don't know which way their arses are pointing half the time....maybe they are having withdrawal symptoms from sniffing the arseholes that bend in front of them at their prayer gatherings. But no doubt there would be plenty to sniff at in their present accomodations.

Sharia Banking

I have been a bit puzzled the last day or so. I read in some- (can't remember)- tabloid/newspaper an article for a non-muslim sprouting her good news of sharia banking. I can't remember which paper it was because at times I have a slight problem retaining new info in my memory, unless I deal with it at that moment, or can repeat the process a couple of times, so please forgive me for not being able to cite any quotes, provide a link or the name of the paper or name of person.

I was quite alarmed at how rosy a picture she painted. Even though she was not earning interest on her money, she didn't care as long as her money was not invested in certain ventures like tobacco, alcohol, gambling, inhumane treatment of animals etc. She did however say that if she had a large amount of money then she would be tempted to put it into a bank that did pay interest....a bit hipocritical me thinks....either she wants to make sure her money is used for her stated purposes or not. People with lots of money sometimes will lose their morals!
I was aghast at the animals bit because the treatment of animals in the middle east is abhorrent. Especially the live export trade of sheep and cattle.
This young lady was surprised at the fact she could open an account at a sharia bank....you know, on account she is not a muslim(a).
I believe even though there is no interest paid, or taken on loans etc, that there is a once off fee of sorts, well they have to make profit somehow....
Now I just bet the banking execs are not about to tell where ALL of their investments will be, especially into training camps for more young up and coming jihadis.

My biggest fear here is that with this type of advertising then there will be a lot of people fooled into the same ideology of having their money invested into what they think is all above board businesses. Especially the lefties & greenies and all dems & labourites and all those who think that muslims really do want to be our friends, and people like me are just bigots. With all this talk about interfaith dialogue and multicultural love-ins etc. blah blah.
To me this is just one more kind of stealth jihad, tagiyyah, call it what you will. When they get more non-muslims putting their money into their banks and taking loans for houses etc, then the crunch will come. Miss just one payment and you are liable to lose a hand, after all, reneging on a loan is a form of theft.